Division 3 Sectionals- Team Records

[Nickel back]

Not meaning to disrespect Lynchburg clay at all, I said I feel like they are one of the top 3 teams in the entire district. I did not see the Clay burg game head to head but have seen both play a couple times. I did see clay dismantle southeastern in the opener. They are definitely a better team and much better than them on that day. Up 30 at half and I think around 25 after 3 and SE starters did not play a second in the 4 th. quarter and was outscored 18-5 In that frame to lose by 40. After that beating they travel to Westfall and their top player scores 2 points and they are 0-2.
Like I said earlier, They made some changes, had to and have now won 14 in a row. Their 6'1" starting center returned after missing the opener and they have been playing much better since. Of course they haven't played a team like Clay either. Have a big test this week against 16-2, state ranked (11th) d-2 Miami Trace.
Lynchburg is definately a better team than southeastern. 40 points better, who knows, they were in November. I would say Ironton, Wheelersburg, and Lyncburg Clay are all better teams than SE. The teams in the Athens sectional, not so much.
One of the things that could hurt Southeastern going against the top 5/6 teams in the district is they only play 6 kids. The good news is, they are 2 juniors and 4 sophomores. So they should be solid for a couple years.

[bman]

I hope the district coaches don't throw out strength of schedule because of not having to face their peers at a meeting. That will put this district further behind other districts in the state. The SE needs to get out and play good teams from other districts.

[Nickel back]

I agree, but they need to win as well. Is it going to benefit Westfall by playing Grove City, 12th ranked d-2 Circleville, Nease Florida, and Wheelersburg , all loses, in the draw? Probably not, but it will better prepare them for anything they are going to see in the district.
the truth of the matter is kids could care less if they are the 1,2, or 8 seed, they just want to play ball. Best of luck to all the teams the rest of the way.

[Fundamental2]

Nickel, always said "strength" of schedule should mean something, but it is political game as well, you don't want to vote against your conference in the toss up seedings. Also a tough schedule does prepare you for tourney where it all matters, to go 22-0 and lose in the sectional or District semi's stinks.

Kids do care bout seeding as does the coach, you don't want to play the tougher team early on, you want to get to the title games before you face them, so being 1-2 does matter, as usually 3-4 meet the top seed from the other side.
Tourney is about match ups to make the longest run possible and it is the fun part of the season

[Nickel back]

Fundmentals , I think we are saying the same thing. I know how political schools are, especially basketball coaches when trying to get the best draw for their team. Strength of schedule should play a roll when it comes to seeding teams but it is not the end all beat all , you have to win some of those games you schedule.
I mostly follow the SVC and I feel like Westfall played a very tough non league schedule but since they didn't beat the teams they played coaches won't take that into consideration when seeding. Although Westfall got much more out of of a loss to Circleville or Grove city than getting a 35point win over an inferior team. Same could be argued for A good Alexander team.
Now Southeastern, has beefed up their non league schedule a little and wIll continue to do so next year. I hope they go North and pick up a couple games. They had to play who was on their schedule this year and it was D- 2 Washington courthouse,D2 waverly, D2Jackson, D2Miami trace, 1 seed Lynchburg clay, 2 seed North Adams and Fairfield. Think they are 5-1 so far in those games and won each by 15.
Piketon records may be a bit misleading because of their non league strength of schedule.
Huntington , if they are hitting the 3 ball and they will fire them up can play with most teams in the district because they have excellent guard play. But Eastern Brown will and should get the 3 In That sectional .

[Snotnose]

Yes Nickle Back, Eastern Brown playing Paint Valley, Portsmouth West, and Valley really beefs up their non-conference schedule. Good call

[Ironman92]

Yes Nickle Back, Eastern Brown playing Paint Valley, Portsmouth West, and Valley really beefs up their non-conference schedule. Good call

Valley is 10-8? Playing in a pretty fair SOC facing South Webster and Wheelersburg twice. They would be right with Piketon and Huntington in the SVC I'd guess.

Eastern Brown also played Blanchester and Georgetown out of league. Lost both without their athletic 6'0 Day(I think)

Their non conference is not strong though but I do believe (with Day) they are the 3rd best team in this sectional.

[Snotnose]

Yeah maybe. Huntington did beat Valley this year too.
Ironman I'm going to convert you to jump on the Huntington bandwagon before it's over. Nickle back is a lost cause, he doesn't think they are very good.

[Ironman92]

Yeah maybe. Huntington did beat Valley this year too.
Ironman I'm going to convert you to jump on the Huntington bandwagon before it's over. Nickle back is a lost cause, he doesn't think they are very good.

I watched Sams do a shoot-a-round at Huntington before they left to Paint Valley I think and she was draining 25-27 feet shots seemingly at will. Checked scores later that Saturday evening and she had 37.

Nothing to sell me on...I don't have any ties to any team in D3....I'll root for the best teams to win. Good Luck to all

[Nickel back]

what have I said that makes you think I don't think they are a good team? I said when they are hitting threes they can play with most teams in the district. At the beginning of the season if you told Their coach he was 1. Going to have a winning record . First in 3/4 years and 2. Be the 4 seed With a chance to win one game and advance he probably would have taken it and not played a game. I think Huntington is solid , having a good season that could get much better with wins over Piketon , Westfall and Southeastern in the coming weeks. They have great guard play and could be very dangerous just don't think they are better than Lynchburg, north Adams or eastern brown At this time but hopefully the coaches that actually get a vote see it otherwise.

[fortdawg]

Personalties, self interest, conference ties, and grudges will determine the seedings. That's human nature at work no matter what system you use.

There are multiple examples of each that we all know of----the only way around that is to go to computer points like football.

I like the give and take and it really comes down to this----the best team at tournament time usually advances.

Now if you care a lot about if you get beat in the Semi's and not the Final----seeding is huge.

[Hoop Wizard]

i.e.-River Valley-one and done if you hold a grudge!

[Snotnose]

Hoops37 - some updated records for the Valley sectional.
Adena 2-15
Eastern Brown 14-5
Huntington 13-5
Lynchburg 16-1
North Adams 14-3
Northwest 4-11??
Peebles 7-11
Piketon 12-5
Rock Hill 8-6
West Union 7-10

[Nickel back]

Southeastern , now won 15 in a row. Definately need work on their defense, gave up a bunch of layups against Westfall and was told the same thing happened tonight. Better get it figured out before tourney .

[Fundamental2]

NA is now 14-3 w/loss to WH Court House
EB is now 14-5 w/win over Peebles
WU is now 7-10 w/Win over Ripley
Peebles is 7-11