Division IV Lucasville Valley and Meigs County sectionals

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This is true a coach has to be looking to help his boys advance.


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So in our sectional how is the bracket set up cause we have 4 teams comeing out this year ?


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iron man,
you may be right about 99. i know they beat north adams handily during the regular season and got upset in the tournament. the wildcat faithful were unhappy because kennedy wouldn't play zone defense. when he went to ripley he played zone some of the time when he played whiteoak.
from 97 to 07 whiteoak had quite a run with a lot of talented players. if the current junior group continues to improve they could get the ball rolling again.


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Whiteoak has a talented junior group to say the least. The sophomore class has a few players...after that it's not loaded again until the 5th and 6th grade group gets old enough.


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This is what I think will happen.

1. Notre Dame 10-2
2. Manchester 8-4
3. New Boston Glenwood 7-3
4. Leesburg Fairfield 7-6
5. South Webster 5-6
6. Whiteoak 5-8
7. East 3-6
8. Green 2-9
9. Western 2-11
10. Clay 1-10

1st Round
Green vs. Western
East vs. Clay

2nd Round
Green vs N.D
East vs Manchester
New Boston vs Whiteoak
Fairfield vs South Webster

Advancing to CONVO: #1 Notre Dame, #2 Manchester, #3 Whiteoak, #4 Fairfield



At Wellston

1. Southern 10-1
2. South Gallia 7-4
3. Eastern Pike 8-3
4. Waterford 4-5
5. Eastern Meigs 4-5
6. Ironton St. Joseph 7-6
7. Symmes Valley 5-7
8. Miller 3-7
9. Trimble 1-11

1st Round
Miller vs Trimble

2nd Round
Southern vs Miller
South Gallia vs Symmes Valley
Eastern Pike vs St. Joe
Waterford vs Eastern Meigs

Advancing to CONVO: #1 Southern, #2 South Gallia, #3 Eastern Pike, #4 Waterford

District 1st Round
#1 Southern vs #4 Fairfield
#2 Manchester vs #3 Eastern Pike
#1 Notre Dame vs #4 Waterford
#2 South Gallia vs #3 Whiteoak

District Finals
#1 Southern vs #2 Manchester
#1 Notre Dame vs #2 South Gallia

Advancing to Regionals: #1 Southern and #2 South Gallia

Im praying this happens!!!!!


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When is the date for the drawing?


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Western below teams they beat . But we will have to see they have several games before the draw Green,East,Clay,New Boston so they can at least make it interesting.


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scarlet_gray,

I believe the tournament draw for the entire Southeast District (all divisions) is Sunday, February 12th.


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South Webster hammered Oak Hill

New Boston lost to Eastern Pike


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Whiteoak 61
Fayetteville 52


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Ironman92 wrote:Just killed 15 minutes of life to pretty much say Whiteoak will face Fairfield or Manchester somehow....with some South Webster stuff as well.

2011

#5 Fairfield by 10 over #4 Clay....then onto the district finals to lose to South Webster
#6 Whiteoak over #3 Green....then on to the district finals to lose to Manchester
#1 Manchester to the regional finals
#2 South Webster to the regional semis

2010

#4 Whiteoak lost to #5 Fairfield.....then South Webster defeated Fairfield
#3 Manchester all the way to the regionals

2009

#4 Fairfield over #5 Whiteoak...Fairfield lost a close one to eventaul state champ Oak Hill
Manchester played South Webster.....Manchester to the districts

2008

Manchester played Whiteoak....Manchester won and went to the district finals
Fairfield went to the district semis

2007

South Webster to the regionals
Whiteoak over Notre Dame by 20...Whiteoak loses in the districts

2006

Fairfield over Green
South Webster state champions
Whiteoak beat Manchester by 25.....then beat Clay by 30 (Cam Thoroman's last high school game)...Whiteoak lost to South Webster in district finals2005

South Webster over Fairfield.......South Webster to regionals
Whiteoak over Manchester by 30.....lost in the district finals

2004

Whiteoak to the districts...beat Manchester

2003

Whiteoak to the regional finals...beat Manchester along the way

2002

Whiteoak to the Final 4.....beat Manchester and South Webster along the way

2001

Whiteoak to the regionals....not sure who they beat

2000

Whiteoak to the districts....not sure who they beat

1999

Whiteoak beat Clay 104-51?.....then played SHL North Adams



In the past 13 years Whiteoak has faced either Manchester or Fairfield OR hammered an SOC 1 team.....

How long has it been since Notre Dame, Green, Clay, New Boston or East has made it to the regionals....or even to the district finals in a year where 1 SE District team went to the regionals.

No problem posting this stuff but putting in how many whiteoak beat teams by in 2005-6 and then just saying defeated by SW in district finals is pretty funny. Whiteoak was absolutely destroyed by SW in that game. I am pretty sure it was by around 40 and it wasnt even that close.


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Projected final records for Valley Sectional. (not sure if all these games will be played before draw)

1. ND 17-3/18-2
2. NB 12-8/13-7
3. Manch 12-8/13-7
4. SW 11-9
5. FF 11-9/10-10
6. Wo 8-12/9-11
7. East 7-12/8-11
8. Green 6-14/5-15
9. Western 3-17/2-18
10. Clay 2-18/1-19
Last edited by jimmy chipwood on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:39 am, edited 7 times in total.


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southernpride wrote:
Ironman92 wrote:Just killed 15 minutes of life to pretty much say Whiteoak will face Fairfield or Manchester somehow....with some South Webster stuff as well.

2011

#5 Fairfield by 10 over #4 Clay....then onto the district finals to lose to South Webster
#6 Whiteoak over #3 Green....then on to the district finals to lose to Manchester
#1 Manchester to the regional finals
#2 South Webster to the regional semis

2010

#4 Whiteoak lost to #5 Fairfield.....then South Webster defeated Fairfield
#3 Manchester all the way to the regionals

2009

#4 Fairfield over #5 Whiteoak...Fairfield lost a close one to eventaul state champ Oak Hill
Manchester played South Webster.....Manchester to the districts

2008

Manchester played Whiteoak....Manchester won and went to the district finals
Fairfield went to the district semis

2007

South Webster to the regionals
Whiteoak over Notre Dame by 20...Whiteoak loses in the districts

2006

Fairfield over Green
South Webster state champions
Whiteoak beat Manchester by 25.....then beat Clay by 30 (Cam Thoroman's last high school game)...Whiteoak lost to South Webster in district finals2005

South Webster over Fairfield.......South Webster to regionals
Whiteoak over Manchester by 30.....lost in the district finals

2004

Whiteoak to the districts...beat Manchester

2003

Whiteoak to the regional finals...beat Manchester along the way

2002

Whiteoak to the Final 4.....beat Manchester and South Webster along the way

2001

Whiteoak to the regionals....not sure who they beat

2000

Whiteoak to the districts....not sure who they beat

1999

Whiteoak beat Clay 104-51?.....then played SHL North Adams



In the past 13 years Whiteoak has faced either Manchester or Fairfield OR hammered an SOC 1 team.....

How long has it been since Notre Dame, Green, Clay, New Boston or East has made it to the regionals....or even to the district finals in a year where 1 SE District team went to the regionals.

No problem posting this stuff but putting in how many whiteoak beat teams by in 2005-6 and then just saying defeated by SW in district finals is pretty funny. Whiteoak was absolutely destroyed by SW in that game. I am pretty sure it was by around 40 and it wasnt even that close.


In 2000 Whiteoak beat Eastern Pike by 12 or so in the District Final


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I don't really see that it matters what teams have done in past seasons but what they are doing this season as far as where they should be seeded.


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The past shows that Whiteoak/Manchester/Fairfield and often South Webster take turns knocking each other out.....while the SOC 1 schools give each other the very best chance to get to the district semis.

Yes, in 2006 the state champion South Webster Jeeps destroyed Whiteoak in the district finals.....Whiteoak with all rotation players from elementary up were far and away the second best team in the district.

Those 4 teams play superior schedules and never get credit for it in the seeding at Valley....and won't again this year.


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Ironman92, you not only wasted 15 minutes of your life, but the rest of ours reading it as well. Also, some of your "facts" are off. Many of the SOC I schools have made district finals appearances in the past decade. Also to suggest that Eastern Pike and Symmes Valley from the other sectional have not represented well in the tournament is ridiculous. Throw out New Boston and Notre Dame and all of the SOC I schools have had some tournament success, especially relative to their size/situations. This district has also had North Adams and Peebles in it on several occasions, and Western use to be in the SHL. What about in those years? Were the SOC coaches slinging the majority vote around then too?

You have displayed your unwaranted hatred against the soc schools for years now. It's grown quite old, and is really sort of sad. How do you think the teams should have been seeded last year? There have been some occasions where SHL coaches have conspired in seeding just like you cry the SOC coaches have. What about Manchesters down years in the middle of the decade, (04-07 or so) why not include some of those tourny scores. Whiteoak also had a few quick tourny exits in that period as well. In some of those years nearly any or all of the teams in a sectional would want to play a team that was "down".

I could easily type a list showing that team x played team y in all of these different years. You fail to acknowledge that in some of those years team x really wanted to play team y because team y wasn't any good and had already been beat by team x twice by an average of 30 points. In a few of those years Manchester and Fairfield were down and were playing in a sectional-semi just to have a chance to play a top seeded team (which happened to be Whiteoak in some instances). I'm sure Whiteoak was really crying foul in those situations.


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Your comment about the TVC at least representing well in the tournament ( I guess compared to the SOC) is also humoring. With a few of those teams mentioned, I guess making one or two Convo appearances in the last decade is considered representing well.


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Compare the SOC 1 schools that go to Valley versus the TVC. See what you get in the last 5 or ten years.

Eastern and Symmes have been fine....but they go to the other site. No hate of any kid or school....just how those coaches work together, but the district big shots that won't change how it is done. It's not equally fair to each team in D4. EP will never get a tie-breaking vote in their sectional.

My stance on this won't change unless all teams are seeded as they should be with consideration of schedule....it's a district thing. The SVC is just as bad at Waverly...TVC as well....SEOAL at Logan. Why are we the only district that does this? It's stupid.


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Ironman, if you have time why dont you look up (hell I might do it) the head to head record of the SHL vs any SOC 1 school in tournament play over the last decade or so.


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jimmy chipwood wrote:Ironman, if you have time why dont you look up (hell I might do it) the head to head record of the SHL vs any SOC 1 school in tournament play over the last decade or so.

I'm not sure I would like to see this one. Western will have to be considered SOC from the 02-03 season until present and SHL for any previous years.


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