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Why is it secret? So players won’t get feelz hurt or so parents won’t cause a stink? 78% of the starters in the league will get a mention


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Ironman92 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:23 pm Why is it secret? So players won’t get feelz hurt or so parents won’t cause a stink? 78% of the starters in the league will get a mention
Probably


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Ironman92 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:23 pm Why is it secret? So players won’t get feelz hurt or so parents won’t cause a stink? 78% of the starters in the league will get a mention
So they can get the names to the principals and have them verify the spelling of the names...I’m not even kidding.


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danicalifornia wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:45 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:23 pm Why is it secret? So players won’t get feelz hurt or so parents won’t cause a stink? 78% of the starters in the league will get a mention
So they can get the names to the principals and have them verify the spelling of the names...I’m not even kidding.
I wouldn’t trust the coaches in this league with the spellings either.


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Bennett unanimous POY is what I’m hearing.
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Haven't even heard any rumors yet. But I assumed that's how it would go. Good luck to all SVC teams this week in their tournament games!!


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I’d put our top 5 up against any top 5 from any league in our area


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mlittle wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:15 am I’d put our top 5 up against any top 5 from any league in our area
That would be cool. I would definitely like to see that.
Be some good basketball.


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BigBlueNation wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:00 pm
mlittle wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:15 am I’d put our top 5 up against any top 5 from any league in our area
That would be cool. I would definitely like to see that.
Be some good basketball.
Yep. Always thought it would be cool to do that. 4-6 leagues top 8 and play a tournament.


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mlittle wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:15 am I’d put our top 5 up against any top 5 from any league in our area
For sure! That would be fun to watch


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Great group of kids! However these coaches continue to contradict their own picks every singe year


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What do you mean contradict their own picks?


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Backerpitch70 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:11 am What do you mean contradict their own picks?
2 seasons in a row we’ve had less all league picks than teams that finished below us in the standings. It’s almost impossible to win POY or COY without winning the league so if so much emphasis is put in winning how are teams that finish below us getting more all league picks. We’ve went 25-3 in the league the last 2 seasons and have had the same amt of all league players or less than teams who’ve barely been .500. If this is really the case and those teams have that much more talent and we’ve put up that kind of record then there is a CLEAR gap in coaching between Hoops and the rest of the league. Or Little is a lot better than he’s getting credit for, or both


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mlittle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:28 am
Backerpitch70 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:11 am What do you mean contradict their own picks?
2 seasons in a row we’ve had less all league picks than teams that finished below us in the standings. It’s almost impossible to win POY or COY without winning the league so if so much emphasis is put in winning how are teams that finish below us getting more all league picks. We’ve went 25-3 in the league the last 2 seasons and have had the same amt of all league players or less than teams who’ve barely been .500. If this is really the case and those teams have that much more talent and we’ve put up that kind of record then there is a CLEAR gap in coaching between Hoops and the rest of the league. Or Little is a lot better than he’s getting credit for, or both
Sometimes bad teams have a couple really good players, and good teams have a lot of avg. to good players, which makes them a better team, but not necessarily full of all-league players. I do think Branson would've gotten on 3rd team, possibly 2nd had he played more at the beginning of the year. Also, I think Galloway not getting on one of the 3 teams isn't really related to his play. I also believe coaches aren't going to give Unioto players the benefit of the doubt.


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I’m pretty good with the picks. I do see where mlittle is coming from though. If you’re going to let Piketon have 5 players on the list you have to let Unioto have a least 5 right? The breakdown from top of standings to bottom: Adena 5, Unioto 4, Piketon 5, Zt 4, Westfall 3, Pv 4, SE 3, Huntington 3.


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No one let anything, the 8 league coaches voted on the top 15 players in the league. There is no set criteria for how a coach votes. Wins versus losses, standings in the league, head to head matchups, injuries, covid and quarantine (new to the game), behavior and character on and off the court, these are all issues, as well as some that I am forgetting that influence how a coach might vote for a player for all league. When you take human opinions into the equation, your going to have biases showing. No one that I know of on this board, was in that meeting, so we can speculate for a long time about why!

Football gives each team according to how they fall in the standings a set amount of picks for all league, then the coaches vote for the 20 different players of the year category. By having sooooo many choices for POY's at different positions, it keeps the complaining down, but IMO, waters down the prestige of the awards! Again, Just My Opinion!

BTW, there aren't 20 football choices, just emphasized for a point!


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se-alum wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:51 am
mlittle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:28 am
Backerpitch70 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:11 am What do you mean contradict their own picks?
2 seasons in a row we’ve had less all league picks than teams that finished below us in the standings. It’s almost impossible to win POY or COY without winning the league so if so much emphasis is put in winning how are teams that finish below us getting more all league picks. We’ve went 25-3 in the league the last 2 seasons and have had the same amt of all league players or less than teams who’ve barely been .500. If this is really the case and those teams have that much more talent and we’ve put up that kind of record then there is a CLEAR gap in coaching between Hoops and the rest of the league. Or Little is a lot better than he’s getting credit for, or both
Sometimes bad teams have a couple really good players, and good teams have a lot of avg. to good players, which makes them a better team, but not necessarily full of all-league players. I do think Branson would've gotten on 3rd team, possibly 2nd had he played more at the beginning of the year. Also, I think Galloway not getting on one of the 3 teams isn't really related to his play. I also believe coaches aren't going to give Unioto players the benefit of the doubt.
Ah, yes. The ol’ let’s teach a freshman to not play the game with emotions by not voting him above a player that he wouldn’t play for 7 of the 8 teams in the league. I’ve seen it a million times and it’s always a good way to show that player that he needs to not play with emotion.

Or maybe it’s because that player marched in the BLM protests in Chillicothe. That could be something not related to his play.


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Yikes, that probably shouldn’t be touched.

It is what it is, maybe if we played at a faster pace the stats would show up more, but it wins games, which is the ultimate goal at the end of the day.


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How about we be thankful for where the athletes were voted and even mentioned instead of being butt hurt over every single thing that doesn't go our way. Have your kids to maybe more work in during the off season. I for one never thought we would get in 20 games this year. Very thankful for that.


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