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GalliaGrad78 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:04 am Just curious, not that it matters much, but who has Logan beat and been beaten by?
Idk if you are asking because you doubt their ranking, or because you are genuinely interested, but here it is:

Wins: @ Unioto (71-56); @ Vinton County (76-40); vs. Lancaster (57-50); vs. Athens (61-44); @ Heath (55-45); vs. Bloom Carroll (68-34); vs. Watkins Memorial (77-57); @ Washington CH (66-47); @ Athens (68-37); @ Teays Valley (58-37); vs. Capital, WV (#8 in AP at time of game) (76-58); @ Dublin Jerome (57-51); vs. Whitehall (55-47); vs. St Charles (47-42); vs. New Albany (51-44).

Losses:
vs. Mount Vernon (who is 13-5), losing 60-58
@ Parkersburg South (who is #1 in AP in WV), losing 68-63 in OT


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Big week for the Blue Devils fairland and at Portsmouth before the draw. If they don’t win at least one of those. I don’t see them as a top 4 seed


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Pfloyd..........will you be making the trip up to Falcon country Saturday night for the big game between FU and Unioto??


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Great rankings pfloyd. I'd probably rank them the following

1.) Fairland
2.) Logan
3.) Unioto
4.) Fairfield Union
5.) Oak Hill
6.) Warren
7.) Coal Grove
8.) Chillicothe
9.) Sheridan
10.) Eastern Pike

I will probably get berated for Oak Hill over Coal Grove since they just lost to them. But Oak Hill was without a key starter, on the road, and CG had to hit a miracle 3 pointer at the buzzer to send it to OT. They deserved the win, don't get me wrong, and they are hands down the best D4 team in SE Ohio. With that said, I think Oak Hill wins that matchup 9/10 times with Long in the lineup and 8/10 times with him out of the lineup.


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CG has 2 wins over top 10 teams in last week. How could say that OH deserves to be ranked ahead. What does CG have to do to prove that are for real! You really think OH could beat CG 9 out of 10 Times😂😂! COME ON MAN!!Did you watch the game?


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I would have Oak Hill over Coal Grove as well.


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Sopump33 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:59 am CG has 2 wins over top 10 teams in last week. How could say that OH deserves to be ranked ahead. What does CG have to do to prove that are for real! You really think OH could beat CG 9 out of 10 Times😂😂! COME ON MAN!!Did you watch the game?
Are you seriously asking if people watched the game? In my opinion that hurts your case not helps it. It took Coal Grove a prayer, 30 foot banked in buzzer beater with two guys in his face to send it to overtime against a team without their 6'5" starting forward to win in OT by 4 points...4 points. It's not like CG manhandled the Oaks like you are making it out to be.

I agree, Oak Hill takes 9 of 10 with a healthy Oaks squad at Coal Grove with the same crappy refs we had and 10 of 10 on neutral court with good officials.

Coal Grove is a good basketball team, but enjoy your win for what it is and let it go man.


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You let it go man! Your the one who keeps bringing it up! So shut it and take the L! All you OH fans were talking before game how CG was a joke. now we win and you would still beat us 9 out 10.. just move on!!


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Can anyone give a rundown of Coal Grove’s rotation players, year and height? Or at least main 2 or 3 players


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I understand that Oak Hill is a very good team, but do not undervalue that Coal Grove team.


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Sopump33 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:50 am You let it go man! Your the one who keeps bringing it up! So shut it and take the L! All you OH fans were talking before game how CG was a joke. now we win and you would still beat us 9 out 10.. just move on!!
And I have now congratulated Coal Grove more than once and told you Coal Grove has a nice team and I expect them to do well in the post season. There were just a lot of factors to take into account this game. Maybe Coal Grove would still have pulled out the win, but IMO I just don't see it based on all things considered. I am an Oaks fan so consider my opinion biased if you like, but there are plenty of unbiased opinions on here of long time basketball fans/experts. Those are the ones that carry some weight.

I will not argue with pfloyds rankings. He does a fantastic job and spends a lot of time watching and researching the game and I have a lot of respect for what he does and his opinion. It doesn't mean I have to agree that Coal Grove deserves a higher rank based on that win. These rankings are for our enjoyment only. What means the most is how these teams fair in the post season. I personally hope they both represent southern Ohio well in their respective divisions.


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Chieftain2009 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:14 am
GalliaGrad78 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:04 am Just curious, not that it matters much, but who has Logan beat and been beaten by?
Idk if you are asking because you doubt their ranking, or because you are genuinely interested, but here it is:

Wins: @ Unioto (71-56); @ Vinton County (76-40); vs. Lancaster (57-50); vs. Athens (61-44); @ Heath (55-45); vs. Bloom Carroll (68-34); vs. Watkins Memorial (77-57); @ Washington CH (66-47); @ Athens (68-37); @ Teays Valley (58-37); vs. Capital, WV (#8 in AP at time of game) (76-58); @ Dublin Jerome (57-51); vs. Whitehall (55-47); vs. St Charles (47-42); vs. New Albany (51-44).

Losses:
vs. Mount Vernon (who is 13-5), losing 60-58
@ Parkersburg South (who is #1 in AP in WV), losing 68-63 in OT
I'm not smart enough to doubt Logan's ranking. Just curious.


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Now that’s a post I respect! I wish OH the best as well!


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GalliaGrad78 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:17 pm
Chieftain2009 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:14 am
GalliaGrad78 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:04 am Just curious, not that it matters much, but who has Logan beat and been beaten by?
Idk if you are asking because you doubt their ranking, or because you are genuinely interested, but here it is:

Wins: @ Unioto (71-56); @ Vinton County (76-40); vs. Lancaster (57-50); vs. Athens (61-44); @ Heath (55-45); vs. Bloom Carroll (68-34); vs. Watkins Memorial (77-57); @ Washington CH (66-47); @ Athens (68-37); @ Teays Valley (58-37); vs. Capital, WV (#8 in AP at time of game) (76-58); @ Dublin Jerome (57-51); vs. Whitehall (55-47); vs. St Charles (47-42); vs. New Albany (51-44).

Losses:
vs. Mount Vernon (who is 13-5), losing 60-58
@ Parkersburg South (who is #1 in AP in WV), losing 68-63 in OT
I'm not smart enough to doubt Logan's ranking. Just curious.
LOL, I thought I would just throw that out there, you never know.


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Oaktown wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:32 am
Sopump33 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:59 am CG has 2 wins over top 10 teams in last week. How could say that OH deserves to be ranked ahead. What does CG have to do to prove that are for real! You really think OH could beat CG 9 out of 10 Times😂😂! COME ON MAN!!Did you watch the game?
Are you seriously asking if people watched the game? In my opinion that hurts your case not helps it. It took Coal Grove a prayer, 30 foot banked in buzzer beater with two guys in his face to send it to overtime against a team without their 6'5" starting forward to win in OT by 4 points...4 points. It's not like CG manhandled the Oaks like you are making it out to be.

I agree, Oak Hill takes 9 of 10 with a healthy Oaks squad at Coal Grove with the same crappy refs we had and 10 of 10 on neutral court with good officials.

Coal Grove is a good basketball team, but enjoy your win for what it is and let it go man.
Just a little insight from someone who has watched the Coal Grove player who made that buzzer beater since he was in 2nd grade...he is known for his long range shooting, he is a hard working kid who practices a lot so it wasn't a fluke that shot went in. I've watched him drill long range shots like that many times and I think it was a great call by the Coal Grove coaching staff to put the ball in his hands that last play of regulation for two reasons. #1 They have confidence in him and #2 those not very familiar with him would least expect him to get the ball for the last shot to tie it up. Just my two cents on that subject. Good luck to all teams in the upcoming tournament and Go Big Grove!


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SportsGirl83 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:42 pm
Oaktown wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:32 am
Sopump33 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:59 am CG has 2 wins over top 10 teams in last week. How could say that OH deserves to be ranked ahead. What does CG have to do to prove that are for real! You really think OH could beat CG 9 out of 10 Times😂😂! COME ON MAN!!Did you watch the game?
Are you seriously asking if people watched the game? In my opinion that hurts your case not helps it. It took Coal Grove a prayer, 30 foot banked in buzzer beater with two guys in his face to send it to overtime against a team without their 6'5" starting forward to win in OT by 4 points...4 points. It's not like CG manhandled the Oaks like you are making it out to be.

I agree, Oak Hill takes 9 of 10 with a healthy Oaks squad at Coal Grove with the same crappy refs we had and 10 of 10 on neutral court with good officials.

Coal Grove is a good basketball team, but enjoy your win for what it is and let it go man.
Just a little insight from someone who has watched the Coal Grove player who made that buzzer beater since he was in 2nd grade...he is known for his long range shooting, he is a hard working kid who practices a lot so it wasn't a fluke that shot went in. I've watched him drill long range shots like that many times and I think it was a great call by the Coal Grove coaching staff to put the ball in his hands that last play of regulation for two reasons. #1 They have confidence in him and #2 those not very familiar with him would least expect him to get the ball for the last shot to tie it up. Just my two cents on that subject. Good luck to all teams in the upcoming tournament and Go Big Grove!
Really 25 to 30 feet from the basket, on a throw up that bank in. That was the coach's plan, Hmmmmmmm He made it to send into overtime telling someone that shot was planned is priceless, Good luck the rest of the season.


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SportsGirl83 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:42 pm
Oaktown wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:32 am
Sopump33 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:59 am CG has 2 wins over top 10 teams in last week. How could say that OH deserves to be ranked ahead. What does CG have to do to prove that are for real! You really think OH could beat CG 9 out of 10 Times😂😂! COME ON MAN!!Did you watch the game?
Are you seriously asking if people watched the game? In my opinion that hurts your case not helps it. It took Coal Grove a prayer, 30 foot banked in buzzer beater with two guys in his face to send it to overtime against a team without their 6'5" starting forward to win in OT by 4 points...4 points. It's not like CG manhandled the Oaks like you are making it out to be.

I agree, Oak Hill takes 9 of 10 with a healthy Oaks squad at Coal Grove with the same crappy refs we had and 10 of 10 on neutral court with good officials.

Coal Grove is a good basketball team, but enjoy your win for what it is and let it go man.
Just a little insight from someone who has watched the Coal Grove player who made that buzzer beater since he was in 2nd grade...he is known for his long range shooting, he is a hard working kid who practices a lot so it wasn't a fluke that shot went in. I've watched him drill long range shots like that many times and I think it was a great call by the Coal Grove coaching staff to put the ball in his hands that last play of regulation for two reasons. #1 They have confidence in him and #2 those not very familiar with him would least expect him to get the ball for the last shot to tie it up. Just my two cents on that subject. Good luck to all teams in the upcoming tournament and Go Big Grove!
Good for him indeed and a tremendous memory he nor 100’s of others will forget.

I believe he is known for his extra long shots and range, but the fact it banked in means he was 3 feet off target too long but fortunately went in. Had he not banked it in (unless for some reason he was trying too) I could buy in to the great shot. If he tried to bank in the all or nothing shot and did, then great skill and I’ll greatly edit this post.


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Ironman92 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 pm
SportsGirl83 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:42 pm
Oaktown wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:32 am

Are you seriously asking if people watched the game? In my opinion that hurts your case not helps it. It took Coal Grove a prayer, 30 foot banked in buzzer beater with two guys in his face to send it to overtime against a team without their 6'5" starting forward to win in OT by 4 points...4 points. It's not like CG manhandled the Oaks like you are making it out to be.

I agree, Oak Hill takes 9 of 10 with a healthy Oaks squad at Coal Grove with the same crappy refs we had and 10 of 10 on neutral court with good officials.

Coal Grove is a good basketball team, but enjoy your win for what it is and let it go man.
Just a little insight from someone who has watched the Coal Grove player who made that buzzer beater since he was in 2nd grade...he is known for his long range shooting, he is a hard working kid who practices a lot so it wasn't a fluke that shot went in. I've watched him drill long range shots like that many times and I think it was a great call by the Coal Grove coaching staff to put the ball in his hands that last play of regulation for two reasons. #1 They have confidence in him and #2 those not very familiar with him would least expect him to get the ball for the last shot to tie it up. Just my two cents on that subject. Good luck to all teams in the upcoming tournament and Go Big Grove!
Good for him indeed and a tremendous memory he nor 100’s of others will forget.

I believe he is known for his extra long shots and range, but the fact it banked in means he was 3 feet off target too long but fortunately went in. Had he not banked it in (unless for some reason he was trying too) I could buy in to the great shot. If he tried to bank in the all or nothing shot and did, then great skill and I’ll greatly edit this post.
Thank you Ironman, I was thinking it and you said it. I'm trying very hard to take the high road and leave this conversation on a positive note. Lol


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I'm going to call a "truce" between ALL sides on this matter - IF CG & OH fans want to "discuss" their thoughts on Saturday's game - do it on the game thread ... IF the CG supporters now coming out of the woodwork want to "beat their chests" - do it on the game thread ... the game is in the books ... from an outsiders viewpoint what was a good "W" by CG ... from the posts of many other seops posters in the many weeks before this game (from Dec on) Coal Grove is a good basketball team ! ( not sure where all of the CG posters were back then - but I digress) let them be good ! the supporters who are bashing OH , bashing anyone who has a different point of view only - as I posted on the game thread - only diminishes the W and the what the team has done on the court ...

... one of the newbie CG posters posted that "P Floyd was bias for Oak Hill" - I'm bias for ALL teams that have quality coaches (Coach Persin) , quality players, quality programs, quality fans ... hell yes I'm bias ... I have done my rankings for almost 20 years , I have seen many many quality coaches, met many many quality coaches , players, fans from ALL across Southern/Southeastern Ohio ... I WILL ALWAYS give props to , consideration to those quality programs due to the coaches philosophy ... here's the short list : Warren Local, Vinton County, Fairfield Union, Logan Elm,Oak Hill, Eastern Brown, Chesapeake, Fairland, Portsmouth, Chillicothe, Eastern Pike, Trimble, Unioto, Peebles, Zane Trace,Jackson, Waverly, Piketon, Circleville, Washington CH,Ironton, Lynchburg Clay, Fairfield Leesburg, Western Pike ... they are on the short list because the coaching staffs, the Head Coach do/does it right ... no matter the talent levels of these programs the kids learn the game of basketball, the fundamentals of the game ... these programs are THERE - near the top every year - not because "pfloyd is bias for them" - ALL of these programs are at the top the SouthEast District in their respective divisions because of the head coaches and the programs developed by those coaches ...

... when I go to make my "Pre-season" rankings as a starting place I start with this group and what they bring to the table for the season ... other schools may have " good seasons" even "outstanding seasons" by any standard but the teams on my shortlist - these schools, coaches get it done every single year ... so to the CG poster who NEEDED to post that "P Floyd is bias for Oak Hill "- you are right ! if push comes to shove the Oak Hill's of SouthEastern Ohio have earned my respect by what the coaches - like Coach Persin - does with their program year in year out ... I'm guilty as charged ...

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Coal Grove deserves to be in the top 8, being a d4 school playing a very difficult schedule against D2 and D3 schools. The Hornets are primed to make a serious run in the postseason, hopefully they will stay healthy going forward.

My Trojans need a win over Rock Hill on Tuesday to record the 80th winning season in Portsmouth basketball history (since official records were kept since 1913). GO TROJANS!!!


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