Division 2 Tournament Southeastern

[smurray]

Does waverly have a chance no respect for us anyways giving us the 5 seed so...

The orange & black Tigers need to show up ready to take care of business and prove everybody wrong.

[Ed Ott]

On paper Greenfield and Waverly looks like a great match but I’m not so sure. Waverly has the ticked off edge firmly on their shoulder. Not sure Greenfield’s guards are enough. I’d guess Waverly by double digits honestly

[HamPorter]

On paper Greenfield and Waverly looks like a great match but I’m not so sure. Waverly has the ticked off edge firmly on their shoulder. Not sure Greenfield’s guards are enough. I’d guess Waverly by double digits honestly

Each team is trending in opposite directions, so I agree that Waverly wins by double digits.

[mlittle]

McClain guards will be fine. This should be a close game. If Waverly doesn’t shoot it well their season will be over

[LucasDavenport]

Since January 1

Greenfield is 6-5.

6-0 home
0-5 away. If you look at their losses I believe you will find them acceptable.


I believe whichever team survives this Sectional Final will know they were in a battle. My prediction would be with 4:00 to go it will be 48-47 and anyone’s game.

[trojandave]

I have seen Waverly several times, and they actually are somewhat like Portsmouth.......they struggle at times in the half court offensively(not as much as the Trojans, though) but are much better when they can get out and run. If the Tigers (Waverly) can execute their half court offense efficiently, they will be tough for anyone to beat. Their defense alone will keep them in any game, with Cody Remington leading the way. They're one of the more fun teams to watch.

I'm glad to see McClain doing better......for almost 30 years from the early 80's, they were one of the premier programs in the SE district.

[NCGreenwave34]

Waverly-Greenfield: it should be close as it’s all guard
Control in tournament season. Defenses should be
strong on both sides. This game will be in the 40’s
With free throws being the difference of the game!

[warrior1]

All those details don’t get noticed by coaches.

I simply tried to give some reasoning behind the 7 seed.

Coaches look at who you beat — they don’t look at losses near as much. They just don’t.

I used your schedule after January 1 because you had a change which affected how your team was viewed and performed.

Washington can relate and empathize as we lost 21 points a night after the Adena game plus 2 who definitely would have helped off the bench.

The coaches this year — I think across all divisions — looked at more than win-loss record. People have been complaining for years that strength of schedule should matter and they moved in that direction this year and it’s not surprising that people from communities and schools who had better records aren’t happy.

Zach Fleer of 270hoops.com comprised a ratings system to help with the seeding of the huge central district.

He gave teams a rating and then bonus points for Good Wins and then took away points for bad losses.

He gave nothing or no merit for losses to teams equal or better than you. Losing to those teams don’t prove anything other than you lose to quality teams.

And to be totally honest I think it’s Strength of Wins not strength of schedule.

Fair or not that’s what measures teams for the most part — strength of wins.

Don't take me wrong were ok with the 7 seed and I believe we can advance thru the 7 seed but a team that's is 9 and 11 is the 6 seed I wish we would have played them.

Ironton from our league Plays Zane Trace tomorrow we will see how strong our league is after that game.

I just heard Zane Trace beat Ironton @ Ironton by a point. My Adena team got upset tonight, but it just shows you how good Zane Trace is to go onto the Tigers court and win.

I believe they are now 17-4 with losses to Hilliard Davidson, Gahanna Lincoln, Johnstown Monroe and Greenfield. This pioneer team could have been 20-1 if they didn’t schedule that tough of a schedule.

[Spartan12]

Waverly-Greenfield: it should be close as it’s all guard
Control in tournament season. Defenses should be
strong on both sides. This game will be in the 40’s
With free throws being the difference of the game!

Flip a coin. This game should be terrific.

[Ukfanatic]

Greenfield is a tough matchup for Waverly. Their guards can handle the pressure and have multiple kids who can handle the ball. Waverly wears teams out and wins games in the fourth quarter or they turn you over and get easy transition buckets. Not sure they can do either to greenfield. They did it to Athens, Jackson and Oak Hill. Couldn’t do it to Chillicothe, Court House or Wheelersburg. The only team they completely shut down their guards and still lost was Eastern Pike. I don’t think Greenfield has a Michael Miller. Should be a great game and very fun to watch!

[smurray]

Greenfield is a tough matchup for Waverly. Their guards can handle the pressure and have multiple kids who can handle the ball. Waverly wears teams out and wins games in the fourth quarter or they turn you over and get easy transition buckets. Not sure they can do either to greenfield. They did it to Athens, Jackson and Oak Hill. Couldn’t do it to Chillicothe, Court House or Wheelersburg. The only team they completely shut down their guards and still lost was Eastern Pike. I don’t think Greenfield has a Michael Miller. Should be a great game and very fun to watch!

If Waverly plays like they did against Jackson and Oak Hill both times I like their chances. Like you said, the Tigers controlled Eastern’s guards (was not hurt by Leist at all) but could not stop Miller. I don’t much about McClain but say they would be hard pressed to have a Miller, or Holden, or Noel. I think Waverly just needs come out ready play with high intensity and pressure, make a good % of their shots and knock down FT’s.

[mlittle]

Greenfield is a tough matchup for Waverly. Their guards can handle the pressure and have multiple kids who can handle the ball. Waverly wears teams out and wins games in the fourth quarter or they turn you over and get easy transition buckets. Not sure they can do either to greenfield. They did it to Athens, Jackson and Oak Hill. Couldn’t do it to Chillicothe, Court House or Wheelersburg. The only team they completely shut down their guards and still lost was Eastern Pike. I don’t think Greenfield has a Michael Miller. Should be a great game and very fun to watch!

If Waverly plays like they did against Jackson and Oak Hill both times I like their chances. Like you said, the Tigers controlled Eastern’s guards (was not hurt by Leist at all) but could not stop Miller. I don’t much about McClain but say they would be hard pressed to have a Miller, or Holden, or Noel. I think Waverly just needs come out ready play with high intensity and pressure, make a good % of their shots and knock down FT’s.

They have a Mischal (he’s pretty darn good) and two nice guards plus another big kid that’s pretty good also. This should be a battle. Wish I could watch this one

[Ironman92]

Greenfield is a tough matchup for Waverly. Their guards can handle the pressure and have multiple kids who can handle the ball. Waverly wears teams out and wins games in the fourth quarter or they turn you over and get easy transition buckets. Not sure they can do either to greenfield. They did it to Athens, Jackson and Oak Hill. Couldn’t do it to Chillicothe, Court House or Wheelersburg. The only team they completely shut down their guards and still lost was Eastern Pike. I don’t think Greenfield has a Michael Miller. Should be a great game and very fun to watch!

If Waverly plays like they did against Jackson and Oak Hill both times I like their chances. Like you said, the Tigers controlled Eastern’s guards (was not hurt by Leist at all) but could not stop Miller. I don’t much about McClain but say they would be hard pressed to have a Miller, or Holden, or Noel. I think Waverly just needs come out ready play with high intensity and pressure, make a good % of their shots and knock down FT’s.

They have a Mischal (he’s pretty darn good) and two nice guards plus another big kid that’s pretty good also. This should be a battle. Wish I could watch this one

Devin Carter is 6’4 and scores 17 ppg. He’s very good underneath.

[allamericanironman]

First off seeding went exactly as I saw it weeks ago. I will say again that all FAC teams top to bottom should have the competitive edge. They constantly battle and are hands down the best league in seo. Now they might come out and all lose but besides ZT and warren Sheridan we should all cruise into the convo! Having said this Waverly warren and ZT are all playing good ball. Let not the best team win but the team that will refuse to lose win! Someone is gonna go take it! wins and losses no longer matter. is your team battle tested? Let’s all stay healthy and bring our best. Good luck to all teams!

One other thing let’s hope the refs let the boys play it’s been stated earlier no tick tack calls. I can’t think of anything worse than refs deciding any of these games. We all want to see physicality be rewarded!

[NCGreenwave34]

Greenfield is a tough matchup for Waverly. Their guards can handle the pressure and have multiple kids who can handle the ball. Waverly wears teams out and wins games in the fourth quarter or they turn you over and get easy transition buckets. Not sure they can do either to greenfield. They did it to Athens, Jackson and Oak Hill. Couldn’t do it to Chillicothe, Court House or Wheelersburg. The only team they completely shut down their guards and still lost was Eastern Pike. I don’t think Greenfield has a Michael Miller. Should be a great game and very fun to watch!

If Waverly plays like they did against Jackson and Oak Hill both times I like their chances. Like you said, the Tigers controlled Eastern’s guards (was not hurt by Leist at all) but could not stop Miller. I don’t much about McClain but say they would be hard pressed to have a Miller, or Holden, or Noel. I think Waverly just needs come out ready play with high intensity and pressure, make a good % of their shots and knock down FT’s.

For Waverly to be successful the Seniors have to control
the tempo, and make free throws.

[SEOAL74]

All those details don’t get noticed by coaches.

I simply tried to give some reasoning behind the 7 seed.

Coaches look at who you beat — they don’t look at losses near as much. They just don’t.

I used your schedule after January 1 because you had a change which affected how your team was viewed and performed.

Washington can relate and empathize as we lost 21 points a night after the Adena game plus 2 who definitely would have helped off the bench.

The coaches this year — I think across all divisions — looked at more than win-loss record. People have been complaining for years that strength of schedule should matter and they moved in that direction this year and it’s not surprising that people from communities and schools who had better records aren’t happy.

Zach Fleer of 270hoops.com comprised a ratings system to help with the seeding of the huge central district.

He gave teams a rating and then bonus points for Good Wins and then took away points for bad losses.

He gave nothing or no merit for losses to teams equal or better than you. Losing to those teams don’t prove anything other than you lose to quality teams.

And to be totally honest I think it’s Strength of Wins not strength of schedule.

Fair or not that’s what measures teams for the most part — strength of wins.

Don't take me wrong were ok with the 7 seed and I believe we can advance thru the 7 seed but a team that's is 9 and 11 is the 6 seed I wish we would have played them.

Ironton from our league Plays Zane Trace tomorrow we will see how strong our league is after that game.

I just heard Zane Trace beat Ironton @ Ironton by a point. My Adena team got upset tonight, but it just shows you how good Zane Trace is to go onto the Tigers court and win.

I believe they are now 17-4 with losses to Hilliard Davidson, Gahanna Lincoln, Johnstown Monroe and Greenfield. This pioneer team could have been 20-1 if they didn’t schedule that tough of a schedule.

Gallia played Ironton twice loss lost by 2 pts and could tie game with last shot rimming out @ Ironton and loss by 6 pts in double OT @ Gallia and if Gallia makes their free throws at the end of regulation and first over time we would have won the game. By the way Ironton is not the best team in our league Fairland is that should show you how good Galla league is Zane Trace a top seed beat Ironton by a single point. Coal Grove beat Ironton once and Fairland beat both of them twice.

[Ironman92]

Don't take me wrong were ok with the 7 seed and I believe we can advance thru the 7 seed but a team that's is 9 and 11 is the 6 seed I wish we would have played them.

Ironton from our league Plays Zane Trace tomorrow we will see how strong our league is after that game.

I just heard Zane Trace beat Ironton @ Ironton by a point. My Adena team got upset tonight, but it just shows you how good Zane Trace is to go onto the Tigers court and win.

I believe they are now 17-4 with losses to Hilliard Davidson, Gahanna Lincoln, Johnstown Monroe and Greenfield. This pioneer team could have been 20-1 if they didn’t schedule that tough of a schedule.

Gallia played Ironton twice loss lost by 2 pts and could tie game with last shot rimming out @ Ironton and loss by 6 pts in double OT @ Gallia and if Gallia makes their free throws at the end of regulation and first over time we would have won the game. By the way Ironton is not the best team in our league Fairland is that should show you how good Galla league is Zane Trace a top seed beat Ironton by a single point. Coal Grove beat Ironton once and Fairland beat both of them twice.

None of that matters. Jackson has lost several
close ones and so has Gallia. Jackson doesn’t have much success on the road as far as beating good teams and Gallia the same.

One of us will be taking that resume to the Convo

[SEOAL74]

I just heard Zane Trace beat Ironton @ Ironton by a point. My Adena team got upset tonight, but it just shows you how good Zane Trace is to go onto the Tigers court and win.

I believe they are now 17-4 with losses to Hilliard Davidson, Gahanna Lincoln, Johnstown Monroe and Greenfield. This pioneer team could have been 20-1 if they didn’t schedule that tough of a schedule.

Gallia played Ironton twice loss lost by 2 pts and could tie game with last shot rimming out @ Ironton and loss by 6 pts in double OT @ Gallia and if Gallia makes their free throws at the end of regulation and first over time we would have won the game. By the way Ironton is not the best team in our league Fairland is that should show you how good Galla league is Zane Trace a top seed beat Ironton by a single point. Coal Grove beat Ironton once and Fairland beat both of them twice.

None of that matters. Jackson has lost several
close ones and so has Gallia. Jackson doesn’t have much success on the road as far as beating good teams and Gallia the same.

One of us will be taking that resume to the Convo

Gallia has got to beat River Valley first and then weary about Jackson. Never under estimate your opponent. Gallia has beat them twice so Gallia should win and I believe they will take care of business and if they do should be a good game against the Ironmen.

[joemama]

First off seeding went exactly as I saw it weeks ago. I will say again that all FAC teams top to bottom should have the competitive edge. They constantly battle and are hands down the best league in seo. Now they might come out and all lose but besides ZT and warren Sheridan we should all cruise into the convo! Having said this Waverly warren and ZT are all playing good ball. Let not the best team win but the team that will refuse to lose win! Someone is gonna go take it! wins and losses no longer matter. is your team battle tested? Let’s all stay healthy and bring our best. Good luck to all teams!

One other thing let’s hope the refs let the boys play it’s been stated earlier no tick tack calls. I can’t think of anything worse than refs deciding any of these games. We all want to see physicality be rewarded!

This... this is something- FAC best league? With the exception of Chilly- average teams- they may not get a team to Districts... except Chilly. This made my Valentine..

[allamericanironman]

First off seeding went exactly as I saw it weeks ago. I will say again that all FAC teams top to bottom should have the competitive edge. They constantly battle and are hands down the best league in seo. Now they might come out and all lose but besides ZT and warren Sheridan we should all cruise into the convo! Having said this Waverly warren and ZT are all playing good ball. Let not the best team win but the team that will refuse to lose win! Someone is gonna go take it! wins and losses no longer matter. is your team battle tested? Let’s all stay healthy and bring our best. Good luck to all teams!

One other thing let’s hope the refs let the boys play it’s been stated earlier no tick tack calls. I can’t think of anything worse than refs deciding any of these games. We all want to see physicality be rewarded!

This... this is something- FAC best league? With the exception of Chilly- average teams- they may not get a team to Districts... except Chilly. This made my Valentine..

Joe’s mommy you nailed it girl!

“Too early to tell- FAC teams often bow out early in tourney. Very competitive conference, relatively speaking. Bet ya there are 0 FAC teams in Top8 by Feb1.” - joesmommy

Your a FAC troll.