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fbnut wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:43 pm
Bad Snap wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:52 pm Why does this matter. Ironton has always had more D1 talent than Burg. Burg wins with a program. Ironton wins with talent. Most of the time they are good games. So Ironton should win.
Good take
Ironton recruits talent because they have to in order to be successful. Burg has built a program to make up for not having D1 kids in order to be successful. In the end burgs way is more sustainable long term
That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭


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fbnut wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:43 pm
Bad Snap wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:52 pm Why does this matter. Ironton has always had more D1 talent than Burg. Burg wins with a program. Ironton wins with talent. Most of the time they are good games. So Ironton should win.
Good take
Ironton recruits talent because they have to in order to be successful. Burg has built a program to make up for not having D1 kids in order to be successful. In the end burgs way is more sustainable long term
Boy they sure have sustained Ironton & Prep the last couple seasons. lol


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Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm
fbnut wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:43 pm
Bad Snap wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:52 pm Why does this matter. Ironton has always had more D1 talent than Burg. Burg wins with a program. Ironton wins with talent. Most of the time they are good games. So Ironton should win.
Good take
Ironton recruits talent because they have to in order to be successful. Burg has built a program to make up for not having D1 kids in order to be successful. In the end burgs way is more sustainable long term
That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.


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RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm
fbnut wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:43 pm

Good take
Ironton recruits talent because they have to in order to be successful. Burg has built a program to make up for not having D1 kids in order to be successful. In the end burgs way is more sustainable long term
That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
Ouch lol. You put Woodward at Ironton the last 5 years and he has at least 2 State titles!


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SiderSammy wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:44 pm
RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm

That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
Ouch lol. You put Woodward at Ironton the last 5 years and he has at least 2 State titles!
absolutely


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Burg still has track, baseball, and softball at the regional levels. After that, we will be looking at another solid Burg year. Will be really good offensively, hearing good things about filling the losses at defense.


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wobycat wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 1:37 pm Burg still has track, baseball, and softball at the regional levels. After that, we will be looking at another solid Burg year. Will be really good offensively, hearing good things about filling the losses at defense.
It will be interesting to see how the offense runs this year. Good size line and have 2-3 solid backs. I know they lost a lot on defense. Especially def line. They will have some holes to fill but Burg usually does pretty good job of plugging players in to fill positions.


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RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm
fbnut wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:43 pm

Good take
Ironton recruits talent because they have to in order to be successful. Burg has built a program to make up for not having D1 kids in order to be successful. In the end burgs way is more sustainable long term
That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
And they won that title with no Kirtland. No marion local. No Coldwater etc. Very easy path.


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gobucs20 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm

That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
And they won that title with no Kirtland. No marion local. No Coldwater etc. Very easy path.
Ironton had the same path over the past two years. How did that work out for them?


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gobucs20 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 pm

That sustainability must be why burg has only made it outta the region something like 3 times in the last 30 years or so. 😭
And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
And they won that title with no Kirtland. No marion local. No Coldwater etc. Very easy path.
BURG is 2 -0 in state title games. What is the record in those games for the mid West allstars?


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RBH23 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 6:09 pm
gobucs20 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm

And a state title in 2017. You keep forgetting that, although that’s understandable. IHS hasn’t won a title for so long, you probably are unaware that such a thing exists.
And they won that title with no Kirtland. No marion local. No Coldwater etc. Very easy path.
Ironton had the same path over the past two years. How did that work out for them?
😂


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Any news, opinions, predictions, etc… on 2024 Wheelersburg Pirates? Just looking to talk 2024 Wheelersburg football. Don’t care about transfers, Ironton(utmost respect for them, just wrong thread), past state championships, number of regional appearances in the last 50 years, or the other typical arguments🙄

2024 Wheelersburg Football…


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TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 5:53 pm Any news, opinions, predictions, etc… on 2024 Wheelersburg Pirates? Just looking to talk 2024 Wheelersburg football. Don’t care about transfers, Ironton(utmost respect for them, just wrong thread), past state championships, number of regional appearances in the last 50 years, or the other typical arguments🙄

2024 Wheelersburg Football…
Line is going to be massive. They will look like college kids out there. Hopefully they can work hard and be effective but they will be huge.

Skilled kids are really good.

Their biggest concern in my opinion will be inside linebackers. Not sure who will play there. Other than that, I like the other positions.


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wobycat wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:25 pm
TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 5:53 pm Any news, opinions, predictions, etc… on 2024 Wheelersburg Pirates? Just looking to talk 2024 Wheelersburg football. Don’t care about transfers, Ironton(utmost respect for them, just wrong thread), past state championships, number of regional appearances in the last 50 years, or the other typical arguments🙄

2024 Wheelersburg Football…
Line is going to be massive. They will look like college kids out there. Hopefully they can work hard and be effective but they will be huge.

Skilled kids are really good.

Their biggest concern in my opinion will be inside linebackers. Not sure who will play there. Other than that, I like the other positions.
Ok. They definitely have a lot of replace on defense-Risner, Willoughby, Maxie, Darling, Salyers, Warren, Lattimore, Estep were all really solid players. If I left anyone out my apologies.They will be missed for sure.
They have a lot of players coming back that got some playing time on defense-Willis, Mowery, Brown, and Evans. I’m expecting good things from players like Emnett, Stanley and the sophomore Hall.
Offense they have some tough runners and some speed. Gonna depend on how improved the Qb is, how the line holds up, and of course-playcalling


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TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:36 pm
wobycat wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:25 pm
TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 5:53 pm Any news, opinions, predictions, etc… on 2024 Wheelersburg Pirates? Just looking to talk 2024 Wheelersburg football. Don’t care about transfers, Ironton(utmost respect for them, just wrong thread), past state championships, number of regional appearances in the last 50 years, or the other typical arguments🙄

2024 Wheelersburg Football…
Line is going to be massive. They will look like college kids out there. Hopefully they can work hard and be effective but they will be huge.

Skilled kids are really good.

Their biggest concern in my opinion will be inside linebackers. Not sure who will play there. Other than that, I like the other positions.
Ok. They definitely have a lot of replace on defense-Risner, Willoughby, Maxie, Darling, Salyers, Warren, Lattimore, Estep were all really solid players. If I left anyone out my apologies.They will be missed for sure.
They have a lot of players coming back that got some playing time on defense-Willis, Mowery, Brown, and Evans. I’m expecting good things from players like Emnett, Stanley and the sophomore Hall.
Offense they have some tough runners and some speed. Gonna depend on how improved the Qb is, how the line holds up, and of course-playcalling
May on d line was pretty good and Watkins was in on corner quite a bit too. They all definitely played very solid.

But I think the inside linebackers will be the key this year. I think they can replace everyone else with another solid group.


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TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:36 pm
wobycat wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:25 pm
TomUnessa wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 5:53 pm Any news, opinions, predictions, etc… on 2024 Wheelersburg Pirates? Just looking to talk 2024 Wheelersburg football. Don’t care about transfers, Ironton(utmost respect for them, just wrong thread), past state championships, number of regional appearances in the last 50 years, or the other typical arguments🙄

2024 Wheelersburg Football…
Line is going to be massive. They will look like college kids out there. Hopefully they can work hard and be effective but they will be huge.

Skilled kids are really good.

Their biggest concern in my opinion will be inside linebackers. Not sure who will play there. Other than that, I like the other positions.
Ok. They definitely have a lot of replace on defense-Risner, Willoughby, Maxie, Darling, Salyers, Warren, Lattimore, Estep were all really solid players. If I left anyone out my apologies.They will be missed for sure.
They have a lot of players coming back that got some playing time on defense-Willis, Mowery, Brown, and Evans. I’m expecting good things from players like Emnett, Stanley and the sophomore Hall.
Offense they have some tough runners and some speed. Gonna depend on how improved the Qb is, how the line holds up, and of course-playcalling
Heard the coaches believe ‘24 team will be better than last year’s team based on what Woby has covered.

This team should go 8-2 with a couple playoff wins. Anything less than that would be a disappointment.

I’m curious to see if the play-calling improves because that’s been a problem for a number of years now. Especially in the red zone where Burg is a turnover machine; would love to know how we stack up to other teams. That said, we need to commit to the run and not try to air it out against the likes of IHS and HP. Won’t beat them slinging the ball all over the field.


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