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In general - no doubt you are safer walking down a street in small towns as opposed to big cities. There are exceptions, though. Regarding murder rates, there is a misperception, though. Many red states have high murder rates. But, it's because of the large blue cities in those states. Don't try to ...

“ If they are northern ohio good the it will be lights out for Ironton just like it is every time they play up there.”

Not for me & my boys in ‘79...

The burg lucked out on their tournament pairings. They somehow, miraculously, didn't have to play Kirtland or a MAC school. They would have been blown out otherwise.

yabba, that was an irrational post. Just about any Ironton team the last few years would have walked through that string of playoff games. You played NOT ONE traditional state power - not one. And no way you beat a solid MAC school that year or Kirtland. And you burgers are so arrogant and delusiona...

I stand by everything I said. You refuted NOTHING from my post. Winning the state is not the only measure of success. And how many burg teams would've been as successful were it not for kids from South Webster, Green, Portsmouth, Ironton, Ashland, etc. ? Transfers have indeed helped. But, we've sent...

In terms of Ohio high school football, Ironton is much more historically relevant than burg...not even close. And - since you burgers are saying that success can ONLY be measured in terms of state titles - this means that no one can ever again brag about conference championships, playoff appearances...

If they would've played a MAC team or Kirtland, the burg wouldn't have won in '17. That title should have an asterisk beside it. VERY lucky...

Forgive my ignorance, but who/what is 'JG" ?

The St. Joe years were maybe even more impressive, considering how small the school was, yet still winning like he did. I just disagree with your assessment. Maybe I'm biased - having played for Lutz. But, Lutz did what he did with way less talent than Pendleton has had. Unfortunately, the Tigers ha...

There are other variables to consider. In his first 5 years, Lutz made it to one final - and made the playoffs one other time. Everything was more difficult back then. There were literally 12 teams in the entire state that made the playoffs (4 from A, AA, and AAA). If today's playoffs and classifica...

Since it's a burg thread, I'll start by saying that I think they are the best-coached team in southern Ohio. I think it's probably true that - given Ironton's team - the burg staff might have won a state title or two by now. And, while they rarely have D1 talent, burg kids are always talented and di...

Stupid AND true ???????? I just showed you Ironton boys are still thriving.

" They ain’t gonna let the real Ironton boys do anything." Stupid comment... Real Ironton boys include Carrico, Duncan, Carter, Barnes, Carpenter, Hacker, and others playing college ball. Ironton still has more home-grown talent than anyone in southeast Ohio. Would they be as good the last...

Ironton CB number is 20...burg is 19. Twist it all you want. That's not much of a difference.

Been off the board for a while... 1) For the record, Ironton has definitely benefitted more than burg from transfers & out-of-district kids the last 3 years or so. 2) I don't think burg coaches recruit. One burg poster did say earlier that burg folks do "encourage" out-of-district kids...

I don't think that many RH kids are at Ironton right now. But, in regards to this conversation, I'd say that's irrelevant. Meaning... I would admit they're not homegrown. I'm not even ripping on the burg. Honestly, in today's high school football scene, you'd be foolish to not accept these kids (the...

Still in denial... those aren't "burg kids".

First off - an admission... I'm not a huge fan of all the transfers to Ironton. When I played, we had ALL Ironton boys. But, to those saying we couldn't win without them - you are wrong. We wouldn't be as talented, but with good coaching, we'd still win. Carpenter, Carter, Barnes, Gossett, Duncan, e...

I know burg fans chime in on this to make themselves feel better about their program - kidding themselves into thinking it's all internal talent. I've talked to several people about this over the years. We usually enjoy a laugh about the inability of burgers to see the obvious. I'm going to try to n...

Again, agree to disagree. It's irrelevant when they come in and from how far away, in my opinion. They are either born and bred in district or not. If a kid lives in South Webster, Minford, etc. and goes to the burg, that simply is not a burg kid. Move on. You're not giving ground and neither am I. ...