Ironton, Trimble, Waverly, Wheelersburg, Jackson on another level

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wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:43 pm
Mission15 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:14 pm

It's a numbers game, if you have 10-15 Role guys who don't live in WB, that makes all the difference in a program. It don't have to be a star.
Wheelersburg has been the recipient of around 15 Minford kids that live miles within the Minford school district over the past 25-yrs. If y'all want we can start listing names... Bendolph is one to name one that lived in Portsmouth that said he transferred/ lived to the W'burg district but never did so. He was the difference in the Villa Angela-St. Joseph game and had a major impact on a few others.

Just wait for the screaming from Burg fans when Ironton starts pulling kids that have played at Burg since pee-wee and then have a major impact when they play their old team.
You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC coach that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing him the rest of the season; however, it took the threat of video evidence to the OHSAA first.
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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:43 pm

Wheelersburg has been the recipient of around 15 Minford kids that live miles within the Minford school district over the past 25-yrs. If y'all want we can start listing names... Bendolph is one to name one that lived in Portsmouth that said he transferred/ lived to the W'burg district but never did so. He was the difference in the Villa Angela-St. Joseph game and had a major impact on a few others.

Just wait for the screaming from Burg fans when Ironton starts pulling kids that have played at Burg since pee-wee and then have a major impact when they play their old team.
You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing his the rest of the season, but the video evidence to the OHSAA first.
Fair statement. Irontons Carrico graduated 0 - 3 vs Ashland in his career. Ironton started winning post transfers.


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Burg posters, you are making yourselves look stupid. Ironton B_ _ _ _ slapped you for the majority of 40 years and you refuse to recognize it. If it it weren't for a very weak coaching regime, it would be even worse.
And it's only going to get worse...


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Why all the debate about transfers, etc? This is common everywhere; just ask public schools in Cincy that get raped and pillaged by the catholic schools!

At the end of the day, all that matters is wins/losses. And those wins count equally regardless of the number of transfers to achieve said wins.

Don’t want kids leaving your program for other schools? Then get better coaching, improve the program, and give the kids an incentive to stay.


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Chilli_Dawg_614 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:05 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing his the rest of the season, but the video evidence to the OHSAA first.
Fair statement. Irontons Carrico graduated 0 - 3 vs Ashland in his career. Ironton started winning post transfers.
No one from Scioto Co outside of W'burg is going to listen to any of this. Ironton doesn't have to admit to anything, b/c those who live in a glass house need not throw stones.
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wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:43 pm
Mission15 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:14 pm

It's a numbers game, if you have 10-15 Role guys who don't live in WB, that makes all the difference in a program. It don't have to be a star.
Wheelersburg has been the recipient of around 15 Minford kids that live miles within the Minford school district over the past 25-yrs. If y'all want we can start listing names... Bendolph is one to name one that lived in Portsmouth that said he transferred/ lived to the W'burg district but never did so. He was the difference in the Villa Angela-St. Joseph game and had a major impact on a few others.

Just wait for the screaming from Burg fans when Ironton starts pulling kids that have played at Burg since pee-wee and then have a major impact when they play their old team.
You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
Which Ironton players last year were transfers?


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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:31 pm
Chilli_Dawg_614 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:05 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm

In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing his the rest of the season, but the video evidence to the OHSAA first.
Fair statement. Irontons Carrico graduated 0 - 3 vs Ashland in his career. Ironton started winning post transfers.
No one from Scioto Co outside of W'burg is going to listen to any of this. Ironton doesn't have to admit to anything, b/c those who live in glass house need not throw stones.
What if everyone admitted it's part of the game and moved on?


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Don’t often agree with SpeedK...I mean Chilli_Dawg 😉 but he’s 💯 on this one...


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Many football players as well. They were studs and had an impact on games.

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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:43 pm

Wheelersburg has been the recipient of around 15 Minford kids that live miles within the Minford school district over the past 25-yrs. If y'all want we can start listing names... Bendolph is one to name one that lived in Portsmouth that said he transferred/ lived to the W'burg district but never did so. He was the difference in the Villa Angela-St. Joseph game and had a major impact on a few others.

Just wait for the screaming from Burg fans when Ironton starts pulling kids that have played at Burg since pee-wee and then have a major impact when they play their old team.
You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC coach that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing him the rest of the season; however, it took the threat of video evidence to the OHSAA first. Also, a cease and desist letter from a local attorney.


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vladimir wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:20 am Many football players as well. They were studs and had an impact on games.

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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC coach that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing him the rest of the season; however, it took the threat of video evidence to the OHSAA first. Also, a cease and desist letter from a local attorney.

Many football players!!! Who were the “studs” you are talking about??

Two things you clowns don’t get is no one from Burg is saying that a kid or two didn’t come to Burg to play football over the years but never had Burg blatantly brought in 5-6 high impact players in in one season. NEVER!!!!!

Second, like wobycat had tried to explain to you there are quite a few kids that leave right outside the school district and even though they have a Burg Zip code they are considered open enrollment.

Why is that so F$&?ing hard to understand????


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vladimir wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:20 am Many football players as well. They were studs and had an impact on games.

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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC coach that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing him the rest of the season; however, it took the threat of video evidence to the OHSAA first. Also, a cease and desist letter from a local attorney.

How was Bendolph then able to play basketball for Burg that year?! What made him all of a sudden eligible for that??


Like is being said in this thread, sure kids are transferring to other schools like crazy these days but I get sick and tired of reading how Burg has been doing it for years when at most if it’s been one kid, a kid who has not came in and dominated and had Burg had not had this player or players they would have had a horrible season. If someone can give me the name of that player name I will eat crow and never post on this subject again.

If you take away the players Ironton has brought in over the last three years are they even that good of a football team??? I know the Young kid from Raceland was a huge addition the year he came and was a high impact player for them. The kicker that came from West, huge difference maker.

Big difference in bringing in one player to bringing in 5-6 players. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!


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TigerBob wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:31 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm
vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:43 pm

Wheelersburg has been the recipient of around 15 Minford kids that live miles within the Minford school district over the past 25-yrs. If y'all want we can start listing names... Bendolph is one to name one that lived in Portsmouth that said he transferred/ lived to the W'burg district but never did so. He was the difference in the Villa Angela-St. Joseph game and had a major impact on a few others.

Just wait for the screaming from Burg fans when Ironton starts pulling kids that have played at Burg since pee-wee and then have a major impact when they play their old team.
You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
Which Ironton players last year were transfers?
Number 25, 12 and the kicker. I think there were others that transferred in but not sure if they saw significant action but those 3 would start anywhere in our area.


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LockHerUp wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:50 pm Burg posters, you are making yourselves look stupid. Ironton B_ _ _ _ slapped you for the majority of 40 years and you refuse to recognize it. If it it weren't for a very weak coaching regime, it would be even worse.
And it's only going to get worse...
Last state championship was won by the burg. Just saying. Burgs win percentage top 5 of state ironton not in top 10. Just sayin


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vladimir wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:20 am Many football players as well. They were studs and had an impact on games.

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vladimir wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
In 2009, Bendolph didn't play really after the VASJ game, nor did he in the 2nd half of the season b/c he was still living in Portsmouth. He was a neighbour with an opposing SOC coach that had video of him coming and going from his home in Portsmouth. Woodward did the right thing by not dressing him the rest of the season; however, it took the threat of video evidence to the OHSAA first. Also, a cease and desist letter from a local attorney.
You proved my point on bendolph. On how this bird would react if these multiple transactions were heading to burg. You think coach at ironton has had a cease and desist letter yet?


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wobycat wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:10 pm
LockHerUp wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:50 pm Burg posters, you are making yourselves look stupid. Ironton B_ _ _ _ slapped you for the majority of 40 years and you refuse to recognize it. If it it weren't for a very weak coaching regime, it would be even worse.
And it's only going to get worse...
Last state championship was won by the burg. Just saying. Burgs win percentage top 5 of state ironton not in top 10. Just sayin
Exactly! And despite Ironton’s recent success, they have not produced a team that could compete against the 2017 Burg state championship team.


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wobycat wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:09 pm
TigerBob wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:31 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

You lost me at bendolph. Burg basketball did inherit quite a few minford transfers and it certainly made them better and they loaded up for a state run. Not afraid of admitting it. Something ironton fans need to do. They don’t sniff either state game without transfers.
Which Ironton players last year were transfers?
Number 25, 12 and the kicker. I think there were others that transferred in but not sure if they saw significant action but those 3 would start anywhere in our area.
25 didn’t start until 24 went down in playoffs, good player but not a major factor last year, admittedly is a stud this year
12 didn’t start period, was a 4th/5th DB and a 4th WR last year, again not a major factor, starter this year
Kicker is a lifelong Ironton kid who went to St. Joe, used that rule to play, not sure that’s a real “transfer”

There were two “during HS” transfers who saw significant time last year.
30 - Came as a freshman, played for previous staff
20 - Came as a sophomore, played 2 years under Pendleton, family still lives in Ironton

So 5 kids, two backups, 1 Ironton kid who used a very common exception, two starters that were either pre-Pendleton or legitimate moves by the family. The rest of the starters on both sides went to Ironton Elementary. Your “5 or 6 starters per year” comment doesn’t hold water.


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RBH23 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:13 pm Why all the debate about transfers, etc? This is common everywhere; just ask public schools in Cincy that get raped and pillaged by the catholic schools!

At the end of the day, all that matters is wins/losses. And those wins count equally regardless of the number of transfers to achieve said wins.

Don’t want kids leaving your program for other schools? Then get better coaching, improve the program, and give the kids an incentive to stay.
I don't understand it either. This is normal EVERYWHERE. The only thing I can gather is that seo is a smaller, secluded area and maybe the people are way out of touch.


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I think its more of kids transferring vs kids being encouraged to come to a school. But yeah, everyone gets transfers, everyone has kids leave. It happens. Adapt to it or quit complaining i guess.


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transplant wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:34 pm I think its more of kids transferring vs kids being encouraged to come to a school. But yeah, everyone gets transfers, everyone has kids leave. It happens. Adapt to it or quit complaining i guess.
Old heads want it to be 1984 forever. Can't adjust. Can't adapt.


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TigerBob wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:01 pm
wobycat wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:09 pm
TigerBob wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:31 pm

Which Ironton players last year were transfers?
Number 25, 12 and the kicker. I think there were others that transferred in but not sure if they saw significant action but those 3 would start anywhere in our area.
25 didn’t start until 24 went down in playoffs, good player but not a major factor last year, admittedly is a stud this year
12 didn’t start period, was a 4th/5th DB and a 4th WR last year, again not a major factor, starter this year
Kicker is a lifelong Ironton kid who went to St. Joe, used that rule to play, not sure that’s a real “transfer”

There were two “during HS” transfers who saw significant time last year.
30 - Came as a freshman, played for previous staff
20 - Came as a sophomore, played 2 years under Pendleton, family still lives in Ironton

So 5 kids, two backups, 1 Ironton kid who used a very common exception, two starters that were either pre-Pendleton or legitimate moves by the family. The rest of the starters on both sides went to Ironton Elementary. Your “5 or 6 starters per year” comment doesn’t hold water.
It doesn’t matter to me how they got there. The point is they got there and they have made ironton way better. I’ve only seen one ironton fan come on here and admit it. Most of the responses are “burg is throwing stones, and so on”

There’s all kinds of speculation about how some of the kids got there. Maybe they are true, maybe not. But admitting that ironton would be just the same without them isn’t accurate in my opinion.
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