Eastern pike has won 20 straight games. How far can they go in the tourney??

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greygoose wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:03 pm
Old Dog 98 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:08 pm I find their fans to be very low class! Had one fan ejected during the game against Wellston and continue to taunt one of their players, just a kid! Sad!
So you are classifying an entire fan base, because 1 fan was ejected?? Interesting way to judge others that you have going on there. I've seen games where fans were ejected from West, Oak Hill, Burg, Waverly, Valley, East just to name a few over the years, but to say I'm going to lump everyone in one box calling them "very low class" is a pretty classless move. An over zealous fan here and there isn't going to make me or should make anyone look down on an entire fan base. In the end I guess your statement is pretty low class and just sad. Should the fan be taunting a player, no, but unfortunately it happens a lot and a lot of people get caught up in the moment especially if people have witnessed the player acting in poor sportsmanship to the other team.
I think an oak hill fan gets ejected every time they come to the burg. Heck some don’t even make it through the jv game


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I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.


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Waverly69 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:39 pm
Old Dog 98 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:08 pm I find their fans to be very low class! Had one fan ejected during the game against Wellston and continue to taunt one of their players, just a kid! Sad!
He had it coming for him, the kid was a punk
Eastern Fans are punks. Glad to seem em get knocked out.


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Old Dog 98 wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm
Waverly69 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:39 pm
Old Dog 98 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:08 pm I find their fans to be very low class! Had one fan ejected during the game against Wellston and continue to taunt one of their players, just a kid! Sad!
He had it coming for him, the kid was a punk
Eastern Fans are punks. Glad to seem em get knocked out.
8 post, all you're doing is trolling run along and play now.
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Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:44 pm I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.
If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.


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greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:44 pm I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.
If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
It will def. be rough for Eastern next year. They lose way too much as they enter the SOC2.


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greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:44 pm I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.
If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
I understand that, but in the long run as long as Eastern is a D III team playing in the SOC II will benefit them better in the long run as to being in the SOC I playing DIV teams on a nightly basis other than non conference games. If the Eagles were DIV this year they would be at the convo and predicted to win a district title with this team. Playing a major part of DIV teams could have hurt as playing East and Notre Dame did not help as it would be playing against the bottom teams in the SOC II would have.


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smurray wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:44 pm I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.
If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
It will def. be rough for Eastern next year. They lose way too much as they enter the SOC2.
Yeah and I've heard the jump to SOC2 means Eastern doesn't want to participate in the Pike County Holiday Classic and I'm hearing Piketon as well could be out. That's such a good little county tourney I hate to see it go away.


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greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:35 pm
smurray wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm

If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
It will def. be rough for Eastern next year. They lose way too much as they enter the SOC2.
Yeah and I've heard the jump to SOC2 means Eastern doesn't want to participate in the Pike County Holiday Classic and I'm hearing Piketon as well could be out. That's such a good little county tourney I hate to see it go away.
For a long time, it was the Waverly Holiday Classic and it featured some great matchups with teams from around the area, so I could see it going back to that. A lot of teams would love to play 2 games at the Downtown Arena.

Obviously, it would lose a bit of the passion, but would still be pretty good.


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danicalifornia wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:42 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:35 pm
smurray wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:23 pm

It will def. be rough for Eastern next year. They lose way too much as they enter the SOC2.
Yeah and I've heard the jump to SOC2 means Eastern doesn't want to participate in the Pike County Holiday Classic and I'm hearing Piketon as well could be out. That's such a good little county tourney I hate to see it go away.
For a long time, it was the Waverly Holiday Classic and it featured some great matchups with teams from around the area, so I could see it going back to that. A lot of teams would love to play 2 games at the Downtown Arena.

Obviously, it would lose a bit of the passion, but would still be pretty good.
That's what I figured it would go back to, it's suck a big draw being the County Classic though plus always have bragging rights ;) . We'll see though but I'm with you they'll probably invite another team or 2 to fill-in if both teams are out, I've heard Eastern for sure is out. See what type of draw it has when it's not county teams, because typically that place is packed. If they invite teams they should bring in a team or 2 that has the draw of seeing maybe a bigger player everyone wants to see play.


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I've heard from a couple different people that Eastern may stay in the SOC 1 and will be D4 next year.


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EagleNut14 wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:29 am I've heard from a couple different people that Eastern may stay in the SOC 1 and will be D4 next year.
I know for sure they will be DIV next year.
But haven't heard anything about them staying in the SOC1. Hope that isn't true.


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I think the best scenario long term is Eastern moves to SOC2, and goes back to D4. That will have them better prepared for tournament time. They will take some bumps and bruised over the next few seasons but they have some talented kids coming.


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Eastern is going to be in a world of hurt next year as they enter SOC 2 while graduating a massive chunk of their talent. JV team wasn't exactly good, either.

If Barrick stays, they'll sneak out some wins in the league. But if he leaves, I could honestly see Eastern battling for the bottom spot in the league next year with Northwest.

SEVERAL teams return a good chunk of talent.


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GoAt 10 wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:22 am I think the best scenario long term is Eastern moves to SOC2, and goes back to D4. That will have them better prepared for tournament time. They will take some bumps and bruised over the next few seasons but they have some talented kids coming.
Agreed. Next Season will be a struggle, but by playing in a tougher league, and some players getting more time on the varsity level, might prepare them for tournaments.
Hunter Cochenour is going to have to put up the shots. I think this years team lacked getting him the ball. And when you are one of the top shooters in the area, you have to get more than 5-8 shots a game. Next year, if they want to compete, Cochenour is going to have to shoot....a bunch.
Dillon Maddox will also be another that will have to step up. The kid has some skill, decent ball handler, and shooter. Only thing I seen was he may have lacked confidence and Not having much varsity experience prior to this year may have contributed to that. But I think he will be fine.
Overall, Next years team may get bumped around, but might turn some heads come tourney time. Either way, im looking forward to it and im sure coach Barrick will be up to the challenge.
Go Eagles!


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greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:35 pm
smurray wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm

If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
It will def. be rough for Eastern next year. They lose way too much as they enter the SOC2.
Yeah and I've heard the jump to SOC2 means Eastern doesn't want to participate in the Pike County Holiday Classic and I'm hearing Piketon as well could be out. That's such a good little county tourney I hate to see it go away.
What does jumping to SOC2 have to do with the Classic. They currently play Western 3 times a year when playing them in the Classic, so the only thing that would change is possibly playing Waverly 3 times, not Western. Will they even schedule Western non conference.


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Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:35 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:44 pm I think the move to the SOC II for Eastern will help, especially come tournament time playing schools who are D III on a nightly basis.
If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
I understand that, but in the long run as long as Eastern is a D III team playing in the SOC II will benefit them better in the long run as to being in the SOC I playing DIV teams on a nightly basis other than non conference games. If the Eagles were DIV this year they would be at the convo and predicted to win a district title with this team. Playing a major part of DIV teams could have hurt as playing East and Notre Dame did not help as it would be playing against the bottom teams in the SOC II would have.
I've never agreed 100% percent with this line of thinking. Yes, playing tougher competition on a consistent basis can make you better and in a sense prepare you for tournament play but trust me, if in the process you get 5-6 more losses and a much lower seed, the benefit of "being prepared" won't do you a lot of good. I will take the higher seed year in and year out over the idea of a more "seasoned" team with a low seed. Seeding matters a lot most of the time.


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HumbleObserver wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:35 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm

If it does it won't happen for a while, they lose to much and with the move to SOC2 quite frankly you could see Eastern looking at a 6-8 win season next year.
I understand that, but in the long run as long as Eastern is a D III team playing in the SOC II will benefit them better in the long run as to being in the SOC I playing DIV teams on a nightly basis other than non conference games. If the Eagles were DIV this year they would be at the convo and predicted to win a district title with this team. Playing a major part of DIV teams could have hurt as playing East and Notre Dame did not help as it would be playing against the bottom teams in the SOC II would have.
I've never agreed 100% percent with this line of thinking. Yes, playing tougher competition on a consistent basis can make you better and in a sense prepare you for tournament play but trust me, if in the process you get 5-6 more losses and a much lower seed, the benefit of "being prepared" won't do you a lot of good. I will take the higher seed year in and year out over the idea of a more "seasoned" team with a low seed. Seeding matters a lot most of the time.
Typically I would agree.... but teams like Valley make that argument difficult. Pretty tough schedule in the SOC 2, some tough games out of conference. Then the #10 seed knocks off the #2 seed Eastern Brown, who came from a weaker conference.

South Webster in D4 is another one that always comes to mind.

Ironton in D3 now is proving that difficult schedule's can help prepare them. Besides being in the OVC they play a VERY tough out of conference schedule. They're easily the 2nd best team in D3 in SE Ohio but got the 5 seed. Look what they just did to the 4 seed.

Really though, it just depends. Basketball is a game of matchups. Some teams matchup great with one team, but matchup poorly with another. Chesapeake was a bad matchup for Eastern Pike, but I think Pike would have matched up much better with Alexander/Fairland. So who knows!


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bbjunky81 wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:54 pm
HumbleObserver wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Tartanblue wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:35 pm

I understand that, but in the long run as long as Eastern is a D III team playing in the SOC II will benefit them better in the long run as to being in the SOC I playing DIV teams on a nightly basis other than non conference games. If the Eagles were DIV this year they would be at the convo and predicted to win a district title with this team. Playing a major part of DIV teams could have hurt as playing East and Notre Dame did not help as it would be playing against the bottom teams in the SOC II would have.
I've never agreed 100% percent with this line of thinking. Yes, playing tougher competition on a consistent basis can make you better and in a sense prepare you for tournament play but trust me, if in the process you get 5-6 more losses and a much lower seed, the benefit of "being prepared" won't do you a lot of good. I will take the higher seed year in and year out over the idea of a more "seasoned" team with a low seed. Seeding matters a lot most of the time.
Typically I would agree.... but teams like Valley make that argument difficult. Pretty tough schedule in the SOC 2, some tough games out of conference. Then the #10 seed knocks off the #2 seed Eastern Brown, who came from a weaker conference.

South Webster in D4 is another one that always comes to mind.

Ironton in D3 now is proving that difficult schedule's can help prepare them. Besides being in the OVC they play a VERY tough out of conference schedule. They're easily the 2nd best team in D3 in SE Ohio but got the 5 seed. Look what they just did to the 4 seed.

Really though, it just depends. Basketball is a game of matchups. Some teams matchup great with one team, but matchup poorly with another. Chesapeake was a bad matchup for Eastern Pike, but I think Pike would have matched up much better with Alexander/Fairland. So who knows!
I would also throw in creating one big sectional.


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Not too far this year---must have played a few weak teams.


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