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Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:39 pm
by DUNK1
Picket Fence wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:16 pm 1a) Blain Maddox @ Warren HS.
1b) Norm Persin @ SW
2) Howie @ Glouster
I’m sure those other guys are fine coaches but Howie is #1.

1. Howie

3a. Person
3b. Mannix

Jonjon wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:56 am Nathan Speed has to be up there. His accomplishments with his teams speak for themselves.
Who?

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:31 am
by Almost Champions
Wings Teaford was on his way to greatness at Southern

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:37 pm
by Calvin
Almost Champions wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:31 am Wings Teaford was on his way to greatness at Southern
When did he coach basketball?

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:23 pm
by Almost Champions
He really ran the how from behind the scenes when he was there. You can’t have a guy who was an almost Detroit lion and not him have a chance at being an almost champion.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:30 pm
by Hoopie74
Josh Arey ain't bad. Small school in a great league.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:33 pm
by jgordon0315
When we talk about one of the best coaches in the SE District Jeff Lisath (Portsmouth) has to be in the conversation. (28) years as a head coach with a Career record of 414-238 (63.5%); 7 Conference Titles; 15 Sectional Titles; 7 District Titles (D1, D2, D3); 1 Regional Title & Final-Four 2009 (Piketon) and Regional Runner-up 2019 (Dayton Northridge); Jeff has been named Conference Coach of the year seven times, and District Coach of the year six times; In 2015 he was named AP Ohio Division III Coach of the Year; He is a guest speaker at coaching clinics including the 2015 Nike Basketball Coaching Clinic which has over 100K views on YouTube; Coached Ohio in the 2015 Ohio/Indiana All-Star game; Jeff also coached the South in the North/South All-Star game in 2012 and recently received the 2023 OHSBCA/OHSAA Sportsmanship, Ethics, and Integrity Award at the State Tournament this past season. Won a State Championship as a player in 1978 and as an Assistant Coach in 1988 at Portsmouth.

He became a program builder after being a longtime assistant at Portsmouth in the late 80s and early to mid 90”s where he ran camps, clinics, summer leagues, and the Bannon Park Classic. In 1998 he leaves Portsmouth and jumped into the frying pan to get Unioto back to the Convo after a short hiatus, the school's only sectional title from 1997--2011. Then he goes to Chillicothe Girls who had gone 11 straight years without a winning record, and led them to the Regionals in his first season then back-to-back winning seasons, competing with D1 Columbus area schools. Then he takes over at Piketon and becomes the winningest coach in school history taking them to their first and only Final Four appearance, Piketon became a top-tier program in the SE. Jeff then goes to Dayton Northridge and becomes the winningest coach in school history at a school that had not won a district title in 70 years.

Prior to all of this, fresh out of college he became the Head Coach at Columbus State Community College for three years and led them to a 59-9 record, (1983-1986) moving them from a club sport to an NAIA member before leaving for Portsmouth. Jeff’s full-time position with the prison system was a big part of him moving around. He retired as Prison Warden in 2016. Jeff is the author of two books “In Jesus Name I Played” and “My Faith and Basketball” Released in March 2020. A Third book “Faith on the Court” is to be released in the fall of 2023.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:53 am
by Hookshot
Anytime this kind of debate/discussion occurs, it is necessary to separate out these two questions: 1. Who is the best coach over a long period of time (career accomplishments, wins, championships, etc) and 2. Who is the best active coach today, regardless as to how long they have coached -- 1 year, 5 years, 20 years, etc). There is of course can be a major difference depending on the ground rules of the discussion.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:16 am
by trojandave
Great info, jgordon0315, and I don't think there's any question that Jeff is indeed one of the top coaches not only in the SE district, but in the entire state of Ohio. He's won everywhere he's been, and he has coached in some situations where he had to build up the program almost from the ground up. I am very confident that he will win at Portsmouth because of his past accomplishments.

I understand hookshot's point.......the phrase "best coach" can be used to go in several different directions. Is the "best" coach the one who has the most wins? Is the "best" coach the one who wins with marginal talent? Is the "best" coach the one who has the greatest tournament resume? Is the "best" coach the one who took over programs that were floundering and brought them up to prominence?

I'll put Coach Lisath up against any coach in the SE district, and he will more than hold his own. We're very happy to have him coaching our Trojans.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:50 pm
by Whs95fan
Hookshot and trojandave bring up great points, I also can't pinpoint a singular coach because I simply don't have the knowledge of someone coaching 2+ hours away. What I will say is that coach Maddox has lead a Warren program to a 401-161 record with a final four appearance, 2 district titles, and 5 district runner-ups in his 24 year career. Prior to coach Maddox's arrival from Logan, the basketball program was 381-413 in 38 years under 10 different head coaches.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:22 pm
by trojandave
Whs95fan: Coach Maddox has done a great job at Warren bringing that program to prominence. I know I really enjoyed watching Portsmouth and Warren battle in the SEOAL. A lot of close games with a lot of intensity. There was a period of 4 years where PHS won 3 times at the old Warriordome. Not too many teams can say that. Overall, Warren had a winning record vs. Portsmouth in the SEOAL.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:36 pm
by DUNK1
I’m sure all the other fellas mentioned are fine coaches. But Howie did it at all four schools he coached at. He rebuilt three of those from seller dweller to the top. He’s won at places no one ever had. He’s hands down the best.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:49 am
by Rexdog
Travis Wise

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:25 am
by 3rd Knuckle
Maddox, Kellough, Arey, Buechler

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:29 pm
by Whs95fan
trojandave wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:22 pm Whs95fan: Coach Maddox has done a great job at Warren bringing that program to prominence. I know I really enjoyed watching Portsmouth and Warren battle in the SEOAL. A lot of close games with a lot of intensity. There was a period of 4 years where PHS won 3 times at the old Warriordome. Not too many teams can say that. Overall, Warren had a winning record vs. Portsmouth in the SEOAL.
Miss the rivalry, didn't matter the record of either team, you always knew it was going to be a battle whenever these two met.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:13 pm
by otbz1
Eastern Brown's head coach, they never stop winning lol.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:34 pm
by DUNK1
3rd Knuckle wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:25 am Maddox, Kellough, Arey, Buechler
Agree that’s how I would rate them behind Howie.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:57 pm
by JC2124
Hoopie74 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:30 pm Josh Arey ain't bad. Small school in a great league.
He’s pretty good in my book. One of the best I’ve seen

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:46 pm
by Hoopie74
JC2124 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:57 pm
Hoopie74 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:30 pm Josh Arey ain't bad. Small school in a great league.
He’s pretty good in my book. One of the best I’ve seen
He gets alot from this lil school year in and year out. Sometimes makes something from nothing.

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:33 pm
by thirtyonetrap
Yeah, there’s a lot of debate about who the best coach is in SEO. But my question is who’s the worst? My vote goes to Reedsville’s coach. At a school where all other sports are flourishing he’s fighting for a double digit win total over five years combined. Now that’s excellence in losing at its best. :mrgreen:

Re: Best coach in SEO

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 1:51 pm
by avalanche
DUNK1 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:36 pm I’m sure all the other fellas mentioned are fine coaches. But Howie did it at all four schools he coached at. He rebuilt three of those from seller dweller to the top. He’s won at places no one ever had. He’s hands down the best.
Over a career it's Norm Persin and Howie isn't close. Let me know when Howie builds two programs into two of the top programs in the state and wins a state title. Norm is third all-time in career win. Howie is a fine coach, but no, he's not close to being the best with Norm still on the sidelines.