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MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm
beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:23 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:16 pm If you get beat by all the good teams you play but you win against the bad ones does that make you good?
Question. Have you seen them play? If not, your opinion means nothing. Also, Fort Frye wins this game. Watched Wellston’s highlights and they are not better than Fort Frye, at least to me. FF is too well coached to get beat by the pass again.
Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye

It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.


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EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm
beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:23 pm
Question. Have you seen them play? If not, your opinion means nothing. Also, Fort Frye wins this game. Watched Wellston’s highlights and they are not better than Fort Frye, at least to me. FF is too well coached to get beat by the pass again.
Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye

It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week


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Re: WK 5: Fort Frye (4-0) @ Wellston (3-1)

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EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:56 pm
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bigblue52 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:44 pm

The game Warren played against your beloved Chieftains the final score was 28-14. Might as well have been 49-14. Warren is clearly better than Logan. Plain and simple.
Like I said warren has only played one good team. Yes they beat Logan and right now a lot of bad teams have beat Logan. Warren won something like their 6th game all time against the Chiefs. You have a string of one game.



So that means they are not a good team?????
figure that out by yourself?


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Re: WK 5: Fort Frye (4-0) @ Wellston (3-1)

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MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm

Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye

It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week

Fort Frye always does go look at the Cadets by season.


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MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm

Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye

It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week
you seem to have something against warren. anytime something is said about them you have something.


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Warriors321 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:29 am
MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm


It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week
you seem to have something against warren. anytime something is said about them you have something.
Don't take it to seriously. In the last five years, I've noticed that whoever Fort Frye beats is suddenly not very good. According to AP, they're #2 in the state. But the average Southeastern Ohio football fan, we just schedule weak teams we know we can beat. Unless they're playing Canton McKinley every week, they're just beating up weak sisters.

Warren went from 0-10 not long ago to, you're going to have a winning season this year. Some people just don't have the ability to say anything good about progress. I wouldn't worry about them. In 10 years, they'll still be on the message board griping about winning teams, while you're racking up playoff wins. It's all those people know how to do.


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It will be a close game but Wellston wins this one!


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MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm

Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye

It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week
If you think by the end of the year that Warren and Fort Frye will have not gotten better then you just do not watch them week in week out, and judging by your "takes", you do not.


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bigblue52 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:21 am
MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm


It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week
If you think by the end of the year that Warren and Fort Frye will have not gotten better then you just do not watch them week in week out, and judging by your "takes", you do not.
First of all I never said Warren or fort Frye do not get better every week that’s a lie. I said sometimes teams don’t get better and that’s a fact


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Warriors321 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:29 am
MrFirstTake wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:56 pm


It’s week 5. Team you are in preseason or week 2 is not the same team you are in Week 5. Fort Frye had bad 2nd Qt vs Warren on defense. Other than that they played well in that game. Shut Warren out in the 2nd half and ran for over 300 yards. Fort Frye will be just fine in this game.
Sometimes teams dont get better week to week
you seem to have something against warren. anytime something is said about them you have something.
Sorry I’m not impressed with a team that has beat all teams with losing records idk what you want me to say.


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Wellston’s rb was Molihan last year and his brother is the JV qb this year. FF also has a running back named Molihan? I beginning to think we are all related.


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beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:53 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm
beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:23 pm
Question. Have you seen them play? If not, your opinion means nothing. Also, Fort Frye wins this game. Watched Wellston’s highlights and they are not better than Fort Frye, at least to me. FF is too well coached to get beat by the pass again.
Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye
We never came out of base against Waverly and didn’t blitz one time. They’re really good, but it was a bit misleading. As for FF, that game was a toss up. If we don’t turn it over on play one of the second half, it may be a different outcome. Not making excuses, just giving you facts.
Ff turned it over twice, one in their own territory and one inside Warren's 10. That game was not even close to a toss up. 32 minutes to 16 minutes in time of possession, ff had more penalties and turnovers, and still controlled the game. Warren scored on 2 busted coverages and 1 great throw by taylor. Had no running game to speak of and got manhandled in the 2nd half. Think warren ran maybe 11 plays in the 2nd half.


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Ff3233 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:43 am
beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:53 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:26 pm

Definitely saw them in the scrimmage vs waverly and vs fort frye
We never came out of base against Waverly and didn’t blitz one time. They’re really good, but it was a bit misleading. As for FF, that game was a toss up. If we don’t turn it over on play one of the second half, it may be a different outcome. Not making excuses, just giving you facts.
Ff turned it over twice, one in their own territory and one inside Warren's 10. That game was not even close to a toss up. 32 minutes to 16 minutes in time of possession, ff had more penalties and turnovers, and still controlled the game. Warren scored on 2 busted coverages and 1 great throw by taylor. Had no running game to speak of and got manhandled in the 2nd half. Think warren ran maybe 11 plays in the 2nd half.
Fort Frye didn’t have more penalties. Turnovers were 2-1. You are right that Warren’s offense was shut down in the second half and were largely kept off the field. Not sure about manhandled though? Warren missed some passes and it led to a couple short possessions.

Fort Frye’s offense actually moved the ball more in the 1st half than they did the 2nd half, but converting some key 3rd downs kept the clock moving. They had three 2nd half possessions that ended in a fumble, a TD (the winning margin), and a punt. Then they ran out the last 0:56.

Other than the playoff loss last year, when was the last time a FF team blew a 2-touchdown lead like that? Did you think it was over at that?

Considering you’ve acknowledged that Warren scored on three big plays, the bottom line is Warren was one similar play away from tying or going for 2 to win with a minute left in the game. There are about 56 teams in the last 6 years who were nowhere near that situation.

Fort Frye earned the win, but if you are nitpicking who forced what issue to make a difference in the game, Warren had a couple more costly penalties (offensive pass interference), its own momentum killing turnover, and a couple out of place defenders that helped FF on some critical plays. All those things are part of the game that leads to the final score. FF managed one more TD. I’m not sure why it is so important to make it seem like a fluke.


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enigmaax wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Ff3233 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:43 am
beg003 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:53 pm
We never came out of base against Waverly and didn’t blitz one time. They’re really good, but it was a bit misleading. As for FF, that game was a toss up. If we don’t turn it over on play one of the second half, it may be a different outcome. Not making excuses, just giving you facts.
Ff turned it over twice, one in their own territory and one inside Warren's 10. That game was not even close to a toss up. 32 minutes to 16 minutes in time of possession, ff had more penalties and turnovers, and still controlled the game. Warren scored on 2 busted coverages and 1 great throw by taylor. Had no running game to speak of and got manhandled in the 2nd half. Think warren ran maybe 11 plays in the 2nd half.
Fort Frye didn’t have more penalties. Turnovers were 2-1. You are right that Warren’s offense was shut down in the second half and were largely kept off the field. Not sure about manhandled though? Warren missed some passes and it led to a couple short possessions.

Fort Frye’s offense actually moved the ball more in the 1st half than they did the 2nd half, but converting some key 3rd downs kept the clock moving. They had three 2nd half possessions that ended in a fumble, a TD (the winning margin), and a punt. Then they ran out the last 0:56.

Other than the playoff loss last year, when was the last time a FF team blew a 2-touchdown lead like that? Did you think it was over at that?

Considering you’ve acknowledged that Warren scored on three big plays, the bottom line is Warren was one similar play away from tying or going for 2 to win with a minute left in the game. There are about 56 teams in the last 6 years who were nowhere near that situation.

Fort Frye earned the win, but if you are nitpicking who forced what issue to make a difference in the game, Warren had a couple more costly penalties (offensive pass interference), its own momentum killing turnover, and a couple out of place defenders that helped FF on some critical plays. All those things are part of the game that leads to the final score. FF managed one more TD. I’m not sure why it is so important to make it seem like a fluke.

Fort adjusted and Warren had 1 1st down in the 2nd half. That being said Cadets are finally starting to put it together. The young kids that were sophomores early in the year now have experience. I can’t wait to see the final outcome for this team.


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How is FF junior high? Do they have the talent coming to keep the streak alive?


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Bulldog84 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:23 pm How is FF junior high? Do they have the talent coming to keep the streak alive?
Best player broke his arm and is out. They are on their 3rd string qb but they are still solid. Body count is definitely down as compared to year's past. Ff sophomore class is loaded, have 3 freshman that should start varsity next year and have a few good 8th graders. It's definitely been a good run on talent for ff, but we also have over 35 kids showing up in the offseason to lift and the program just keeps building upon itself. The streak will eventually get broken, maybe vs wellston. Have to give credit to coach huck and his staff on down to jr high for building program into what it has become


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Ff3233 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:55 pm
Bulldog84 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:23 pm How is FF junior high? Do they have the talent coming to keep the streak alive?
Best player broke his arm and is out. They are on their 3rd string qb but they are still solid. Body count is definitely down as compared to year's past. Ff sophomore class is loaded, have 3 freshman that should start varsity next year and have a few good 8th graders. It's definitely been a good run on talent for ff, but we also have over 35 kids showing up in the offseason to lift and the program just keeps building upon itself. The streak will eventually get broken, maybe vs wellston. Have to give credit to coach huck and his staff on down to jr high for building program into what it has become

Exactly Coach Huck is getting everyone on board with program success. I knew this year would be special when I heard kids were coming in before school to lift during other sports. Fort will be really good next year 2. They will return 3 lineman 3 backs and and QB1.


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One thing that has helped is the Cadets do not play as many kids both ways as they use to.


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Some bad blood going into this game as Wellston was one of the deciding votes for Fort Frye not getting into the TVC.


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EasternDspy wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:31 pm Some bad blood going into this game as Wellston was one of the deciding votes for Fort Frye not getting into the TVC.
Fort doesn’t belong in TVC


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