2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

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Will they get out of the basement this season ?


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I think they can over take the Brewers, but they'll have to be more consistent.


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Hey ! I agree ! That's a first !


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Bruce batting .171 wow Frazier 31 HRs but only batting .210 wow !


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According to Game Score, Bailey had the best start for a Red last night. 6 shutout innings, 11K and 1BB.


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Don't care how or who plays great just get the "W"


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The Leake deal is also looking better and better every time Leake goes out to pitch. He logs innings and doesn't walk people, those are the positives that you can say about him this year. Bottom 5 in the NL in hits, runs, and ERA.

This post will likely come back to bite me as a Cubs fan since he pitches tomorrow and has dominated them throughout his career, but I'm glad he went to the Cards this offseason.


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Bailey has looked pretty strong since his return, liking what I'm seeing.


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Votto

Last 60 games: .377/.506/.589/1.095
Since AS Break: .462/.560/.692/1.252

He's up to .301 on the year. That dude is insane.


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Straily is pitching well for the Reds !


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They are smashing the Brewers in this series.


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You set all winter waiting for Reds baseball and this happens ! WOW Reed needs to get rid of them Rockie and Bullwinkle glasses ! LOL Price has got to go.


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No 500 season!


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Votto.... Is he worth 225 million over 10 seasons? 22.5 per year. $138K per game if he played every game.
Awesome with the bat. Not great at first base. Bonehead base runner.


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TVC wrote:Votto.... Is he worth 225 million over 10 seasons? 22.5 per year. $138K per game if he played every game.
Awesome with the bat. Not great at first base. Bonehead base runner.

Technically, yes he is worth it. It is really hard to say that anyone is truly worth that much money, especially when the team is losing...but, he's doing his part. Mike Trout is worth way more money than whatever he's being paid and the Angels are terrible. Trout's deal is $144.5 over 6 and he's valued at $331 million so far in his career.

Votto's free agent market value is over $30 million per year, so he's worth it. But, like you said, he's okay defensively and not a very good baserunner, add that with the team being bad, I can totally understand it seeming like a bad contract. Which, it could end up being a bad contract in the end, but it hasn't been yet. It's a lot of money committed on the backend of the deal for sure.

I'll even throw this out as someone who has been very hard on Brandon Phillips and his contract, he has also performed above the value of his contract, especially last season.

To be completely technical, it is pretty easy for a player to perform slightly above value (non example, in 2011, Phillips played 4x his contract), but the Reds only have 10 players who have performed over their contract this year. For comparisons sake, the Cubs have 21 players who have outplayed their contracts for the year, according to their FMV.

I'll probably hate myself for this post later, lol.


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If he's worth that much trade him


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bighead wrote:If he's worth that much trade him
Why would you want to trade him?


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Not going there ! Just don't believe he is the one to lead the Reds to the big game !JMO


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"W"


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Bailey pitched well again, now has done so in 3 of 4 starts. Has a 3.66 ERA as of now and if you take out his rocky start, he's only allowed 3 ER in 16 2/3 innings.


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