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Oh and we keep shipping players to New England. News flash, they're starting to suck. Wonder why?

The Pats seem to play bad early in the season and continue to win games as the season go on.The Pats may not be able to flip the switch this year. Gordon has to learn the plays and be where he is suppose to be. Which is going to drive Brady crazy. But they may allow him because they can't extend the field. The Browns have moved on from the players they sent. Still need to get the Wr's going. But play time for the Wr;s will help as well as having Mayfiend throwing the ball. Will excite the the Wr's to play hard. The best thing so far is no news about a Browns players being in trouble.

Browns had a 28-14 lead, then turned back into the Browns. Turnovers hurt. Way too early to coronate Mayfield though it is not all his fault

.....and yes the Browns are still the Browns. Net ready for the next step

The questionable reversal of a first down opened the door for the Raiders. Seems like the Browns thought they won the game and did not finish. Part of the game is to learn to win.

The replay official in that game owes the Browns an apology. He obviously blew that call. PERIOD

Such bad officiating in this game. It was over, there's no way there was clear evidence to overturn the spot. If anything it looked like they gave him a short spot initially. There was something shady going on there. Couple that with the BS "in the grasp" call on the strip sack, and this crew should be reprimanded by the NFL. They also had a quick whistle on a Marshawn Lynch run.

Got to Luv the Cleveland Police. After the first win to remind the Browns fans to celebrate responsibly. Now jokingly saying they filed an arrest warrant against the refs for robbery. Even though they were so right.

GalliaGrad78 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:12 pm The replay official in that game owes the Browns an apology. He obviously blew that call. PERIOD

very much agree.....we have our own issues......we don't need the officials creating ones for us as well.......

That was a travesty! Yes the turnovers hurt but c'mon that was flat out robbery! The refs on the field had it right. One has to wonder what was going on in the replay booth. Was the fix in or did they just want Gruden to get his first win ? Whatever the case was, I Feel sorry for the Browns and the fans because it should have been there second win in a row.

With the Ravens coming to town, we face the prospect of a 1-3-1 start. And incredibly, some folks point to the "progress" we have shown. Does one win take the heat off Hue? Hell no! Put more numbers in the left hand column or find another job!

Getting screwed on calls in a game you should have won. It sure doesn't show up in the win column. Giving up after being up big and in control of the game against the Raiders. Coming up close but still have to get over the hump. Even former Browns Coach Marty Shottenheimer 2 AFC Championship games followed by going 10-6. Even later going 14-2 with San Diego. Had a much better record than Jackson can only dream of having. The expectations for this years Browns team with the talent has been debated around 8 wins or down from there. Is Jackson the Coach to get them over the hump. Sure hasn't proven he is the one to do that.

I don't think Jackson is the one. I like him, he very personable and handles the media well, but with him there it is a symbol of losing. I am sure Dorsey is chomping at the bit to get him out of there and get his own coach. Can Dee keep saving him? Thought I heard Jackson gave her the game ball after the win so that shows Jackson knows he needs her support and he will whine her and dine her as much as he can. The Ravens will be the toughest defense they played yet so this will really challenge this revived offense. When was the last time the offense has put up that many points? Losing Mitchell will kill the defense I am afraid.

dazed&confused wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:07 am With the Ravens coming to town, we face the prospect of a 1-3-1 start. And incredibly, some folks point to the "progress" we have shown. Does one win take the heat off Hue? Hell no! Put more numbers in the left hand column or find another job!

hot darn that's well said right there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heard commentators say Hue involved himself more in the special teams this week. It shows. They look worse.

How many missed tackles are we going to have today?

Browns gets the Willies at the end of the game to get them to the game winning FG in OT.

3 OT games already. 1-1-1 in those games.
Browns could easily be undefeated.......

Don't know if I'd say easy. But could be better. I still don't think Hue is developing talent. Dorsey is definitely selecting it. I want him to have the coaches he wants.

Browns defense plays well then it is like a NBA team rolling for a 20 point lead. Where the one team can do no right in stopping them. Browns have to many penalties. Drops to many passes. Mayfield still needs to learn the angles to throw passes around linemen. Willies seemed to make be plays but at least on one play didn't know Mayfield was passing him the ball. Need to get more of the running game going. That would help out the offensive line as they are making to many penalties. Will see if the Browns can be more consistent on offense and defense.