Your schools best team(s) ever!

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For NY, I think these are the six best teams all-time (in no particular order):

1981 - 13-0 State Champions
1982 - 11-1 Regional Champions
1992 - 10-1 Regional Semifinals, but had one of the best D's of all time (see below)
1994 - 11-1 Regional Runner Up
1997 - 11-1 Regional Runner Up
2017 - 13-1 Regional Champions

1981 13-0 (6-0) TVC = Division IV State Champions
Crooksville 8-0
@ Wellston 32-15
Logan 40-0
Miller 41-0
@ Alexander* 50-6
@ Warren* 34-13
Belpre* 28-0
@ Federal Hocking* 38-0
Vinton County* 52-0
@ Trimble* 40-12
# Coal Grove @ Ironton 14-12 (Division IV Regional Championship)
# Wheelersburg @ Ironton 14-0 (Division IV State Semifinals)
# Otsego @ Groveport-Madison 34-16 (Division IV State Championship)


1982 11-1 (7-0) TVC
@ Crooksville 14-6
@ Miller 45-0
@ Logan 35-13
Wellston* 41-0
Alexander* 58-0
Warren* 14-6
@ Belpre* 18-13
Federal Hocking* 63-0
@ Vinton County* 51-0
Trimble* 28-12
# Crooksville @ Lancaster 20-13 (Division IV Regional Championship)
# West Jefferson @ Lancaster 14-22 (Division IV State Semifinals)

1992 10-1 (8-0) TVC
@ Athens 35-0
Logan 33-7
@ Meigs* 29-0
Alexander* 34-0
@ Miller* 34-0
@ Vinton County* 41-7
Federal Hocking* 41-0
@ Belpre* 34-0
Wellston* 27-0
Trimble* 34-14
# Ironton @ Portsmouth 0-14 (Division III Regional Semifinals)

1994 11-1 (4-0) TVC OHIO
@ Athens 28-0
Logan 20-19
@ Portsmouth West 16-6
Alexander 48-14
Trimble 58-0
@ Vinton County* 26-21
@ Meigs* 43-6
Wellston* 41-3
@ Belpre* 47-6
@ Jackson 48-7
# Coshocton @ Zanesville 41-6 (Division IV Regional Semifinals)
# Wheelersburg @ Portsmouth 7-28 (Division IV Regional Finals)

1997 11-1 (5-0) TVC OHIO
Athens 48-7
@ Logan 27-17
@ Coal Grove 20-13
@ Miller 13-0
@ Trimble 54-0
Vinton County* 20-12
Meigs* 30-0
@ Wellston* 39-20
Belpre* 13-3
@ Alexander* 41-0
# Wheelersburg @ Lancaster 41-14 (Division IV Regional Semifinals)
# Bellaire @ Zanesville 6-39 (Division IV Regional Finals)


2017 13-1 (6-0) TVC OHIO
@ Trimble 21-0
@ Newark Catholic 21-14
Minford 50-33
River Valley* 49-7
Waverly 38-13
@ Meigs* 49-14
Wellston* 34-2
@ Alexander* 35-0
Vinton County* 27-24
@ Athens* 52-26
# Shadyside @ Nelsonville-York 34-0 (Division VI Regional Quarterfinals)
# Fort Frye @ New Lexington 26-20 OT (Division VI Regional Semifinals)
# Coal Grove @ Jackson 28-7 (Division VI Regional Finals)
# Kirtland @ New Philadelphia 0-44 (Division VI State Semifinals)


Outcomes of the one team NY lost to each of these seasons:

1981 - NA - NY finished the season as undefeated state champions.

1982 - West Jefferson won the state championship the following week by defeating Archbold 6-0. Final record for West Jefferson = 13-0.

1992 - Ironton finished state runner up and lost to Mentor Lake Catholic 31-7 in the state championship game. Final record for Ironton = 13-1. NY held Ironton to only 14 points, the fewest of every team Ironton played that season except for Mentor Lake Catholic. NY had seven shutouts, gave up seven points twice and gave up 14 points twice in the 11 games played.

1994 - Wheelersburg lost to Germantown Valley View the following week in the state semifinals 24-7. Final record for Wheelersburg = 10-2.

1997 - Bellaire lost to Germantown Valley View the following week in the state semifinals 27-19. Final record for Bellaire = 12-1.

2017 - Kirtland lost to Maria Stein Marion Local the following week in the state championship game 34-11. Final record for Kirtland = 14-1.


Computer points for NY during each of these seasons:

1981 - Division 4 Region 15 (5 Divisions at the time, only the top two teams qualified for the playoffs)
1. Coal Grove Dawson-Bryant = 80.4722
2. Nelsonville-York = 78.7778

3. Toronto = 75.9507
4. Cadiz = 69.3889
5. Johnstown-Monroe = 56.5000
6. Fredericktown = 54.2500
7. Byesville Meadowbrook = 49.1250
8. Hanoverton United = 41.5278



1982 - Division 4 Region 15 (5 Divisions at the time, only the top two teams qualified for the playoffs)
1. Nelsonville-York 99.5000
2. Crooksville 88.7500

3. Coal Grove Dawson-Bryant 61.8703
4. Cadiz 61.2917
5. Lancaster Fairfield Union 58.0000
6. Glouster Trimble 53.8750
7. Procterville Fairland 53.3056
8. Caldwell 43.2500


1992 - Division 3 Region 11 (5 Divisions at the time, only the top four teams qualified for the playoffs - matchups based on location of schools/playoff game location, not seeds)
1. Ironton 157.5000
2. Thornville Sheridan 145.5000
3. Nelsonville-York 130.5554
4. Uhrichsville Claymont 128.0000

5. Bellaire 127.5000
6. Waverly 114.3888
7. Newark Licking Valley 102.8333
8. New Concord John Glenn 101.5000


1994 - Division 4 Region 15 (6 Divisions at this time, only the top four teams qualified for the playoffs - matchups based on location of schools/playoff game location, not seeds)
1. Amanda-Clearcreek 28.5500
2. Nelsonville-York 26.1000
3. Coshocton 25.4500
4. Wheelersburg 24.0000

5. Newark Licking Valley 20.4500
6. Proctorville Fairland 19.0000
7. Martins Ferry 17.7500
8. Zoarville Tuscarawas Valley 15.8500


1997 - Division 4 Region 15 (6 Divisions at this time, only the top four teams qualified for the playoffs - matchups based on location of schools/playoff game location, not seeds)
1. Nelsonville-York 26.1820
2. Bellaire - 25.2530
3. Wheelersburg - 21.8830
4. Piketon - 19.6500

5. Portsmouth - 18.8886
6. Ironton - 18.6870
7. Granville - 18.0500
8. Martins Ferry - 17.6500



2017 - Division 6, Region 23 (7 Divisions at this time, top eight teams qualified for the playoffs - matchups based on seeding)
1. Nelsonville-York 26.1000
2. Chillicothe Southeastern 21.6500
3. Coal Grove Dawson-Bryant 19.8081
4. Beverly Fort Frye 19.2000
5. Galion Northmor 18.7000
6. Sarahsville Shenandoah 14.8357
7. Steubenville Catholic Central 14.183
8. Shadyside 13.7214


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Re: Your schools best team(s) ever!

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NYBuckeye96 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:28 pm For NY, I think these are the six best teams all-time (in no particular order):

1981 - 13-0 State Champions
1982 - 11-1 Regional Champions
1992 - 10-1 Regional Semifinals, but had one of the best D's of all time (see below)
1994 - 11-1 Regional Runner Up
1997 - 11-1 Regional Runner Up
2017 - 13-1 Regional Champions
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In terms of overall finishes yea I would agree with this 100%


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purpleblood1 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
avalanche wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:25 pm
ChesapeakeFan wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:01 pm Peake’s 2011 and 2016 teams were pretty nice
They were above average.

Chesapeake 1999 team went 11-1, with an undefeated regular season. They eventually lost to Amanda, who would win the state title. The 2000 team went 8-2 with both of their losses coming by a combined 3 points (Wayne state runner up, and Minford D4 playoffs).

2002 team went to the regional finals, again before falling to Amanda.
Best team Chesapeake every had was the Sonny Stowers led 1960 teams. Second best was '75 team led by Kevin Rice and Randy Bone. If the state took as many teams as they take nowadays the '75 teams would have went easily. They lost 2 games late then bounced back against CG to finish 8-2 and received votes in the final Class A writers poll after getting as high as 6th in the state.
I am not at all disrespecting the 1960 team, but how can you even compare the two (99 team). As we all know, athletes have only gotten bigger, faster, stronger, etc. Stowers is a legend, but the 99 team featured Josh Waugh (D5 offensive player of the year) and Robbie Issacs (1st team all-state, Marshall WR), along with other really good players. Can you imagine the offensive line differences in 1960 v 1999? Robbie Issacs was a 10.7 100m state champion, someone really going to cover him? Stowers was 175 pounds in high school. He played at 195 as a linebacker in college.

In my heart of hearts I can't say lined up toe-to-toe the 1960 team would be within 3 touchdowns of the 99 team. The game has evolved so much in that time. After the 60 and 99 team, honestly we are comparing all like things essentially. I love Kevin Rice, but he was 5'7, 145 in high school. Comparing era's becomes so complicated, but saying a 1975 8-2 team v a 99 10-0 team is better, while one featured two divison 1 players, and along with four all-state players on the roster, is hard to swallow that they were better.


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The football history has not been all that kind to Green, but both the 1989 and the 1990 teams would certainly top the list.

The 1989 team went 10 and 0 and qualified 3rd in Division 5 Region 19. The Bobcats defeated Trimble in the opening round of the playoffs 43-22. The Bobcats fell to Shadyside in Round 2 21 to 7.

In 1990, the Bobcats again finished 10 and 0 and were the Number 1 seed in Sivision 5 Region 19 (#8 Ap Poll).

The Bobcats defeated Caldwell 28 to 21 in the First Round of the 1990 playoffs. Green fell in the Regional Finals the following week to Newark Catholic 21 to 7.


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avalanche wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:00 pm
purpleblood1 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
avalanche wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:25 pm

They were above average.

Chesapeake 1999 team went 11-1, with an undefeated regular season. They eventually lost to Amanda, who would win the state title. The 2000 team went 8-2 with both of their losses coming by a combined 3 points (Wayne state runner up, and Minford D4 playoffs).

2002 team went to the regional finals, again before falling to Amanda.
Best team Chesapeake every had was the Sonny Stowers led 1960 teams. Second best was '75 team led by Kevin Rice and Randy Bone. If the state took as many teams as they take nowadays the '75 teams would have went easily. They lost 2 games late then bounced back against CG to finish 8-2 and received votes in the final Class A writers poll after getting as high as 6th in the state.
I am not at all disrespecting the 1960 team, but how can you even compare the two (99 team). As we all know, athletes have only gotten bigger, faster, stronger, etc. Stowers is a legend, but the 99 team featured Josh Waugh (D5 offensive player of the year) and Robbie Issacs (1st team all-state, Marshall WR), along with other really good players. Can you imagine the offensive line differences in 1960 v 1999? Robbie Issacs was a 10.7 100m state champion, someone really going to cover him? Stowers was 175 pounds in high school. He played at 195 as a linebacker in college.

In my heart of hearts I can't say lined up toe-to-toe the 1960 team would be within 3 touchdowns of the 99 team. The game has evolved so much in that time. After the 60 and 99 team, honestly we are comparing all like things essentially. I love Kevin Rice, but he was 5'7, 145 in high school. Comparing era's becomes so complicated, but saying a 1975 8-2 team v a 99 10-0 team is better, while one featured two divison 1 players, and along with four all-state players on the roster, is hard to swallow that they were better.
Actually if you want to compare D1 players then the '60 teams blows all others away. Besides Stowers that went to Navy, there were for others who were scheduled to go to D1 schools. But, due to family commitments and injuries they ended up not going. As for Kevin he was not 5'7" 145lb I think you are thinking of Aaron.


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purpleblood1 wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 4:51 pm
avalanche wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:00 pm
purpleblood1 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm

Best team Chesapeake every had was the Sonny Stowers led 1960 teams. Second best was '75 team led by Kevin Rice and Randy Bone. If the state took as many teams as they take nowadays the '75 teams would have went easily. They lost 2 games late then bounced back against CG to finish 8-2 and received votes in the final Class A writers poll after getting as high as 6th in the state.
I am not at all disrespecting the 1960 team, but how can you even compare the two (99 team). As we all know, athletes have only gotten bigger, faster, stronger, etc. Stowers is a legend, but the 99 team featured Josh Waugh (D5 offensive player of the year) and Robbie Issacs (1st team all-state, Marshall WR), along with other really good players. Can you imagine the offensive line differences in 1960 v 1999? Robbie Issacs was a 10.7 100m state champion, someone really going to cover him? Stowers was 175 pounds in high school. He played at 195 as a linebacker in college.

In my heart of hearts I can't say lined up toe-to-toe the 1960 team would be within 3 touchdowns of the 99 team. The game has evolved so much in that time. After the 60 and 99 team, honestly we are comparing all like things essentially. I love Kevin Rice, but he was 5'7, 145 in high school. Comparing era's becomes so complicated, but saying a 1975 8-2 team v a 99 10-0 team is better, while one featured two divison 1 players, and along with four all-state players on the roster, is hard to swallow that they were better.
Actually if you want to compare D1 players then the '60 teams blows all others away. Besides Stowers that went to Navy, there were for others who were scheduled to go to D1 schools. But, due to family commitments and injuries they ended up not going. As for Kevin he was not 5'7" 145lb I think you are thinking of Aaron.
We can agree to disagree.

Athletes are bigger, stronger, faster today than 1960. I respect how difficult it is to go undefeated, and that's an accomplishment that can't be taken away. Comparing teams generations apart is near impossible. If you don't include the 99 team, and you do a two loss team, I am not sure what to tell you. The 99 team lost a single game, to the state champion, and knocked off the #3 team in the state the first round. They were really good, and featured a lineup that will include at some point probably 4-5 hall of fame players at Chesapeake (Issacs is in, Waugh will be, Clark will be, Mike Hunt goes in this year with his brother and dad). The football program from 96-06 was the best decade ever at Chesapeake. TO not include a single team from that decade is honestly a bit disrespectful.

How would the 60 team cover Issacs? Seriously? How would they deal with the speed? Would the 60 team attempt a pass?


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Joey Burrow led Athens Bulldogs was the best team to ever play in southern Ohio. No debate needed


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Larry Fine wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 4:39 pm Joey Burrow led Athens Bulldogs was the best team to ever play in southern Ohio. No debate needed
Best Offense, 10000% agree


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meatswinger wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:58 pm
Rebel Yell wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:34 pm
ravensfan09 wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Coach James is a class act! A tremendous person and mentor to young people. It's a shame that some on this site want to constantly bash coaches and players, but what else are you to do if you are a jerk. Coach James invested his life to young people as do a lot of coaches. He doesn't want your pat on the back, even though he deserves it, but all he asks is to be respected. He has earned that!

Btw....I did notice he signed his post with his name.

Much respect Coach!
Jack James for the Hall of Fame!
Yes I agree, Jack James should be in the hall of fame.
He is in the hall of fame isn't he?


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Rebel Yell wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:26 pm
meatswinger wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:58 pm
Rebel Yell wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:34 pm

Jack James for the Hall of Fame!
Yes I agree, Jack James should be in the hall of fame.
He is in the hall of fame isn't he?
Surely.


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