Three things that happened at OU today

[Raider6309]

Border patrol said they need a wall or a double metal fence. Its kind of laughable we don't have a wall in 2016. Heroin comes from Mexico. Steroids come from the middle east through the us mail. Crack comes from below the border. Oxy comes from Portsmouth

[Raider6309]

But let me clear, most Young people don't share these beliefs. Black lives matter, gays bashing Christians, and feminist hating males are secular groups. Most Young people can't stand these groups but the left has put these in bubble.

[dazed&confused]

Geez I thought people my age were the ones who should be shouting, "Get off my lawn!"

[Raider6309]

Geez I thought people my age were the ones who should be shouting, "Get off my lawn!"

Your generation doesn't understand regressive vs progressive

[Raider6309]

[NYBuckeye96]

Abe, I have a question for you. I totally understand where you are coming from when you talk about your daughter's safety in a restroom. Theoretically, a man could just dress up as a woman for the purposes of taking advantage of minors in restrooms even though that man is in no way a member of the transgender community.

But just to play devils advocate here.........let's say a person is born a woman and lives as a man. She/He had surgery to become a man, grows a beard, etc. etc. etc. If the law says that this person must use the restroom based on the gender at birth, this person would have to be in the same restroom as your daughter based on these laws. Now if you see this transgendered man enter the woman's restroom, how will you know the sex at birth? By the law, this person entered the correct restroom that the state says she/he was supposed to use.

No matter what the law is, people that appear to be men will be entering women's restrooms and people that appear to be women will be entering men's restrooms. Either by choice or by law.

[Runner]

And when this happens, and when (NOT IF) a child gets molested or a woman gets raped, I REALLY hope that they are a family member of the ones that passed the restroom law. After all, it's what they seem to want to see happen to them. So they might as well be the first ones to feel the pain from there moronic idea.

[Abe Froman]

Abe, I have a question for you. I totally understand where you are coming from when you talk about your daughter's safety in a restroom. Theoretically, a man could just dress up as a woman for the purposes of taking advantage of minors in restrooms even though that man is in no way a member of the transgender community.

But just to play devils advocate here.........let's say a person is born a woman and lives as a man. She/He had surgery to become a man, grows a beard, etc. etc. etc. If the law says that this person must use the restroom based on the gender at birth, this person would have to be in the same restroom as your daughter based on these laws. Now if you see this transgendered man enter the woman's restroom, how will you know the sex at birth? By the law, this person entered the correct restroom that the state says she/he was supposed to use.

No matter what the law is, people that appear to be men will be entering women's restrooms and people that appear to be women will be entering men's restrooms. Either by choice or by law.

A lot of hypothetical scenarios can probably be thrown NY96, so to make it simple I probably would just say if you stand to pee use the Men's Restroom no matter if you are in a dress or wig or whatever and if you sit to pee just go to the Ladies' Restroom. I am going to say we don't need a third RR alternative and we shouldn't be spending taxpayers dollars to accommodate what has to be less than 1% of the population.

Baffled at what we focus on as pressing issues sometimes, but I am getting old.

[Abe Froman]

Since you like Patton d&c, here is sort of a war analogy for you.

In less than two months (June 6th), will be the anniversary of the Invasion of Normandy, where thousands of 18-year olds via the selective service and/or as volunteers stormed the beach. I bet they didn't feel safe.

Let's make sure some graffiti written on a wall doesn't make someone feel unsafe today, and let's have some emergency meetings and let the President of OU lecture us on what is right and wrong.

[Tigercannon71]

Abe, I have a question for you. I totally understand where you are coming from when you talk about your daughter's safety in a restroom. Theoretically, a man could just dress up as a woman for the purposes of taking advantage of minors in restrooms even though that man is in no way a member of the transgender community.

But just to play devils advocate here.........let's say a person is born a woman and lives as a man. She/He had surgery to become a man, grows a beard, etc. etc. etc. If the law says that this person must use the restroom based on the gender at birth, this person would have to be in the same restroom as your daughter based on these laws. Now if you see this transgendered man enter the woman's restroom, how will you know the sex at birth? By the law, this person entered the correct restroom that the state says she/he was supposed to use.

No matter what the law is, people that appear to be men will be entering women's restrooms and people that appear to be women will be entering men's restrooms. Either by choice or by law.

A lot of hypothetical scenarios can probably be thrown NY96, so to make it simple I probably would just say if you stand to pee use the Men's Restroom no matter if you are in a dress or wig or whatever and if you sit to pee just go to the Ladies' Restroom. I am going to say we don't need a third RR alternative and we shouldn't be spending taxpayers dollars to accommodate what has to be less than 1% of the population.

Baffled at what we focus on as pressing issues sometimes, but I am getting old.

Abe, your answer is wrong , because it uses two things the liberals on this site and in the world dont understand: Logic and Common Sense. Liberals dont understand the meaning to those words so your simple and effective answer will go right over their heads.

[noreply66]

If we need a third are we sort of saying someone has something to hide?

[dazed&confused]

Since you like Patton d&c, here is sort of a war analogy for you.

In less than two months (June 6th), will be the anniversary of the Invasion of Normandy, where thousands of 18-year olds via the selective service and/or as volunteers stormed the beach. I bet they didn't feel safe.

Let's make sure some graffiti written on a wall doesn't make someone feel unsafe today, and let's have some emergency meetings and let the President of OU lecture us on what is right and wrong.

Abe, I just used the Patton quote to demonstrate the futility in saying a huge, fixed wall is going to stop desperate people. But that's OK. My dad was an 18 year old in the Pacific. He didn't want to go but it was his duty and he was proud of his service. He would tell you (if he was here today) that one of the reasons he fought was so our society would be a civilized one, free from un wanted intimidation. He fought so the Rising Sun wouldn't be a symbol of oppression. Tell me that painting "build the wall" isn't supposed to intimidate and oppress Hispanics. Sure it seems innocent enough to most of us. Just like Jim Crow laws were in the 50's and 60's. Make America Great Again, right?

[Raider6309]

Democrats also want black and white bathrooms

[Raider6309]

Abe, I just used the Patton quote to demonstrate the futility in saying a huge, fixed wall is going to stop desperate people. But that's OK. My dad was an 18 year old in the Pacific. He didn't want to go but it was his duty and he was proud of his service. He would tell you (if he was here today) that one of the reasons he fought was so our society would be a civilized one, free from un wanted intimidation. He fought so the Rising Sun wouldn't be a symbol of oppression. Tell me that painting "build the wall" isn't supposed to intimidate and oppress Hispanics. Sure it seems innocent enough to most of us. Just like Jim Crow laws were in the 50's and 60's. Make America Great Again, right?

Has nothing to do with Mexicans. It's someone trolling these stupid people. Its funny. It's like if you have an OCD coworker. They have to have everything in order. Of course you change the order. Because it's funny

[Abe Froman]

Abe, I just used the Patton quote to demonstrate the futility in saying a huge, fixed wall is going to stop desperate people. But that's OK. My dad was an 18 year old in the Pacific. He didn't want to go but it was his duty and he was proud of his service. He would tell you (if he was here today) that one of the reasons he fought was so our society would be a civilized one, free from un wanted intimidation. He fought so the Rising Sun wouldn't be a symbol of oppression. Tell me that painting "build the wall" isn't supposed to intimidate and oppress Hispanics. Sure it seems innocent enough to most of us. Just like Jim Crow laws were in the 50's and 60's. Make America Great Again, right?

I can tell you that painting "Build the Wall" should not intimidate any Hispanic that is set on legally gaining entry into the USA, no problem telling you that any legal entry into our great country would not intimidate any person. Would it intimidate someone wanting to come in illegally? No idea but perhaps.

If you had taken the time to read any of my posts I am not a Trump guy per se, and furthermore I have indicated I am not necessarily a proponent of a "yuge" wall. I think you could enforce the border laws more effectively and more economically by technology, drones, etc. than a brick and mortar wall. But honestly that is not the point.

Build the wall = Enforce the laws. Anyone opposed to obeying the laws should feel intimidated that is the point.

Communism is control of man by force. Socialism is control of man by vote. There is no difference except one is murder and one is suicide. Said a very good author once upon a time. Keep drifting toward this abyss of awww shucks let's make everyone feel safe, good, and give away the farm and we will no longer be a relevant country.

[Abe Froman]

The script from "The Newsroom" with Jeff Daniels as the actor.


There are some things you should know, and one of them is that there is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, twenty-seventh in math, twenty-second in science, forty-ninth in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labor force, and number four in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next twenty-six countries combined, twenty-five of whom are allies. None of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you, nonetheless, are without a doubt, a member of the WORST-period-GENERATION-period-EVER-period, so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the %^$# you're talking about?!

We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right! We fought for moral reasons, we passed and struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were, and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, and we acted like men. We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it; it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election, and we didn't scare so easy. And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered. The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one—America is not the greatest country in the world anymore.


Now that is two paragraphs of truth, no matter your political persuasion it is simple and factual...but let's concentrate on transgender bathrooms and if someone doesn't feel safe if they read some graffiti or whatever the next dumb thing is...please. We have lost our way because of this nonsense.

[dazed&confused]

America is not a serial drama. I would still take America over any country on Earth. I am a child of the 60's and 70's Abe. Always question authority. I don't have all the answers and am deeply suspicious of anyone who claims they do.

[Paladin]

I read Abe's comments at the Washington Post on topics and he sure sounds like a D.

[Paladin]

BTW, the "transgender" issue was settled but the Neanderthals insist on making it a "war", just like the phony war on Christmas, praying in school, etc. No one stops anyone from practicing their religion at home or in church but trying to use the govt to promote publically any religion and wrists get slapped. Just a big mountain out of a molehill. And another stupid wedge issue to divert attention from the major issues of the day ....... economic justice, jobs, healthcare, etc

[Abe Froman]

America is not a serial drama. I would still take America over any country on Earth. I am a child of the 60's and 70's Abe. Always question authority. I don't have all the answers and am deeply suspicious of anyone who claims they do.

America is not a serial drama? I agree it should not be, but consider the following:

4,500 students attending public universities in 35 states were polled on the following type questions. How many senators are there in the U.S.. What month does America vote for President in and how often does that take place? What song is the national anthem? What is the first and last sentence or stanza in the national anthem? And 5-6 more along those lines. They were then asked questions about The Kardashians reality show and some other MTV reality shows, etc.. My recollection is there were 8 questions a piece each way.

The result is astonishing in that net results was these 4,500 students scored 60% higher on the "serial drama" questions, averaging something like 4 more correct answers on the reality shows than on basic, and I mean basic national questions.

So you be the judge d&c...maybe America is becoming a serial drama.

You can question authority, indeed I often do myself, but take of your 1960's rose colored glasses my friend...cause this "ain't" the same America that this country's greatest generation fought for and defended. No one has all the right answers least of all little ole me, an ironworker turned entrepreneur, but I do know when you headed in a wrong direction to stop, gather yourself, and make a wiser choice.

Question is which choice is wise.