December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

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December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by mattash » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:23 am

anyone have this score?



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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Hawks1112 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm

I had to call the AD from Frontier, but Frontier won 61-33

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:20 pm

Frontier schedule is bad.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by carbon_dated » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm

Frontier beat Bellaire St. John tonight. It wasn't close.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm

Hawks1112 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm
I had to call the AD from Frontier, but Frontier won 61-33
Fort out here playing Meadowbrook , Warren , John Marshall , Hiland and Cambridge. Mean while Frontier playing Bellaire St John , East Richland and Wood County Christian.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm

carbon_dated wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm
Frontier beat Bellaire St. John tonight. It wasn't close.
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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Hawks1112 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:04 pm

I was reading the sports preview from the wheeling newspaper, Bellaire St John's only dress six players no jv some of the other players are not eligible because of the new transferre rules, going to be very long year for the Irish, I guess there not a member of the ohsaa this year

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:45 am

EasternDspy wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm
Hawks1112 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm
I had to call the AD from Frontier, but Frontier won 61-33
Fort out here playing Meadowbrook , Warren , John Marshall , Hiland and Cambridge. Mean while Frontier playing Bellaire St John , East Richland and Wood County Christian.
Lol. Fort Frye is now playing teams, their own size (enrollment), or teams that are bigger(enrollment). Some of these smaller teams in the PVC, have been doing this for years. Looks like Frontier is getting hate, for playing a smaller school than them. Sounds hypocritical
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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:39 am

Movsportsfan wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:45 am
EasternDspy wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm
Hawks1112 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm
I had to call the AD from Frontier, but Frontier won 61-33
Fort out here playing Meadowbrook , Warren , John Marshall , Hiland and Cambridge. Mean while Frontier playing Bellaire St John , East Richland and Wood County Christian.
Lol. Fort Frye is now playing teams, their own size (enrollment), or teams that are bigger(enrollment). Some of these smaller teams in the PVC, have been doing this for years. Looks like Frontier is getting hate, for playing a smaller school than them. Sounds hypocritical
Fort Frye has always played the best schedule in the PVC. Playing very small schools like that will not make Frontier better in the long run. Everyone makes the tourney so it makes sense to schedule up and get better.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:57 am

Movsportsfan wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:45 am
EasternDspy wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm
Hawks1112 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm
I had to call the AD from Frontier, but Frontier won 61-33
Fort out here playing Meadowbrook , Warren , John Marshall , Hiland and Cambridge. Mean while Frontier playing Bellaire St John , East Richland and Wood County Christian.
Lol. Fort Frye is now playing teams, their own size (enrollment), or teams that are bigger(enrollment). Some of these smaller teams in the PVC, have been doing this for years. Looks like Frontier is getting hate, for playing a smaller school than them. Sounds hypocritical

Don’t get it twisted Fort is still a small school playing much larger teams that none of the PVC schools would play. Fort does not really have a choice as most schools D3 or D4 won’t play them. Without open enrollment adjustment Fort has 131 boys and everyone in the PVC acts like they are so much larger. Fort is playing teams 3 times that.

John Marshall Around 500
Warren 294
Morgan 218
Cambridge 234
Meadowbrook 210



Fort Frye 131


Frontier 80

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by PVCGuru » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:29 am

Frontier isn’t good and they know it. Who do you want them to play?

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am

Fort Frye should schedule bigger teams. They dont get to play anyone in the PVC, that is their size. The small schools in the PVC, play their bigger teams in conference every year. They dont have to go looking for teams. Fort Frye has the same results, when they schedule up, they lose. Just like, when the PVC small schools has to play Fort Frye.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:34 am

Movsportsfan wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am
Fort Frye should schedule bigger teams. They dont get to play anyone in the PVC, that is their size. The small schools in the PVC, play their bigger teams in conference every year. They dont have to go looking for teams. Fort Frye has the same results, when they schedule up, they lose. Just like, when the PVC small schools has to play Fort Frye.
You act like Fort Frye is gigantic they fluctuate from 118-150 every year they are not a big school at all. Fort plays teams 3 times as big. That’s a weak excuse bro. Frontier left PVC because they can’t compete. You’ll never get better scheduling morale victories. Fort has less basketball players almost every year and they still win way more then they lose. This is like the Waterford dude complaining that Fort is so much bigger in Football yet Fort had 32 guys and Waterford 40 on the football team.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:35 am

Fort has had a freshman team like 3 times in 20 years give me a break.

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:10 pm

Your enrollment numbers do fluctuate, but they are always way higher than Caldwell and Frontier. Those schools are experiencing a decline in numbers. Those schools have never reached 119-150 in enrollment. Not even, when their numbers were at their highest. I think it’s hilarious, that the big school bully is mad, that they may have to compete with someone their size or bigger. You will see less banners, but it will make you better. And teams are leaving because they cant compete?? These schools are looking for a small school conference, where its an even playing field. Thats what Fort Frye should want also
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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 pm

Fort Frye has a great sports program. They have great coaching, and a great community. But the biggest reason for their success, has been their enrollment. Waterford made a decision to leave the PVC, and it paid off. They played less competition, and it got kids interested in sports again. Waterford is the same type of school, as Caldwell, Monroe, and Frontier.
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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 pm

Waterford has been a better overall sports program than Fort Frye. They have had a lot of success, and they have small enrollment numbers, like some of these Pvc teams. Do you remember, what Waterford was like in the PVC? They were the doormat of the conference. Look at them now

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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by Movsportsfan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:54 pm

EasternDspy wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:35 am
Fort has had a freshman team like 3 times in 20 years give me a break.
Lol, Great point. Most of these schools dont know what a freshman team is..they dont have jv teams most of the time. And do you really think, that if the rest of the Pvc teams had the same exact enrollment, Fort Frye would still have the same success???? Its not like they have better athletes, they just have more good athletes on a roster. That is the difference, they have more kids, to choose from.
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Re: December 4, 2018 Frontier - East Richland

Post by EasternDspy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:19 pm

Movsportsfan wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:54 pm
EasternDspy wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:35 am
Fort has had a freshman team like 3 times in 20 years give me a break.
Lol, Great point. Most of these schools dont know what a freshman team is..they dont have jv teams most of the time. And do you really think, that if the rest of the Pvc teams had the same exact enrollment, Fort Frye would still have the same success???? Its not like they have better athletes, they just have more good athletes on a roster. That is the difference, they have more kids, to choose from.

Last 5 years Fort has been struggling to even have enough for JV we’re talking 6-8 players. Just because a school has a higher enrollment doesn’t mean they have more basketball or football players. I do think if they were even Fort would still be successful they’ve built a program that starts at the younger levels. These kids go to basketball camp at a young age and learn the basic ideals of Fort Frye basketball. Look at Football for years Fort was terrible then they got right coach in there and he has system that these kids know by the time they are freshman. You act like enrollment has always had huge gap that just isn’t true Frontier was in 90s and Fort was at 120 just a few years ago. Fort Frye girls sports is D4 how do they keep up the dominance? It’s just a lazy excuse to blame lack of success on school size. Even Frontiers AD wanted to stay in PVC but football coach and Girls basketball coach didn’t wanna play Fort Frye and Shenandoah. Frontier won’t grow playing smaller schools. Roger is a great coach and a friend. I know he is doing best he can do with what he has.

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