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Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:10 pm
by mrwonderful
They wont call a strike at the letters anymore but they'll call a strike at the ankle or 6 inches outside..It's total bull crap ....I can understand in biddy league expanding the strike zone but by god when their in High School it's time to put your big boy pants on and call the game like it was suppose to be called. Home plate is there for a reason, 1 inch outside is a frigin ball...Lazy Umpires as far as I'm concerned!!!! Pitchers have all the advantage with these liberal pitcher umpires..Not all are like that but way to many are.....All you bigtime Umpires out there... Midway between belt and top of shoulders... and basically the bottom of the knee. I can stand one a little high or low as long as its over the plate but its total bull crap when a batter would have to reach out with a boat oar to hit the dang ball... Quit the bull crap umps!!!!!

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:02 am
by LetsGoPSU
I suggest you take a class, buy the gear, pass the exam and go take one the spots, plenty of room for good umpires.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:49 am
by hilljack
There just aren't a lot of quality umpires out there any more, Don't know why, but I've seen some pretty bad ones this year already. The problem is, sometimes these guys are changing outcomes of games. I understand everybody is human, but, jeeez, I agree with you guys.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:53 am
by hilljack
Gallipolis beat Coal Grove last night giving the Blue Devils a lead in the OVC with a conferenc record (I think) of 8-3, and Coal Grove now 7-4. Big games tonight include Ironton against SP for 2 games (finishing up the first), and Rock Hill travels to Portsmouth. The SP vs Ironton tonight could be huge, i would love to be there.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:25 pm
by mrwonderful
LetsGoPSU I suggest you keep drinking the Kool-Aid.....You must be one of these Umpires who expanded the Home Plate from 17 in to 24 in...It's a crying shame that the wuzzyification of America has included expanding the strike zone where a batter from game to game has no clue what it is....The plates there for a reason!!!!!!!!!!! and yes, way to many games have been determined by these liberal strike zones by way to many umpires.... I suggest you go back to class and take a refresher course on the strike zone PSU......The SP -Portsmouth game had somewhere around 14 k"s by batters taking called 3rd strikes with most pitches outside or inside 3 in or more...Total bull crap!!!!! But go ahead and enable the Umps who do this....Pump the sunshine. I mean my god how do they expect a Pitcher to throw a ball in that little of an area..It's only fair they call strikes a half foot outside.. When I umpired years ago we used home plate to go by to call strikes...Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:10 pm
by Phoenix31
mrwonderful wrote:LetsGoPSU I suggest you keep drinking the Kool-Aid.....You must be one of these Umpires who expanded the Home Plate from 17 in to 24 in...It's a crying shame that the wuzzyification of America has included expanding the strike zone where a batter from game to game has no clue what it is....The plates there for a reason!!!!!!!!!!! and yes, way to many games have been determined by these liberal strike zones by way to many umpires.... I suggest you go back to class and take a refresher course on the strike zone PSU......The SP -Portsmouth game had somewhere around 14 k"s by batters taking called 3rd strikes with most pitches outside or inside 3 in or more...Total bull crap!!!!! But go ahead and enable the Umps who do this....Pump the sunshine. I mean my god how do they expect a Pitcher to throw a ball in that little of an area..It's only fair they call strikes a half foot outside.. When I umpired years ago we used home plate to go by to call strikes...Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....
I was at a game around Lexington, KY last night where the strike zone was 3 to 4 inches outside on both sides of the plate for both teams. It isn't just Ohio.

BTW, Kentucky does have a limit on how many regular season games can be played - 36. In addition, there are limitations on practices during the off-season.

http://khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/20162017/bylaw23.pdf

One final note, lay off my friend LetsGoPSU. I have known him for over 40 years. He means what he says....in a good way.

Why don't you go back and umpire again?

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:33 pm
by mrwonderful
...i'll repeat what i said...3 to 4 inches outside is not a strike...it's cheating the kids...They never learn the strike zone...KY is more lax than ohio on regulations and everyone knows it...I never said only in ohio was the strike zone bad.. The plate is there for a reason...Why not go by it? I mean what I say in a good way....I can understand biddy league expanding the zone but not high school and above...

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:37 pm
by mrwonderful
By the way what I wrote has nothing to do about me going back to umpire. It has to do with the strike zone...A strike zone that has gotten so wide it's determining outcomes of ball games and that is Busch league.....

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:51 pm
by Phoenix31
mrwonderful wrote:...i'll repeat what i said...3 to 4 inches outside is not a strike...it's cheating the kids...They never learn the strike zone...KY is more lax than ohio on regulations and everyone knows it...I never said only in ohio was the strike zone bad.. The plate is there for a reason...Why not go by it? I mean what I say in a good way....I can understand biddy league expanding the zone but not high school and above...
Of course, it is not a strike - by rule. But, it is a strike if the umpire calls it as such. Therefore, become an umpire again and change the system.

Your previous quote about the "liberal OHSAA" having a handbook about expanding the zones and then stating "that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part" sure is black and white about comparing strike zones in Ohio and Kentucky.
mrwonderful wrote:Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....
I wonder, how many coaches did you throw out of ballgames in your lifetime?

:mrgreen:

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:56 pm
by hilljack
Plenty of good umpires out there too, with good strike zones. Honestly, I'm more interested in who's going to win the OVC myself, just saying.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:44 pm
by mrwonderful
I wonder how many times you raised helllllllll about a strike 3 call that was obviously a ball? lol

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:48 pm
by mrwonderful
OVC is coming down to the wire...5 team raise to the finish with fairland and the storied Trojans bringing up the rear...Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.... Todays society gets butt hurt pretty easy now days unless you sugarcoat facts....

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:51 pm
by mrwonderful
Yes Hill jack there are plenty of good umpires out there but that does not diminish the fact that HS strike zone has gotten expanded to the point their treating these ball players like their in biddy league.....There's also plenty of bad ones...

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:04 pm
by hilljack
mrwonderful wrote:I wonder how many times you raised helllllllll about a strike 3 call that was obviously a ball? lol
Maybe once or twice, or a few. Ok, you got me, maybe bunches. LOL

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:49 pm
by baseball5
Rock Hill defeated Portsmouth tonight 2-1. Landon smith puts on a dominating performance.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:50 pm
by baseball5
does anyone have the Gallia-Chesapeake score?

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:46 am
by LetsGoPSU
didn't mean to get your panties in a wad, just adding to the point....if you have the time and love the game, get back into it and help generate the change.I guess the point Im trying to make is this, this forum will not lead to one thing being changed, there has been and always will be a need for good people to step up and officiate games,
I remember my days of coaching, and also as an Umpire, the one thing I always heard was be consistent,

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:40 am
by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT
mrwonderful wrote:OVC is coming down to the wire...5 team raise to the finish with fairland and the storied Trojans bringing up the rear...Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.... Todays society gets butt hurt pretty easy now days unless you sugarcoat facts....

careful mr. orndorff, you may get on the last nerve of a Trojan fan.

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:35 am
by hilljack
baseball5 wrote:does anyone have the Gallia-Chesapeake score?

Gallia won in 8 innings, 7-5

Re: OVC 2017

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:47 am
by Phoenix31
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: careful mr. orndorff, you may get on the last nerve of a Trojan fan.
I don't argue with men who wear dresses...

:mrgreen: