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boilermaker wrote:I never said that he needs to go back and read it again . I said Wellston has as much talent this fall than anyone we play . far from saying we will go 10 -o .

I have considered the source there BuB?????? You are as I remember .They still laugh at you at the Blue box.....LOL
actually your first post on the 2011 Wellston football topic you say and I quote "15-0"

Then you go onto say they will make theplayoffs this year.......... from 3 wins to the playoffs!!!

just sayin..... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Tressel has extended his 2 game suspension to 5 games.
Also, the NCAA denied the appeal of the players suspensions.


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And now comes this......

Ohio State football: Tressel's emails were forwarded
Information sent to Pryor's mentor in his hometown
Friday, March 25, 2011 03:08 AM
By Mike Wagner and Tim May

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

It's unclear when Tressel forwarded emails to Sarniak, whether the businessman received them and, if he did, what happened as a result.
Friday, March 25, 2011
When Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel learned last spring that some of his current players were in trouble, he shared the information with someone he thought could help his star quarterback even though he said he didn't tell his bosses.

Tressel forwarded the information to Ted Sarniak, a mentor to Terrelle Pryor, after the coach received emails warning that Pryor and at least one other player had sold memorabilia to a local tattoo-parlor owner who was under federal investigation for drug trafficking, multiple sources have confirmed to The Dispatch.

Sarniak, 67, is a prominent businessman in Pryor's hometown of Jeannette, Pa. He befriended the quarterback years ago and accompanied him on recruiting trips to Ohio State and other universities.

During a news conference on March 8 to announce NCAA ethics violations by Tressel, the coach said he kept the information to himself to protect the confidentiality of the federal investigation and for the safety of his players.

But Tressel also nodded his head and said "um-hmm" when asked whether he had forwarded the emails to anyone.

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith quickly intervened to prevent Tressel from answering that question about the matter currently under investigation by the NCAA. The university suspended Tressel for the first five games of the coming football season and fined him $250,000 for failing to report the information to Ohio State officials or the NCAA, but the NCAA could accept or increase the penalties when it issues a final ruling.

Pryor and four other players also have been suspended for the first five games. A sixth player has been suspended for one game.

When asked whether Tressel had passed the information to Sarniak, OSU officials said, "We are not discussing any issues relative to the case until it is resolved with the NCAA."

In a public-records request, The Dispatch asked Ohio State officials for emails involving Tressel and Sarniak, and the university is reviewing its records. So it remains unclear when Tressel forwarded emails to Sarniak, whether the businessman received them and, if he did, what happened as a result.

The Dispatch made numerous attempts to reach Sarniak for comment, both by phone and in person. His wife said the family would have no comment.

Doug Archie, OSU's director of compliance, said Sarniak served as Pryor's contact person during Ohio State's recruiting efforts but is not considered a booster.

"Mr. Sarniak and Terrelle Pryor have been friends for a number of years, and their friendship dates back prior to Terrelle's enrollment at Ohio State," Archie said in an email to The Dispatch. "As the friendship developed, Mr. Sarniak is someone who Terrelle has reached out to for advice and guidance throughout his high-school and collegiate career."

Archie said the university thoroughly examined the relationship between Sarniak and Pryor before the nation's top college recruit arrived on campus as a freshman in 2008.

"The university continues to monitor the association between the two in case any concerns arise," Archie said.

Sources said that Sarniak has served as Pryor's mentor at the request of his family, and Tressel thought that Sarniak could help counsel the quarterback after Tressel realized that Pryor was among the players involved with a man under federal investigation. Sarniak, who has owned the Jeannette Specialty Glass company since 1976, has attended some Ohio State football games in the past three years.

"Teddy has done a lot for Terrelle, and Terrelle has done a lot for Teddy," said Ray Reitz, Pryor's former coach at Jeannette High School. "Terrelle is loved back here around Jeannette, and I think he and Coach Tressel have done a helluva job at Ohio State. He is a kid and has made mistakes, but there are some people that have wanted to see Terrelle fail since he left here."

Pryor arrived at Ohio State in the summer of 2008 after leaving Jeannette, a blue-collar town cut into western Pennsylvania's foothills about 25 miles east of Pittsburgh. It is home to about 10,000 residents, many of whom have been hit hard by a depressed local economy.

Pryor was the most ballyhooed quarterback recruit for the Buckeyes since Art Schlichter in 1978. He led Jeannette to state championships in football and basketball his senior year.

The 2010 season began with Pryor as a frontrunner for the Heisman Trophy and the Buckeyes heading for a shot at a national title. It ended with the Heisman in another quarterback's hands, fans questioning Pryor's inconsistent play and leadership, and the NCAA bearing down on him.

Many in Pryor's hometown said they have been stunned that the local prodigy has been criticized so harshly.

"He has made play after play after play for Ohio State, and it just doesn't seem like anyone over there is ever satisfied with Terrelle," said Rick Pitzer, manager of Pitzer's Townhouse restaurant in Jeannette, which Pryor has frequented over the years. "I know there are rules, but the items he sold were his. And to take away half a season from him and ruin his last chance for the Heisman just doesn't seem right. We are so proud of him, but you have no idea what it would have meant to have a Heisman Trophy winner from Jeannette."

Off the field, Pryor has attracted his share of headlines.

Among them was a Dispatch report in January that Pryor had received traffic tickets while driving cars that belonged to car salesmen. OSU officials knew that Pryor had borrowed a dealer's car while his car was in the shop last spring. He received two citations while driving that car.

Ohio State officials were unaware that Pryor had borrowed a car salesman's personal vehicle and received a ticket while returning to Columbus from Jeannette in the fall of his freshman year. The university has since investigated and found no violation. OSU officials said Pryor took the car, which the salesman said was for sale, for an extended, 48-hour test drive. Because some car dealers occasionally allow customers to borrow cars for extended periods, Ohio State and Big Ten officials concluded that Pryor had not violated NCAA rules.

The salesman has told The Dispatch that Pryor didn't buy the 2004 GMC Denali because he couldn't afford it.

Pryor is typical of many college students: He has made mistakes but has tried to learn from them, said Roy Hall, Jeannette High School football coach and Pryor's former quarterback coach.

"His emotions have gotten the best of him at times, but Terrelle is a good young man who has done a lot for OSU and does a lot for kids and the community back here," said Hall, who remains close to Pryor. "When he was back here around the holidays, we were at Pitzer's having dinner and he was pretty down about what happened and the suspension. But he's learned a good lesson, and he will be back."

A few houses down from Sarniak's glass factory on

N. Fourth Street hangs a banner touting Pryor, "2," and OSU running back Jordan Hall, "7," also of Jeannette. The house belongs to Hall's dad, Derrick Hall Sr.

It's a reminder of how the fortunes of this small Pennsylvania town and one of the nation's most prominent college football powers are linked.

"We stick together in this town and look out for one another," said Derrick Hall Sr. "I know a lot of people are down on the Buckeyes, Terrelle and Coach Tressel, but it's easy to kick people around during tough times."

mwagner@dispatch.com
tmay@dispatch.com



And the intrigue grows. IF Tressel contacted someone outside the program but did not notify anyone within OSU, he is done, in my opinion. He can still save himself but now is the time to just come out with EVERYTHING instead of this drip....drip....drip torture.


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he's well done toast . just like tonight's buckeyes LOL


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ManitouDan wrote:he's well done toast . just like tonight's buckeyes LOL
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This "new development" has been known by the people who need to know since the issue arose in Jan.

It is just now becoming public info.


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Well thats good cause if he lied then lied again that wouldv'e just looked bad, its really a sad time for buckeye fans, im trully pissed at the actions of the players an coach, an I love ohio state buckeyes football forever have, yes I understand that what the players done wasn't a huge crime but selling your osu gear an stuff for tats thats dumb as hell. Hopefully we can contend for something this upcoming season, none the less give some other ob's an players chances to step up to the spotlight.


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More and more little stuff coming up almost weekly, they'll (NCAA) get to the bottom of it shortly.


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I'm a big OHIO STATE Fan !!! But never did care much for Tressel.


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seofan_via_dublin wrote:This "new development" has been known by the people who need to know since the issue arose in Jan.

It is just now becoming public info.

And the court of public opinion will decide his future with Ohio State. With this getting out, there will be more pressure on OSU to either get rid of Tressel or to at least suspend for more than five games. Now this makes the NCAA look bad which will bring the heat down harder on the Buckeye's


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The NCAA doesn't make decisions based on public opinion.

If they did, Auburn would have been slaughtered, and several other high profile schools would be hurting badly.

OSU isn't getting rid of Tress, everything that will come out of this has already been submitted to the NCAA. The NCAA will be hard on the Bucks, but they will be fair as well.

They just punished Jim Calhoun for the exact same infraction, he got 3 games (10% of his season).
The Buckeyes expect more, and have already given 5 games, which is just under 50% of our season.

The 2 game deal was a preliminary thing that was always planned to be increased, but they weren't going to cut JT for 5, of the NCAA would have shortened the players deal.

Once the appeal failed, the 5 game suspension for Tress was announced. The NCAA has all the info, they will decide our fate, NOT ESPN!


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The NCAA doesn't make decisions based on public opinion.

If they did, Auburn would have been slaughtered, and several other high profile schools would be hurting badly.

OSU isn't getting rid of Tress, everything that will come out of this has already been submitted to the NCAA. The NCAA will be hard on the Bucks, but they will be fair as well.

They just punished Jim Calhoun for the exact same infraction, he got 3 games (10% of his season).
The Buckeyes expect more, and have already given 5 games, which is just under 50% of our season.

The 2 game deal was a preliminary thing that was always planned to be increased, but they weren't going to cut JT for 5, of the NCAA would have shortened the players deal.

Once the appeal failed, the 5 game suspension for Tress was announced. The NCAA has all the info, they will decide our fate, NOT ESPN!

I heard from an OSU Alum that Tressell may be gone


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^^^^^^^^^^

They don't have passenger trains here in C-bus anymore so they can't run him out "on a rail". I guess he'll have to drive or fly out when they buy him out. It's not like he won't have enough money to take with him when he goes. I don't feel sorry for ANY of these overpaid coaches in America and their sob stories. Heck, they're laughing at us all the way to the bank.


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I don't think anyone in the athletic program wants to see him go but I feel their hand could be forced. He may decide to leave of his own accord if they can arrangea buy-out. But the NCAA can't look kindly on a program that tolerates easily such discressions. Better to save the program than the coach. No one is bigger than tOSU itself.


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Word is Urban Meyer bought a house in UA in the past couple weeks!


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seofan_via_dublin wrote:Word is Urban Meyer bought a house in UA in the past couple weeks!
Makes sense. Tressel goes, interim coach for a year, Meyer rests up and comes in with all guns blazing.


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Tress isn't going anywhere, unless he decides to go.


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Tress isn't going anywhere, unless he decides to go.
I hope your right.


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OZZIEOHIO wrote:
Tress isn't going anywhere, unless he decides to go.
I hope your right.
Yeah, Ohio needs at least one good pro football team! :lol:


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Face it, if not for B10 championships and NC game appearances the vest would have already been fired. Win a few games and we turn our heads the other way.


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