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Best Defenses

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:45 pm
by Ironman92
Of teams you have seen....lost some of the best defenses (on ball, help side, causing turnovers, transition defense)

Watching Jackson I’ve seen some really good ones. I know a lot is matchups but here are the tops I’ve seen

1. Chillicothe

2. Unioto

3. North Adams
4. Wheelersburg

5. Miami Trace (their size caused issues)

Others I’ve seen (McClain, Hillsboro, Washington)

List yours (teams you’ve seen)

I didn’t rank my own team which I’ve watched 8x. Most nights I’d put them 2nd but have had a few 3rd and 4th best showings. Very good overall this season.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:50 pm
by mlittle
Ironman92 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:45 pm Of teams you have seen....lost some of the best defenses (on ball, help side, causing turnovers, transition defense)

Watching Jackson I’ve seen some really good ones. I know a lot is matchups but here are the tops I’ve seen

1. Chillicothe

2. Unioto

3. North Adams
4. Wheelersburg

5. Miami Trace (their size caused issues)

Others I’ve seen (McClain, Hillsboro, Washington)

List yours (teams you’ve seen)
MT not so much at least for us. We scored 70 on them

I like 1 and 2. Unioto is only giving up 40 a game and held FU to 9 first half points tonight and ZT to 36 with reigning POY to 7 points. Jackson has a good defense as well great help rotations but I’d have ZT in the top 3

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:54 pm
by Ironman92
mlittle wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:50 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:45 pm Of teams you have seen....lost some of the best defenses (on ball, help side, causing turnovers, transition defense)

Watching Jackson I’ve seen some really good ones. I know a lot is matchups but here are the tops I’ve seen

1. Chillicothe

2. Unioto

3. North Adams
4. Wheelersburg

5. Miami Trace (their size caused issues)

Others I’ve seen (McClain, Hillsboro, Washington)

List yours (teams you’ve seen)
MT not so much at least for us. We scored 70 on them

I like 1 and 2. Unioto is only giving up 40 a game and held FU to 9 first half points tonight and ZT to 36 with reigning POY to 7 points. Jackson has a good defense as well great help rotations but I’d have ZT in the top 3
They weren’t great but they gave us nothing underneath most of the game and with their tough shooting background it was a bad mix even though we pulled away....they were well behind my top 4 but I went ahead and gave a 5th

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:16 pm
by mlittle
I know burg won but didn’t really have the defense to stop Wallis like they thought. Would’ve probably went for 40 if he wasn’t hobbling.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:17 am
by Hoopie74
Peebles started 6'5" ,6'3", 6'3",6'2" and 5'10" lineup last night with 6'6" 6'3" off bench. Althought not elite defense yet they are coming around nicely for coach Arey. Awesome game last night vs North Adams. Peebles 58- North Adams 38.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:13 am
by Raider6309
Probably Unioto

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:45 am
by scott1297
Burgs defense pretty solid.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:48 am
by mlittle
Piketon also has a very disciplined and stingy defense.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:14 pm
by Hoopie74
Eastern Brown is lock down coach Beucler defense. Look out for the Warriors.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:39 pm
by Ironman92
Good start. Pfloyd has seen a lot of teams. Dani as well. Bbjunky?

Need to hear from other areas

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:52 pm
by pfloyd
I92 ... I've seen 28 different teams so far in the 1st 4 weeks of action , my top defensive teams so far would be:

1. Chillicothe
2. Fairfield Union
3. Unioto
4. Chesapeake
5. Jackson
6. Fairland
7. Zane Trace
8. Alexander
9. Adena
10. New Boston
11. Warren
12. Logan Elm

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:58 pm
by Raider6309
And Alexander with Terry

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:13 am
by Tigers12
I don't think the kids at Waverly get enough credit on this site! They have been fairly solid with all the distractions. On the average they are holding teams under 50 points per game.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:57 am
by Ironman92
Tigers12 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:13 am I don't think the kids at Waverly get enough credit on this site! They have been fairly solid with all the distractions. On the average they are holding teams under 50 points per game.
I’ve not seen Waverly and not sure those who have commented on this have either. You obviously have. So Waverly and who else that you have seen?

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:58 am
by wobycat
Tigers12 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:13 am I don't think the kids at Waverly get enough credit on this site! They have been fairly solid with all the distractions. On the average they are holding teams under 50 points per game.
Pfloyd lists are pretty good. I think burgs defense is pretty good considering they are undefeated but Floyd sees more than I do. I’m ok with it.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 am
by pfloyd
wobycat wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:58 am
Tigers12 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:13 am I don't think the kids at Waverly get enough credit on this site! They have been fairly solid with all the distractions. On the average they are holding teams under 50 points per game.
Pfloyd lists are pretty good. I think burgs defense is pretty good considering they are undefeated but Floyd sees more than I do. I’m ok with it.
Wobycat, I only listed teams that I have seen ... Wheelersburg with Miller/Truitt/McCorkle WOULD be excellent I’m sure - I just haven’t seen them yet ... Eastern Brown , Trimble are outstanding defensively as well but I haven’t seen them yet either ... I WILL ! I’m looking at Trimble vs Fed Hock this Friday , the Wheelersburg at Eastern Pike game on the 10th and Eastern Brown playing at the Beasts of the Southeast in Chesapeake on the 11th ... I just thought I92 wanted us to list teams we have seen so far ...

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 am
by Ironman92
pfloyd wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 am
wobycat wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:58 am
Tigers12 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:13 am I don't think the kids at Waverly get enough credit on this site! They have been fairly solid with all the distractions. On the average they are holding teams under 50 points per game.
Pfloyd lists are pretty good. I think burgs defense is pretty good considering they are undefeated but Floyd sees more than I do. I’m ok with it.
Wobycat, I only listed teams that I have seen ... Wheelersburg with Miller/Truitt/McCormick WOULD be excellent I’m sure - I just haven’t seen them yet ... Eastern Brown , Trimble are outstanding defensively as well but I haven’t seen them yet either ... I WILL ! I’m looking at Trimble vs Fed Hock this Friday , the Wheelersburg at Eastern Pike game on the 10th and Eastern Brown playing at the Beasts of the Southeast in Chesapeake on the 11th ... I just thought I92 wanted us to list teams we have seen so far ...
You did exactly as I asked.

Matt Miller for Wheelersburg an excellent defender and overall player

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:38 am
by trojandave
Opponent's FG% and turnovers created are much better indicators of a team's defense. Holding a team under 40 points is not necessarily a mark of great defense, rather it could be a matter of offensive tempo in the game.

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:42 am
by pfloyd
Ironman92 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 am
pfloyd wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 am
wobycat wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:58 am

Pfloyd lists are pretty good. I think burgs defense is pretty good considering they are undefeated but Floyd sees more than I do. I’m ok with it.
Wobycat, I only listed teams that I have seen ... Wheelersburg with Miller/Truitt/McCorkle WOULD be excellent I’m sure - I just haven’t seen them yet ... Eastern Brown , Trimble are outstanding defensively as well but I haven’t seen them yet either ... I WILL ! I’m looking at Trimble vs Fed Hock this Friday , the Wheelersburg at Eastern Pike game on the 10th and Eastern Brown playing at the Beasts of the Southeast in Chesapeake on the 11th ... I just thought I92 wanted us to list teams we have seen so far ...
You did exactly as I asked.

Matt Miller for Wheelersburg an excellent defender and overall player
Miller for the Burg IS an excellent defender - an "aggressive" defender for sure ... I'm sure the rest of Wheelersburg's starters outside of McCormick/Truitt are equally as good / the burg always has athletic players ... I'm really looking forward to seeing Eastern Brown as well - Coach Beucler has ALWAYS had excellent defensive teams - he teaches the fundamentals of the game on both ends of the court ... Coach Beucler has developed a great "system" - right around the 380 win mark proves that one LOL ...

Re: Best Defenses

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:51 am
by Tigers12
I believe PFloyd has watched Waverly beat Warren this season.

Is holding teams to 33% and forcing 14 TO's a game decent?