ALL SEOAL?

[Ptown Playmaker]

How did Jason James not make it?????????

Definitely have to agree to that also Ozzie!

[LetsGoPSU]

Does anyone have a link to the full list?

[loganlocos]

I will be announcing the LoganFootball.com All-SEOAL team next week.

[loganlocos]

The all-league team was embargoed until this past Tuesday and now has been announced. Here is a complete list:

Southeastern Ohio Athletic League

2009 All-SEOAL Football Team

South Division

Player, School Pos Ht Wt Gr.

Drew Basil*, Chillicothe PK-P 6-1 191 12

Shay Netter, Chillicothe QB-LB 6-2 237 12

Nate Allison, Gallipolis RB-LB 5-10 185 12

Kyle Dingess, Gallipolis WR-DB 6-3 200 12

Jared Gravely*, Gallipolis FB-LB 6-4 210 12

Sam Cramblit, Ironton OT-DT 6-0 265 12

Erin Edens, Ironton FB-LB 6-1 195 12

Jon Monnig, Ironton WR-DE 6-1 175 12

Robbie Webb, Ironton OT-DT 6-4 250 11

Keith Wetzel, Ironton FB-DB 5-7 195 12

Tres Wilks, Ironton RB-DB 5-7 155 11

Ryan Klingaman, Jackson C-DE 6-1 205 12

Kruize Wandling, Jackson QB-DB 6-0 180 12

Patrick Angle*, Logan QB-LB 6-1 210 12

Mason Mays*, Logan WR-LB 6-0 175 12

T.J. McCray, Logan OT-DT 5-11 280 12

Zach McDaniel, Logan WR-DB 5-11 170 12

Ralph Robinson, Logan G-DE 6-0 200 12

Bobby Russell, Logan C-DT 6-2 250 12

Jordan Rutter, Logan WR-DB 6-0 165 12

Michael Snider, Logan FB-LB 6-0 190 12

Perry Wheeler*, Marietta RB-LB 6-0 190 12

Josh Myers, Portsmouth QB-DB 5-11 175 11

Casey Sanders, Portsmouth OL-DT 6-4 250 11

Tre Underwood, Portsmouth TE-LB 6-4 200 11

Jon Arbuckle, Warren OL-LB 6-0 200 12

Kyle Pritt*, Warren RB-LB 5-10 185 12

Grant Venham, Warren SE-DB 6-3 210 11

Kaleb Wolfe*, Warren RB-LB 6-1 220 12

HONORABLE MENTION

Player, School Pos Ht Wt Gr.

Danny Demick, Chillicothe OL-DL 6-0 272 12

Dylan Osborne, Chillicothe TE-DB-LB 6-0 183 11

Nathaniel Gordon, Gallipolis OL-DL 6-4 300 12

Austin Wilson, Gallipolis WR-DB 5-8 150 11

Ethan Preston, Ironton QB-DB 5-10 160 12

Brian Warner, Ironton RB-LB 6-1 210 11

Ryan Mullins, Jackson WR-DB 5-10 160 12

Kip Winchester, Jackson WR-DB 6-1 170 11

Korey Swaim, Logan WR-DB 5-11 170 12

Ryan Sigler, Logan WR-DE 6-3 190 12

Keifer Johnson, Marietta OL-DL 5-9 281 10

Matt McKitrick, Marietta QB-DB 5-10 163 10

Brennan Howard, Portsmouth OL-DT 6-1 270 11

London Malone, Portsmouth WR-DB 5-9 155 12

Joey Lane, Warren OL-DL 6-1 260 10

Eric Mason, Warren RB-LB 5-11 157 12

North Division Player of the Year (MVP): Patrick Angle, Logan

South Division Player of the Year (MVP): Josh Myers, Portsmouth

Coach of the Year: Dale Amyx, Logan

*—indicates repeat member of team (Allison, Cramblit, Malone and Netter were honorable mention in 2008)

[scanman]

There are many opinions out there as to who should have made the team. In my opinion there are players that are very deserving to be on this team. Can we not be happy for them. Can the players be happy about it . The answer is no because everyone is saying why didn't so and so make the team. There are posts on here that poke at players on the list as not being deserving to be on the team. They do not come out and say it directly but they are inferring it. Do I think some kids were left off that should have been on the team sure i do. But the kids on the team are deserving of being there. They should feel proud of their accomplishments. And we should be proud of them as well.
To the SEOAL team and honorable mention great job on a great season. Be proud

[noreply66]

ALL SEOAL

LEAGUE STANDING AND HOW MANY ALL LEAGUE SELECTIONS



LOGAN 5-0...........(8 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
IRONTON 5-1 ........(6 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
PORTSMOUTH 4-2 ..(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
JACKSON 4-2 ........(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
WARREN 2-3.........(4 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
GALLIA 2-3...........(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
CHILLY 0-6............(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
MARIETTA 0-5........(1 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)

It seems to me that Logan and Ironton were rewarded for their finish as they should and deserved. Portsmouth and Jackson did not get rewarded for their finish as team below them had as many or more selections. And Warren, Gallia, and Chilly were over rewarded for their finish. Now I see where Jackson and Portsmouth have a bit of a grip on the league selections and I'm not from either place. Congrats to all of the young men that made the team and good luck in the future for the seniors.

Chillicothe should have recieved three easy

Netter--Defense
Basil--Specials team
Oates--was Mr. Everything for Chillicothe

[ironman02]

Do I think some kids were left off that should have been on the team sure i do. But the kids on the team are deserving of being there.

I'm not saying that any of the kids who made the team weren't deserving, but Eric Landrum should have been on that team and he wasn't even honorable mention! 29 players on the team...obviously there's no rhyme or reason to that, so why not 30?

I don't know if you were referring to my post, but I wanted to make sure that we're on the same page here. Everyone who made the team is deserving, as I said in my original post. Other kids who were deserving have been left off the team. I know that happens, but I felt like it needed to be said that Eric Landrum should have been on that list. I'm not the only person who watches the SEOAL that thinks so. That's my opinion. It's not meant to take credit from anyone else. If that's what you thought I was doing, then I apologize, but I was pretty sure that I made myself clear.

[Blackjack]

Ironmen02 - did you go and watch the last two games of the season?

[ironman02]

Ironmen02 - did you go and watch the last two games of the season?

You have a PM.

[91blue14]

all league is individual award not a who beat who award.

by position is a legitimate way of doing it. credibilty should be foremost. you cant tap these guys as the best of the league. when they were just pretty much the best on there team

[Auburntgrfan]

Above is was mentioned that Coaches cannot vote for their own players. From my understanding each coach can nominate who he believes is deserving. Then the other coaches have to rate the players and the lowest score is all-league or honorable mention. What rating numbers they use, don't know. I have watched over the past years and seen some, rather unusual choices. I am guessing that each coach votes on his observation when they played each of the other teams. But how could the coaches from for example: Warren, Gallia or Jackson this year vote on the other teams players since they did not play each other. I know this will not be an issue next season since Ironton is out and the SEOAL will go back to playing all league teams. But alas we are only those who wonder how this system works and know it is a flawed system. But the old addage of "We've always done it this way, why change it?" will probably come out somewhere. From a Warren point of view when we were 0-10, 3-7 etc. We only got one or two, this didn't mean that there were not more quality kids that were deserving, but we were always told 0-10 don't get squat, if you want more win, well Warren did win this year and got some more players noticed. While I do have compassion for all the teams that did not get players recognized. From a long suffering Warrior fan, I am happy for our kids. Sorry, I do believe there should be a First team defense and offense by position, a Second team offense and defense and a catagory for specials (punters, place kickers, etc.) as well as honorable mention catagory for those that deserve recognition bu do not fall into the above. Remember I am just some dummy on the street that does not see a problem with recognizing more players. This may be all the accolades they ever receive and it would be something they would hold their head high and be proud of for many years beyond their high school years. Off the soap box now and congrats to all who did make the team and heartfelt condolences to all who deserved recognition and did not get a sniff of it. Can't wait for next August and football season.

[pappy1]

There were a total of 45 players on this years teams.
29 1st team and 16 HM.
6 were QB's!
An all league team with a first and second team by position could have as many as:
12 on the first team offense
12 on the first team defense
12 on the second team offense
12 on the second team defense
For a total of 48 players, plus HM.
Some leagues who use a similiar format allow players to make the team on O & D.
Some leagues only name a player to one or the other.
I would guess that there would still be some complaints about a player being left out.
The biggest complaints would be 1st vs 2nd or HM.
There would be less weight to complaints.
I think a coach not being able to vote for his players is a good idea.
The format the SEOAL uses is not a true all league team.
It is overweight in recognition to the skilled players.

[Auburntgrfan]

pappy1 must agree with you on the amount of skills players. The guys in the trenches seldom get recognition and do the grunt work. Maybe the SEOAL will hear and change someday before we die. Ya think?

[dazed&confused]

Locos will put out his list soon. I like his approach because it lists by position.

[Ptown Playmaker]

Brennan Howard not making first team is a crock and flat out BS!!!!!!!! No disrespect to our other lineman, but Brennan was our dominate lineman and went both ways.........sorry champ.........you didn't get the award you deserved! In my eyes and alot of others, we know you were the anchor.

Congratulations on first team All District today.

[91blue14]

i thought all teams had to be eliminated first?

[noreply66]

Locos is best

[LetsGoPSU]

Looking forward to it!

[TIGERS90]

ALL SEOAL

LEAGUE STANDING AND HOW MANY ALL LEAGUE SELECTIONS



LOGAN 5-0...........(8 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
IRONTON 5-1 ........(6 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
PORTSMOUTH 4-2 ..(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
JACKSON 4-2 ........(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
WARREN 2-3.........(4 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
GALLIA 2-3...........(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
CHILLY 0-6............(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
MARIETTA 0-5........(1 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)

It seems to me that Logan and Ironton were rewarded for their finish as they should and deserved. Portsmouth and Jackson did not get rewarded for their finish as team below them had as many or more selections. And Warren, Gallia, and Chilly were over rewarded for their finish. Now I see where Jackson and Portsmouth have a bit of a grip on the league selections and I'm not from either place. Congrats to all of the young men that made the team and good luck in the future for the seniors.

Chillicothe should have recieved three easy

Netter--Defense
Basil--Specials team
Oates--was Mr. Everything for Chillicothe

Chillicothe was 0-6 in the league...they really don't deserve what they got....

[noreply66]

ALL SEOAL

LEAGUE STANDING AND HOW MANY ALL LEAGUE SELECTIONS



LOGAN 5-0...........(8 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
IRONTON 5-1 ........(6 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
PORTSMOUTH 4-2 ..(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
JACKSON 4-2 ........(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENTION)
WARREN 2-3.........(4 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
GALLIA 2-3...........(3 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
CHILLY 0-6............(2 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)
MARIETTA 0-5........(1 1ST TEAM, 2 HONORABLE MENITON)

It seems to me that Logan and Ironton were rewarded for their finish as they should and deserved. Portsmouth and Jackson did not get rewarded for their finish as team below them had as many or more selections. And Warren, Gallia, and Chilly were over rewarded for their finish. Now I see where Jackson and Portsmouth have a bit of a grip on the league selections and I'm not from either place. Congrats to all of the young men that made the team and good luck in the future for the seniors.

Chillicothe should have recieved three easy

Netter--Defense
Basil--Specials team
Oates--was Mr. Everything for Chillicothe

Chillicothe was 0-6 in the league...they really don't deserve what they got....

LoganLocos All/SEOAL team is much better and lets you know more about teams talent