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OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:09 am
by radiodavel
OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisions https://statelinesportsnetwork.net/2023 ... l-division

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:48 am
by trojandave
I'm in favor of adding a division or two because the real discrepancy lies in D1.......as the article stated, there are D1 schools that have almost 900-1000 boys less than the large D1 schools. That's simply not fair.

Even if the OHSAA adds 1 division, with there being approximately 800 HS total in Ohio, those 5 divisions if divided equally would have about 160 schools in each division. If the OHSAA adds 2 divisions, those 6 divisions if divided equally would have about 150 schools. It still would be really hard to make the Final 4 and win the state, and for some schools even winning a sectional or district would still be a big deal.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:21 pm
by SWJeeps22
I was told coaches voted for this at district meetings..so I am not sure about "behind closed doors". I think this is a good thing anyway, there's just too much a gap in all divisions between the high end enrollment and low end, that goes from D1 to D4. 6 Would be the perfect combination, no more playing schools with close to 100 male/female enrollment differences.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:57 am
by PikeCo23
There is not a huge gap with all divisions, like there is for D 1. D 1 is a joke how they divide it up. Football got it right and now basketball needs to follow the same path.

Differences in enrollment from the divisions top and bottom number teams:

Division 1- Mason has 1300 boys and Bedford has 346. Hardly fair...Difference of 954. Absolute Joke.

Division 2- Bowling Green 344 and Meigs 193. Difference of 151.

Division 3- Fairless 191 and Hicksville 121. Difference of only 70!!

Division 4- Columbia 120 and St. Joe Central 16. Difference of 104.

Not even close to the same differences.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:24 am
by Snowman
PikeCo23 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:57 am There is not a huge gap with all divisions, like there is for D 1. D 1 is a joke how they divide it up. Football got it right and now basketball needs to follow the same path.

Differences in enrollment from the divisions top and bottom number teams:

Division 1- Mason has 1300 boys and Bedford has 346. Hardly fair...Difference of 954. Absolute Joke.

Division 2- Bowling Green 344 and Meigs 193. Difference of 151.

Division 3- Fairless 191 and Hicksville 121. Difference of only 70!!

Division 4- Columbia 120 and St. Joe Central 16. Difference of 104.

Not even close to the same differences.
Well put. Although I'd argue that having 16 is as big of a disadvantage against 120 as 346 is to 1,300. If you've got 30 boys in the school and maybe 15 play basketball, I'm guessing some of those kids are just playing to have something to do and aren't exactly in it to excel at basketball. Plus, one injury at a school with low numbers has a much bigger effect than an injury at a school that can at least field a full JV team.

But yeah I totally agree. I don't think the competitive difference of chopping up the current D3 into multiple slices will really matter much. It should impact the largest and smallest teams the most.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:56 pm
by muskiefan11
As a fan of a Larger D2 school I think that we would be hurt more than anyone else by this and the small D1’s benefit the most. Say they add a division, the bottom tier of D1 and top tier of D2 probably gets meshed. I will be interested to see how this plays out, I think overall it could be a good thing competitively.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:06 pm
by PikeCo23
It did the same for football at one point too, though. That small change for a big D2 school is better than asking a school with 340 boys to play schools that have 1300. They basically are just giving the middle finger to the smallest D1 schools and saying good luck!

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:23 am
by trampoline
If they want to fix high school basketball then create a separate division for private schools. Then they can cheat each other.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:15 am
by 84Dragon
Seperate public from private , that would immediately make it somewhat even.

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:50 pm
by IVCHAWKS
I'm all for 6 divisions,as long as they get Richmond Hts all star team out of D4

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:18 pm
by GoBucks1047
I think creating 3 new divisions is too much, but I think 1 or 2 is acceptable. This is what I think it could be:

5 Divisions:
D1 - 96 Teams
D2-D5 - 176 Teams each

6 Divisions
D1 - 80 Teams
D2-D6 - 144 Teams each

Currently
D1-D4 - 200 Teams each

Re: OHSAA: Behind Closed Doors..Adding Basketball Divisiosn

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:43 am
by Ed Ott
Dumb. Everything is so watered-down. Let’s have 75% more games at the state level, wonder who that benefits?

Let’s just determine how many participating schools in OHSAA basketball and divide by 4 and that’s how many divisions we should have and everyone gets to make it to state. Everyone will be so happy. Won’t be enough police and sheriff cruisers to bring every team back through town. The banner companies will be ridiculously backed up. The post season honors lists will be lengthy.

Football can go to 10 divisions