SVC 2017

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Re: SVC 2017

Post by se-alum » Tue May 30, 2017 1:58 pm

Watson40 wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 10:33 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Sat May 20, 2017 4:38 pm
mrwonderful wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 6:23 pm
Crashdavis if you've been around sports much, especially Baseball, you know comparing scores doesn't mean squat. Those 2 teams you mentioned are probably not the best 2 teams in the OVC. Yeah they won but a couple plays here or there and u have 2 different teams at top I can't believe Gallia tied for 1st. My god Fairland beat Gallia and they are very weak.... The top 5 teams in the OVC would play with any SVC school...Coal Grove is not a very good defensive team but have a couple decent pitchers....I've watched almost all those SVC teams and none of them are dominate.... We'll find out shortly who does what but the OVC is every bit as good as SVC this year... I bet Portsmouth who finished 6th in OVC and is an 11 seed wins their 1st game.....
3rd place (SVC) beats OVC Champ 6-2, while Adena shuts out the other OVC opponent.

I'm sorry, but the level of baseball isn't even comparable. Since 2010, the SVC has won 19 District level games in D3 alone (Unioto has won 5 in D2) while the OVC has won 3. If we include the entirity of the SEODAB website, it is even worse, 32-5 would be the score in District games won :o
Do you guys know why the SVC is so dominant? This is my opinion but will be hard to argue with. Scioto valley youth league. Period. All these stars in the SVC have all played for home team svyl. Even the young guys that are playing as freshmen and sophomores have built their skills at svyl. I am not sure that continues because there has been a small exodus to travel ball. Svyl had moved to call ripken. I am not sure which level, but there are 2 within cal ripken. One is played like OHSAA ball with 90 foot basepath, steals and pick off moves. The other is smaller with no lead offs. Well svyl, I believe, expanded the base path to 90 feet but does not allow steals until the full count. At least that is how it was a few years ago. So people are heading out to get the whole experience.

But as a whole, svyl is probably the most competitive league in Ohio. Teams are formed at coach pitch and they stay together through A ball. They can cut kids and only take the best talent anyway. The rest play elsewhere. But the majority of these kids are from areas surrounding Chillicothe. Zane trace, southeastern, adena and so on.

Just an opinion. Any thoughts?
SVYL A ball you can steal on the pitchers release. They refuse to allow leading off, which makes zero sense. A lot of these kids go out and travel over the summer, and are unfortunately deficient in the areas of leading off, stealing, and holding runners compared to the travel teams they come up against in some of these summer tournaments. Now, when they play other rec tournaments, they are pretty dominant from the 8U level through 12U.



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Re: SVC 2017

Post by Watson40 » Tue May 30, 2017 3:22 pm

se-alum wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 1:58 pm
Watson40 wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 10:33 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Sat May 20, 2017 4:38 pm


3rd place (SVC) beats OVC Champ 6-2, while Adena shuts out the other OVC opponent.

I'm sorry, but the level of baseball isn't even comparable. Since 2010, the SVC has won 19 District level games in D3 alone (Unioto has won 5 in D2) while the OVC has won 3. If we include the entirity of the SEODAB website, it is even worse, 32-5 would be the score in District games won :o
Do you guys know why the SVC is so dominant? This is my opinion but will be hard to argue with. Scioto valley youth league. Period. All these stars in the SVC have all played for home team svyl. Even the young guys that are playing as freshmen and sophomores have built their skills at svyl. I am not sure that continues because there has been a small exodus to travel ball. Svyl had moved to call ripken. I am not sure which level, but there are 2 within cal ripken. One is played like OHSAA ball with 90 foot basepath, steals and pick off moves. The other is smaller with no lead offs. Well svyl, I believe, expanded the base path to 90 feet but does not allow steals until the full count. At least that is how it was a few years ago. So people are heading out to get the whole experience.

But as a whole, svyl is probably the most competitive league in Ohio. Teams are formed at coach pitch and they stay together through A ball. They can cut kids and only take the best talent anyway. The rest play elsewhere. But the majority of these kids are from areas surrounding Chillicothe. Zane trace, southeastern, adena and so on.

Just an opinion. Any thoughts?
SVYL A ball you can steal on the pitchers release. They refuse to allow leading off, which makes zero sense. A lot of these kids go out and travel over the summer, and are unfortunately deficient in the areas of leading off, stealing, and holding runners compared to the travel teams they come up against in some of these summer tournaments. Now, when they play other rec tournaments, they are pretty dominant from the 8U level through 12U.
Yea. Seems like it used to be as it crossed the plate. With the shorter base path that pretty much eliminates steals. As long as you have a catcher that could throw in the vicinity of 2nd base he can throw runners out. I once had an umpire tell me that he could always tell the players from SVYL because they excelled at every aspect of the game except for pick offs and steals. Fortunately those are easier concepts to pick up. At least they ha e been in my experience.

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Re: SVC 2017

Post by Fred Flintstone » Tue May 30, 2017 3:22 pm

Scioto Valley Youth League is well organized, but let's get real about the coaching. It is "daddy ball." I watched a game the other night that had seven dads in dugout. The thing is that the kids are playing which makes them better despite the coaching.

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Re: SVC 2017

Post by se-alum » Tue May 30, 2017 3:30 pm

Fred Flintstone wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 3:22 pm
Scioto Valley Youth League is well organized, but let's get real about the coaching. It is "daddy ball." I watched a game the other night that had seven dads in dugout. The thing is that the kids are playing which makes them better despite the coaching.
You have that in every rec league, and a lot of "travel ball" these days. There are some very good coaches in the SVYL and there are some very bad coaches also.

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Re: SVC 2017

Post by Watson40 » Wed May 31, 2017 1:03 pm

Fred Flintstone wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 3:22 pm
Scioto Valley Youth League is well organized, but let's get real about the coaching. It is "daddy ball." I watched a game the other night that had seven dads in dugout. The thing is that the kids are playing which makes them better despite the coaching.
That is a shame. SVYL used to be best because it wasn't like that as much. At least if you had dad's coaching, they had a measure of success in their life as a player. College or draft or at least high school stand out. But I know that if you have issues with this at svyl it can be taken to the people running the league. At least that's how it was 5 years ago. There is never a reason for 7 fathers in a dugout. That is one I would take to the commissioner. That is what set svyl apart from the city leagues.

They have to remember what it is. It is a competitive league with some talent. But there is always a travel team down any street that will come in and beat the brakes off their all stars. I hope that was a younger team with the dugout full of fathers. They will learn that there is always better ball clubs out there. Sometimes these guys take this way too seriously.

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Re: SVC 2017

Post by Watson40 » Wed May 31, 2017 1:05 pm

se-alum wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 3:30 pm
Fred Flintstone wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 3:22 pm
Scioto Valley Youth League is well organized, but let's get real about the coaching. It is "daddy ball." I watched a game the other night that had seven dads in dugout. The thing is that the kids are playing which makes them better despite the coaching.
You have that in every rec league, and a lot of "travel ball" these days. There are some very good coaches in the SVYL and there are some very bad coaches also.
Exactly! At least you aren't paying 1K to find out that you signed up for the best dressed daddy ball travel team in southern ohio haha.

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