Pressing Up 20+

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Re: Pressing Up 20+

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I understand that sometimes hands are tied based on conferences, but blowouts like 100 to 8 (!!) are a scheduling failure by the athletic directors. Those teams don't need to play each other


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danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
But that is what Coach K has taught his Bulldogs. These girls have bought into his system and they are focused on getting to Dayton in March. Everything is pointed to that goal and this is the style that they play. He told the girls there would be haters and to just ignore them


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danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
And it’s obvious there are people on here that are perfectly ok with this.


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SportsGrandDad wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:40 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
But that is what Coach K has taught his Bulldogs. These girls have bought into his system and they are focused on getting to Dayton in March. Everything is pointed to that goal and this is the style that they play. He told the girls there would be haters and to just ignore them
I don’t know this coach. Has he coached prior to Athens? What year is he in as a varsity coach? Thank you


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:44 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
And it’s obvious there are people on here that are perfectly ok with this.
Yeah, I don’t get it at all. I watched some of it and there was no improving for either side in the game. I’m not sure if some folks have seen regional level basketball, but 99% of the time at that level, you have to be able to run an offense at least on occasion. Most high level teams are able to get back on defense and stop the ball on occasion…so, working on that in game would be beneficial.

Or, score 100. Whichever.


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danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:06 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:44 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm

Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
And it’s obvious there are people on here that are perfectly ok with this.
Yeah, I don’t get it at all. I watched some of it and there was no improving for either side in the game. I’m not sure if some folks have seen regional level basketball, but 99% of the time at that level, you have to be able to run an offense at least on occasion. Most high level teams are able to get back on defense and stop the ball on occasion…so, working on that in game would be beneficial.

Or, score 100. Whichever.
Maybe with 14 divisions now no one will be very good until the regional finals


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:16 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:06 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:44 pm

And it’s obvious there are people on here that are perfectly ok with this.
Yeah, I don’t get it at all. I watched some of it and there was no improving for either side in the game. I’m not sure if some folks have seen regional level basketball, but 99% of the time at that level, you have to be able to run an offense at least on occasion. Most high level teams are able to get back on defense and stop the ball on occasion…so, working on that in game would be beneficial.

Or, score 100. Whichever.
Maybe with 14 divisions now no one will be very good until the regional finals
True. But, after losing by 15 to a team without their best player in a grind it out type of game in last year’s Round of 64, you’d think a team would want to work on that style of play still.


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danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:27 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:16 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:06 pm

Yeah, I don’t get it at all. I watched some of it and there was no improving for either side in the game. I’m not sure if some folks have seen regional level basketball, but 99% of the time at that level, you have to be able to run an offense at least on occasion. Most high level teams are able to get back on defense and stop the ball on occasion…so, working on that in game would be beneficial.

Or, score 100. Whichever.
Maybe with 14 divisions now no one will be very good until the regional finals
True. But, after losing by 15 to a team without their best player in a grind it out type of game in last year’s Round of 64, you’d think a team would want to work on that style of play still.
Maybe they are 30 points better than last year


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SportsGrandDad wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:40 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:13 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Run some offense in the halfcourt to take up some time instead of just one quick outlet and a layup each trip like from what I saw on the hudl film.

Also, maybe don’t try to score as time runs out, because they would’ve scored 102 if they had an extra half second.
But that is what Coach K has taught his Bulldogs. These girls have bought into his system and they are focused on getting to Dayton in March. Everything is pointed to that goal and this is the style that they play. He told the girls there would be haters and to just ignore them
If they want to get to Dayton then they need to beef up the schedule. Margin of victory doesn't count in the current OHSAA tournament.


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trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Wow! He and Waterford coach must have attended the same school of coaching. A few years back he ran the score up on a team like that then subbed in the King girl (who ended up playing D1 ball) to score the 99th and 100th point. And he was famous for pressing with a 40+ lead.

Nothing good comes out of a score in the 100's. I was always told to remember that no matter what color jersey the kids are wearing they are someone's kid and treat them with respect. And just a few short years Athens was getting beat badly too. Short memories :cry:

Is Meig's coach still the board member's brother that has been there a few years?


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Fletchlives wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:59 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Wow! He and Waterford coach must have attended the same school of coaching. A few years back he ran the score up on a team like that then subbed in the King girl (who ended up playing D1 ball) to score the 99th and 100th point. And he was famous for pressing with a 40+ lead.

Nothing good comes out of a score in the 100's. I was always told to remember that no matter what color jersey the kids are wearing they are someone's kid and treat them with respect. And just a few short years Athens was getting beat badly too. Short memories :cry:

Is Meig's coach still the board member's brother that has been there a few years?
yes he his and the assistant is her husband. they have ruined the program. Have to plead girls to come out to have enough for the team


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Fletchlives wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:59 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Wow! He and Waterford coach must have attended the same school of coaching. A few years back he ran the score up on a team like that then subbed in the King girl (who ended up playing D1 ball) to score the 99th and 100th point. And he was famous for pressing with a 40+ lead.

Nothing good comes out of a score in the 100's. I was always told to remember that no matter what color jersey the kids are wearing they are someone's kid and treat them with respect. And just a few short years Athens was getting beat badly too. Short memories :cry:

Is Meig's coach still the board member's brother that has been there a few years?
Running the score up like that is ridiculous. Your comment about Waterford ‘s coach running up the score- that must’ve been a while ago because if you look at Waterford the last 3-4 years- their margin of victories aren’t huge. Watched them play Trimble last week. Close rotated in his younger players (JV) with a starter to run plays. They were running plays through 3 or 4 times. This is what a good coach does. He hasn’t pressed much this year - but he does press with his younger players to get them experience.
I’m not a Close fan but the guy doesn’t run the score up like that. I’m pretty sure their tall girl hasn’t played a full game in these last few games. He’s looking forward and making sure his team is ready for big games.

As For meigs- they had some good players the past few years. Not sure what is happening there. Lisle girl was 1000 point scorer. And they have had some good guards.


Athens does visit Waterford over the holidays. Should be a good game.


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SEOsportchamp23 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:09 pm
Fletchlives wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:59 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Wow! He and Waterford coach must have attended the same school of coaching. A few years back he ran the score up on a team like that then subbed in the King girl (who ended up playing D1 ball) to score the 99th and 100th point. And he was famous for pressing with a 40+ lead.

Nothing good comes out of a score in the 100's. I was always told to remember that no matter what color jersey the kids are wearing they are someone's kid and treat them with respect. And just a few short years Athens was getting beat badly too. Short memories :cry:

Is Meig's coach still the board member's brother that has been there a few years?
Running the score up like that is ridiculous. Your comment about Waterford ‘s coach running up the score- that must’ve been a while ago because if you look at Waterford the last 3-4 years- their margin of victories aren’t huge. Watched them play Trimble last week. Close rotated in his younger players (JV) with a starter to run plays. They were running plays through 3 or 4 times. This is what a good coach does. He hasn’t pressed much this year - but he does press with his younger players to get them experience.
I’m not a Close fan but the guy doesn’t run the score up like that. I’m pretty sure their tall girl hasn’t played a full game in these last few games. He’s looking forward and making sure his team is ready for big games.

As For meigs- they had some good players the past few years. Not sure what is happening there. Lisle girl was 1000 point scorer. And they have had some good guards.


Athens does visit Waterford over the holidays. Should be a good game.
I’ve only seen them play maybe 10x in about the last decade snd I’ve never seen them lose and I’ve never seen him run up the score….and he had several chances. His pressing was strategic and worked but most of what I’ve witnessed (all tournament games)…they set up in the 1/2 court and were stellar on defense.

He’s a state champion coach….not many on here can say that. He’s proven he knows what it takes and how to get it there. He’s arguably the last person that should be mentioned in this thread.


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Fletchlives wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:59 pm
trampoline wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:09 pm I think it varies according to the situation. what makes people upset is when some idiot a$$hole like the Athens girls coach goes out and beats Meigs last night 100 to 8. Meigs is just trying to save their program and then this scumbag shows up and beats them by 100. Its people like this who shouldnt be involved in coaching.
Wow! He and Waterford coach must have attended the same school of coaching. A few years back he ran the score up on a team like that then subbed in the King girl (who ended up playing D1 ball) to score the 99th and 100th point. And he was famous for pressing with a 40+ lead.

Nothing good comes out of a score in the 100's. I was always told to remember that no matter what color jersey the kids are wearing they are someone's kid and treat them with respect. And just a few short years Athens was getting beat badly too. Short memories :cry:

Is Meig's coach still the board member's brother that has been there a few years?
Yes, he beat a team by 90+ over 15 years ago, you are going back over 15 years to chastize a 2x State Champion coach, who had zero to do with this post. The King girl graduated in 2010!! I bet you didn't know she sat out a full years worth of quarters in her career (80+ quarters). She could have scored 2500 points if he lets her play full games. He messed up, learned from the mistake and hasn't ran the score up like that since.


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Look- there was zero "pressing" whatsoever in the entire 4Q and it was also a 2 point game at halftime. The only reason this would ever come up is because it was GIRLS basketball. Have you seen some of the blowout scores in boys games this season- even with a running clock? Final score was 56-33 that night. That is no where near a "running up the score," situation. Get over it. TBH it is pretty pathetic this was ever posted, ED OTT!


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Neb Hcuof ;) wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm Look- there was zero "pressing" whatsoever in the entire 4Q and it was also a 2 point game at halftime. The only reason this would ever come up is because it was GIRLS basketball. Have you seen some of the blowout scores in boys games this season- even with a running clock? Final score was 56-33 that night. That is no where near a "running up the score," situation. Get over it. TBH it is pretty pathetic this was ever posted, ED OTT!
Ah, just full court pressure on their bottom 5 girls with your starters. A minute left and the referee asking the coach what the heck she’s doing? That always happens.


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efarns wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:24 am Would it be for conditioning purposes? Playing the press at game intensity for the entire game isn't something you can necessarily simulate in practice.
Good coaches can get "game intensity" in practice if that's what they want and need.


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Neb Hcuof ;) wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm Look- there was zero "pressing" whatsoever in the entire 4Q and it was also a 2 point game at halftime. The only reason this would ever come up is because it was GIRLS basketball. Have you seen some of the blowout scores in boys games this season- even with a running clock? Final score was 56-33 that night. That is no where near a "running up the score," situation. Get over it. TBH it is pretty pathetic this was ever posted, ED OTT!
The reason this "came up" was the full court man to man applied once one team emptied the bench to nothing but JV players. Only one thing was pathetic that night.


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