D2 Seeding Predictions/Thoughts

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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:05 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:43 pm
Treyman3 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:03 am Pretty good list, Like you said earlier, it's going to be interesting to see where coaches put FU. They play a difficult non league schedule and beat Logan Elm, but that record is going to be hard to ignore.
Because many coaches aren't going to do their homework and challenge themselves to consider the quality of their league and non-league schedule. It's a minor pitfall of having leagues split across different athletic districts.
Homework or not....not easy to know where to fairly seed FU
Fair. Especially in this chaotic season.


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formerfcfan wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:10 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:05 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:43 pm

Because many coaches aren't going to do their homework and challenge themselves to consider the quality of their league and non-league schedule. It's a minor pitfall of having leagues split across different athletic districts.
Homework or not....not easy to know where to fairly seed FU
Fair. Especially in this chaotic season.
We can argue they are one of the top 5 teams but man you just can’t ignore all of their losses. McClain is 10-5 and 3 games without their star player ...schedule not as tough but they are likely the deserving 8 seed. Putting FU above Jackson or Unioto would be a bit of a slap in the face. I feel FU might land the 9 seed....and that will likely anger New Lexington/Athens/Vinton Co....and probably the 1 seed lol


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Seems obvious

1. Warren
2. Logan Elm
3. Hillsboro
4. Waverly
5. Sheridan
6. Jackson
7. Unioto


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:37 pm Seems obvious

1. Warren
2. Logan Elm
3. Hillsboro
4. Waverly
5. Sheridan
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
Hmmm


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mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:37 pm Seems obvious

1. Warren
2. Logan Elm
3. Hillsboro
4. Waverly
5. Sheridan
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
Hmmm
What’s yours?


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:33 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:37 pm Seems obvious

1. Warren
2. Logan Elm
3. Hillsboro
4. Waverly
5. Sheridan
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
Hmmm
What’s yours?
I don’t have much issue with the order. It was the “seems obvious” that got me.

Is your deciding factor for Jackson over Unioto our MT loss or your home Boro win?


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mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:42 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:33 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 pm

Hmmm
What’s yours?
I don’t have much issue with the order. It was the “seems obvious” that got me.

Is your deciding factor for Jackson over Unioto our MT loss or your home Boro win?
We both lost equally at Hillsboro....we had the opportunity to cancel it and did, Unioto didn’t have that opportunity.

We are close but Unioto losing at MT and we beat MT at MT 57-39

Our 9 road games out of 13 is tough as well.

I think our teams might be as similar as they come but I truly believe our resume is slightly better and yes in my opinion the @MT game may just be the tie breaker. We gave Hillsboro their worst defeat.

Unfortunately the coaches of the SE district won’t let me vote.


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:55 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:42 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:33 pm

What’s yours?
I don’t have much issue with the order. It was the “seems obvious” that got me.

Is your deciding factor for Jackson over Unioto our MT loss or your home Boro win?
We both lost equally at Hillsboro....we had the opportunity to cancel it and did, Unioto didn’t have that opportunity.

We are close but Unioto losing at MT and we beat MT at MT 57-39

Our 9 road games out of 13 is tough as well.

I think our teams might be as similar as they come but I truly believe our resume is slightly better and yes in my opinion the @MT game may just be the tie breaker. We gave Hillsboro their worst defeat.

Unfortunately the coaches of the SE district won’t let me vote.
Makes sense


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mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:55 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:42 pm

I don’t have much issue with the order. It was the “seems obvious” that got me.

Is your deciding factor for Jackson over Unioto our MT loss or your home Boro win?
We both lost equally at Hillsboro....we had the opportunity to cancel it and did, Unioto didn’t have that opportunity.

We are close but Unioto losing at MT and we beat MT at MT 57-39

Our 9 road games out of 13 is tough as well.

I think our teams might be as similar as they come but I truly believe our resume is slightly better and yes in my opinion the @MT game may just be the tie breaker. We gave Hillsboro their worst defeat.

Unfortunately the coaches of the SE district won’t let me vote.
Makes sense
Yeah but we’ll still have coaches put FU over both of us. Probably one coach will put Jackson 11th or 12th but it’ll get thrown out


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Ironman92 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:38 am
pfloyd wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:34 am
mlittle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:28 am Should start another thread that says “what idiot coach is gonna do the Dabo vote this year?”

I can see someone voting Warren or LE at 10
... wish the voting was made public ... this is why I liked the Jackson in-person voting - coaches were made accountable for their voting ... if I'm Warren or LE AND this happens (as you say some coach WILL do this) - I WANT TO KNOW who it was, as I would have a long memory ... just saying LOL
Coaches can see how the other coaches seed everyone
Yes, and the highest and lowest votes are tossed out, so one team voting themselves way high or others way low, just gets tossed.


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:03 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:55 pm

We both lost equally at Hillsboro....we had the opportunity to cancel it and did, Unioto didn’t have that opportunity.

We are close but Unioto losing at MT and we beat MT at MT 57-39

Our 9 road games out of 13 is tough as well.

I think our teams might be as similar as they come but I truly believe our resume is slightly better and yes in my opinion the @MT game may just be the tie breaker. We gave Hillsboro their worst defeat.

Unfortunately the coaches of the SE district won’t let me vote.
Makes sense
Yeah but we’ll still have coaches put FU over both of us. Probably one coach will put Jackson 11th or 12th but it’ll get thrown out
I can see FU coming in at 8/9


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mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:03 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm

Makes sense
Yeah but we’ll still have coaches put FU over both of us. Probably one coach will put Jackson 11th or 12th but it’ll get thrown out
I can see FU coming in at 8/9
Joe B will be fired up if it’s the 8


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Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:36 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:03 pm

Yeah but we’ll still have coaches put FU over both of us. Probably one coach will put Jackson 11th or 12th but it’ll get thrown out
I can see FU coming in at 8/9
Joe B will be fired up if it’s the 8
As he should


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Re: D2 Seeding Predictions/Thoughts

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Pol pot wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:06 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:38 am
pfloyd wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:34 am

... wish the voting was made public ... this is why I liked the Jackson in-person voting - coaches were made accountable for their voting ... if I'm Warren or LE AND this happens (as you say some coach WILL do this) - I WANT TO KNOW who it was, as I would have a long memory ... just saying LOL
Coaches can see how the other coaches seed everyone
Yes, and the highest and lowest votes are tossed out, so one team voting themselves way high or others way low, just gets tossed.
You don’t vote for your own team


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I’ve heard some crazy things.

I’ve heard Fairfield Union lobbying hard to get the #6
I’ve heard one team trying to get 2 seeds above Logan Elm and therefore avoid Warren and LE and would put them against each other in Dist semis.
I’ve heard Miami Trace going after a better seed to try to get Unioto again.

I can’t imagine Fairfield not getting some 10-12 votes so that will make the 6 almost impossible. If Logan Elm gets the 4 seed then the coaches need to lose their vote snd just draw from a hat the next year. No way Unioto worse than 7 seed and no way Trace can get to the 10 seed, that would be fishier than Elm at 4


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Hillsboro at 3 over Waverly 4 is not obvious.......


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smurray wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:40 pm Hillsboro at 3 over Waverly 4 is not obvious.......
Make an argument for Waverly at the 3 over Boro.


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mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm
smurray wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:40 pm Hillsboro at 3 over Waverly 4 is not obvious.......
Make an argument for Waverly at the 3 over Boro.
I’ll be shocked if they get a single vote for the 3 over Hillsboro.


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danicalifornia wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:48 pm
mlittle wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm
smurray wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:40 pm Hillsboro at 3 over Waverly 4 is not obvious.......
Make an argument for Waverly at the 3 over Boro.
I’ll be shocked if they get a single vote for the 3 over Hillsboro.
If Waverly and Boro played in a sudden death match for the 3 there would be 700 foul shots taken


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smurray wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:40 pm Hillsboro at 3 over Waverly 4 is not obvious.......
Seems like it is

Not saying Waverly couldn’t beat Hillsboro just saying Hillsboro the better resume IMO. I watched both of you beat my team within 3 days and was equally impressed. The Ready win was nice but losing to West at home comes close to negating it. I think Waverly may have the higher ceiling but think Hillsboro has been more consistent all year.


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