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Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 pm
by General knowledge
This game is going, just as I assumed it would.John Glenn 56-23 running clock at the convo.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:35 pm
by Noitall
winningaintcheap wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:46 pm
Noitall wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:39 pm This won't be close John Glenn by at least 15
From what I’ve been able to collect from all of JG’s schedule and Box Scores; they are nowhere near the team they have been recently. They are short across the board. Their tallest listed player is 6’4 and seemingly never gets to touch the ball. They aim to force a lot of turnovers and score in volume. Recently, Unioto has been excellent at limiting their opponents to low point totals. Swackhammer and Kennedy are veteran ball handlers and I believe they have the tools to control the tempo and withstand the pressure. I look for this to be a very good, close game. I’ll predict Unioto moves on by a score of 62-57
Could you imagine if they WAS the team they used to being??

Can't compete with the north , better to face it then be disappointed lol

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:37 pm
by bbjunky81
Roger Mink wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:08 am Watched Unioto about 10 times this year. Watched John Glenn once. Unioto 68-60. Fisher will have 18 rebounds. JG guards are two small and Swack will have his way.
Whoops

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:39 pm
by General knowledge
65-29 final

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:55 pm
by bsee12345
So... Unioto got a beat down. The updates said it was hard to watch. Help me understand- Was John Glenn just that much better? Did Unioto just have a bad night? Was Unioto not prepared to play? Any insight on this. Those that had seen both play thought this would be a decent game- I only saw one post say this game would be a blowout.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:00 pm
by General knowledge
John Glenn Pressures the ball the entire game. They are much like Waverly but better. I believe I said Unioto needed to defend the flair screens, doesn’t look like they defended the flair screens since John Glenn made 9-3’s

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:05 pm
by CavalierAlum05
Not sure but Unioto looked way over matched. John Glenn was more athletic, better coached, and an all around better team. All that said I had not seen Jg this year and picked against them. Boy was I wrong
I said if earlier, Unioto had the easiest ride to the regionals I’ve seen!

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:20 pm
by Noitall
Noitall wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:39 pm This won't be close John Glenn by at least 15
This should answer you're question

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:32 pm
by Raider6309
Noitall wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:20 pm
Noitall wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:39 pm This won't be close John Glenn by at least 15
This should answer you're question
You were right

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:51 pm
by Paladin
Not surprised. JG is pretty good. But you'd never know it reading the pre-game hype here.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:00 pm
by winningaintcheap
Unioto got exposed tonight for a couple of reasons.

First and foremost, going 56-0 in the SVC doesn’t really prepare you to play desperate and force you to will yourself to win. So you would need a tough non conference to do that. Well, playing McClain, Miami Trace, and Washington CH every year doesn’t really help the cause either. Unioto was woefully unprepared to not play against, but to be losing to a team who was equally or more talented than they were.
In the game, Unioto was shell shocked. No adjustments. No sense of urgency. No will to win. The defense had no idea how to guard their guards. The offense had no idea how to find openings and exploit them. No matter what Hoops said, it seemed like nobody ever caught on that if they didn’t go now, they’d be done.

My suggestion, play a more humbling schedule. There’s nothing wrong with heading to the districts with 4-5 losses. Just make sure you’re better prepared to play at that level.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:10 pm
by bsee12345
winningaintcheap wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:00 pm Unioto got exposed tonight for a couple of reasons.

First and foremost, going 56-0 in the SVC doesn’t really prepare you to play desperate and force you to will yourself to win. So you would need a tough non conference to do that. Well, playing McClain, Miami Trace, and Washington CH every year doesn’t really help the cause either. Unioto was woefully unprepared to not play against, but to be losing to a team who was equally or more talented than they were.
In the game, Unioto was shell shocked. No adjustments. No sense of urgency. No will to win. The defense had no idea how to guard their guards. The offense had no idea how to find openings and exploit them. No matter what Hoops said, it seemed like nobody ever caught on that if they didn’t go now, they’d be done.

My suggestion, play a more humbling schedule. There’s nothing wrong with heading to the districts with 4-5 losses. Just make sure you’re better prepared to play at that level.
This is what I figured may be the case. Getting to Regionals is a great accomplishment but I agree for Unioto to take the next step (if they want to that) is to upschedule. Not to bring up a dead horse but the SVC will prepare you for Division IV and III basketball tourney it will not make you elite in Division II. I think it time Unioto decide what there athletic hopes are- to be the best in the SVC or be elite in the Southeast District. By what they have done so far it is to be the best in the SVC.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:44 pm
by hbk1999
Another reason for them to go to the FAC

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:48 pm
by winningaintcheap
hbk1999 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:44 pm Another reason for them to go to the FAC
No. I think they’d be better off joining the MSL.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:37 pm
by danicalifornia
Tonight was pretty terrible from the start. JG was quicker than we expected and obviously shot the ball better than we had seen as well. They are a very well coached and talented team. There is a reason why they are in their 5th Regional Final in 7 years. Kudos to #42 for knocking down 4 3's, especially since he hadn't really been a shooter all year for them. Shot with confidence and I'm not sure if any of them touched anything but the bottom of the net.

However, we made plenty of adjustments...just none of them that worked. We weren't a team who could press a team all night (like 2 and 3 years ago), just didn't have the depth for that. Our multiple different pressures were ineffective, which tends to happen against a team with 5 guys on the floor at all times who can handle the ball.

About our schedule: yes it needs an upgrade, we all know that. However, I'm not sure how Miami Trace doesn't get you ready, especially since they were a 1 seed last year. Now, they may be down next year, but they have been a solid team to have every year. McClain, yeah, that's one that needs dropped.

If we leave the SVC, it won't be for the FAC, unless they can prove that they will stay together for more than a couple of years. It would be a good fit, however, Chillicothe has to prove that they can stay in a league for a bit, in my opinion.

How many other D2 schools have won 2 or more District Titles in the past 4 seasons? You say that Unioto isn't an "elite" in the SE District, but only Vinton County has won 2 District Titles in the past 4 years in D2. Our schedule does need bumped up, but it hasn't stopped us before and I'm really not sure who we could've picked up this year that would've got us over that buzzsaw that we ran into tonight.

We are losing 7 amazing young men to graduation. These guys worked their tails off for the entire time that they were apart of the Unioto Basketball program and have taken it to heights that it hadn't reached in an extended period of time before. 2 will move on to play college football, 2 will move on to play college basketball, and 2 will be joining our nation's military. It obviously wasn't how we all wanted it to end, but I'll choose to remember the more positive times.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:26 pm
by Jerry Newman
This is what happens when Unioto plays a school their own size.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:28 pm
by danicalifornia
Jerry Newman wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:26 pm This is what happens when Unioto plays a school their own size.
Like the other 3 tournament games this year where they won. Maybe you should start your annual "Unioto should leave the SVC" thread, since it's about that time :roll:

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:38 pm
by football life
danicalifornia wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:37 pm Tonight was pretty terrible from the start. JG was quicker than we expected and obviously shot the ball better than we had seen as well. They are a very well coached and talented team. There is a reason why they are in their 5th Regional Final in 7 years. Kudos to #42 for knocking down 4 3's, especially since he hadn't really been a shooter all year for them. Shot with confidence and I'm not sure if any of them touched anything but the bottom of the net.

However, we made plenty of adjustments...just none of them that worked. We weren't a team who could press a team all night (like 2 and 3 years ago), just didn't have the depth for that. Our multiple different pressures were ineffective, which tends to happen against a team with 5 guys on the floor at all times who can handle the ball.

About our schedule: yes it needs an upgrade, we all know that. However, I'm not sure how Miami Trace doesn't get you ready, especially since they were a 1 seed last year. Now, they may be down next year, but they have been a solid team to have every year. McClain, yeah, that's one that needs dropped.

If we leave the SVC, it won't be for the FAC, unless they can prove that they will stay together for more than a couple of years. It would be a good fit, however, Chillicothe has to prove that they can stay in a league for a bit, in my opinion.

How many other D2 schools have won 2 or more District Titles in the past 4 seasons? You say that Unioto isn't an "elite" in the SE District, but only Vinton County has won 2 District Titles in the past 4 years in D2. Our schedule does need bumped up, but it hasn't stopped us before and I'm really not sure who we could've picked up this year that would've got us over that buzzsaw that we ran into tonight.

We are losing 7 amazing young men to graduation. These guys worked their tails off for the entire time that they were apart of the Unioto Basketball program and have taken it to heights that it hadn't reached in an extended period of time before. 2 will move on to play college football, 2 will move on to play college basketball, and 2 will be joining our nation's military. It obviously wasn't how we all wanted it to end, but I'll choose to remember the more positive times.
Well said Dani! I don't see anything wrong with their schedule. You played Trace, Chilly, and someone good in the TW tourney along with Fairfield Union. That is no slouches by any means. With that now you are blaming their "REGIONAL SEMI LOSS ON MCLAIN"... Come on!!!! Just enjoy the ride those kids have had! The U has been fortunate to have had a nice mix of upper classman for the last few years. Now is not the time to be "upscheduling" when you are about to have a youth movement that the U hasn't experienced in a few years.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:54 pm
by Jerry Newman
danicalifornia wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:28 pm
Jerry Newman wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:26 pm This is what happens when Unioto plays a school their own size.
Like the other 3 tournament games this year where they won. Maybe you should start your annual "Unioto should leave the SVC" thread, since it's about that time :roll:
Already did. It's on the football forum. Sad thing about Unioto is being twice the size of everyone else in the SVC wasn't enough. They had to go out and get Swackhammer and Hill from other districts.

Re: John Glenn vs Unioto

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:58 pm
by thebarlowbandit
Roger Mink wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:08 am Watched Unioto about 10 times this year. Watched John Glenn once. Unioto 68-60. Fisher will have 18 rebounds. JG guards are two small and Swack will have his way.
Just curious as to how this prognostication worked out for you? You seem to be a great talent evaluator, I’m surprised the Warriors have not snapped you up yet as their lead scout.