2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Chieftain2009 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:35 pm

Logan looking pretty good in their two shootouts they've played. They've gone 5-1 and only lost to Newark in a game they hung in for a long time.


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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by danicalifornia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:07 pm

Unioto has been solid so far. Only losing to City League teams, but were still competitive, which is a good sign.

Getting better defensively to go with what should be a dynamic offense. Returning the top 4 scorers from last year. Finding a good mix for depth will be key, the top 6 in the rotation is going to be very good, just finding 7-8-9 is big. Should be another fun year in Frenchtown for the Sherman Tanks.

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by pfloyd » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:29 pm

... it looks like the committee of one will not be putting out the PreSeason Elite 8 until after next Wednesday 6/21 ... Unioto is having it's Super Shootout that day at the HS & Junior High Gyms - a great lineup of teams !!! :

Unioto
Dayton Northridge
Vinton County
South
Chillicothe
Dunbar
Fairland
Fairfield Union

... looks like my SEOhio "elite" teams on my Short List are all playing - Unioto who returns their 4 top scorers . Vinton County with Naylan Yates & Co., Chillicothe with Brandon Maughmer & Co. , D3 Final 4 squad Fairland who returns their entire starting 5 , Fairfield Union who is the odds on favorite to win the MSL again this season led by Cincinnati University bound Colin Woodside ...

ALL of these teams will be in my top 15 Preseason rankings ... going to be a fun day of hoops on the 21st ...

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Truth&fiction » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:33 am

pfloyd wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:29 pm
... it looks like the committee of one will not be putting out the PreSeason Elite 8 until after next Wednesday 6/21 ... Unioto is having it's Super Shootout that day at the HS & Junior High Gyms - a great lineup of teams !!! :

Unioto
Dayton Northridge
Vinton County
South
Chillicothe
Dunbar
Fairland
Fairfield Union

... looks like my SEOhio "elite" teams on my Short List are all playing - Unioto who returns their 4 top scorers . Vinton County with Naylan Yates & Co., Chillicothe with Brandon Maughmer & Co. , D3 Final 4 squad Fairland who returns their entire starting 5 , Fairfield Union who is the odds on favorite to win the MSL again this season led by Cincinnati University bound Colin Woodside ...

ALL of these teams will be in my top 15 Preseason rankings ... going to be a fun day of hoops on the 21st ...
This will be a great summer day of hoops. Good teams . What's the Format and is there a schedule posted ?

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Preacher Purl » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:02 pm

I was told Hillsboro beat Unioto last weekend. I don't think they're a city league team.

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by danicalifornia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:53 pm

Preacher Purl wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:02 pm
I was told Hillsboro beat Unioto last weekend. I don't think they're a city league team.
Eh, may have. That wasn't one of the teams I was told, I was told that Hillsboro was much improved though.

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by pfloyd » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:23 am

Super Shootout today at Unioto 9-3'ish ... hopefully most of each teams roster is there today ...

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Post by IronTough2 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 am

Yes. At the Hillsboro shootout, Hillsboro beat Unioto. Came down to the wire and ended up a last shot situation. Physical ball game.

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Post by Ukfanatic » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:25 pm

Didn't get to come today. Any updates!

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Post by danicalifornia » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:31 pm

A couple teams didn't make it, so 6 schools and they each got 7 games in.

Unioto went 4-3, lost to Fairfield Union, Fairland, and Cols South by a combined 7 points. Sounds like the teams got a lot of work in.

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Post by Ukfanatic » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:36 pm

Thanks for the update Dani. Did Waverly make it?

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Post by pfloyd » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:46 pm

... an excellent day spent at Unioto watching some quality basketball teams show what they have coming back for the 2017-18 season - I walked into the HS gym at the U this morning meeting up with Coach Hoops - I told Coach that it was great to hear the sounds - of course he wasn't sure what I was talking about - I explained that it was great to hear the sounds of the squeaking shoes and basketballs hitting the floor ... makes me feel right at home, makes me feel that I'm right where I should be ...

... I went to the U with a purpose - I already KNEW what each of the teams had returning , I already have Unioto , Fairfield Union, Vinton County & Fairland in the upper 10 of my Pre-Season rankings ... what I needed was answers to "How will Vinton County be without the services of a true PG ? How will Coach Combs replace Tristan Bartoe ? What does Waverly have this season? Will the Tigers try to turn every game into a track meet? Have the boys from Fairland improved after their Final 4 appearance of this past Spring? Is FU still THE team to beat in the MSL ? Do the Shermans have a chance to have players beyond their 4 scorers from last season? ... See!!! I can't JUST watch the game of basketball! I have to dissect teams & players when I sit in the cheap seats (smh) ...

Vinton County? How do you replace a Tristan Bartoe? - the obvious answer is "you don't" - you can't fill those shoes and go on with "business as usual" ... and from what I saw today Coach Combs & his staff aren't going that route at ... I took away from the scrimmages at the U for VC - this is Naylan Yate's team ... Naylan Yates IS outstanding - he has unlimited range, as quick as anyone in SEOhio, gets to the rim ... he's going to need help offensively - the perimeter scoring from what I saw will be there ... VC will miss the player who can handle the ball and get to the rim whenever they want kind of PG aka a T. Bartoe ... a player who CAN fill part of that "list of needs" is Jake Speakman - J Speakman IS quick enough to get to the rim - he will need to be MORE offensive minded this season from the perimeter ... today the offense looked to be set up with getting the Viking shooters THEIR shots - perimeter shots ... last year's VC squad was a parade of guards relentlessly taking the ball into the lane - this year ? we'll see who develops into the PG that can get to the rim/knockdown the 3 and distribute the ball while playing D & beating the press ... sounds like a 5 man job called TEAM to me ... Vinton County IS in my top 8 in the preseason ...

Waverly ? ... I was pleasantly surprised by what Coach Robertson will be putting on the floor this season ... very athletic, good size, strong with the ball ... an overall good perimeter shooting team with players who can get to the rim ... depth might be an issue but the Tigers will be just fine on the hardwood again this coming season ...

Fairland ? ... the Dragons of Coach Speed & Coach Salyers ? Isaiah Howell, Ty Staten, Luke Thomas,Kollin Van Horn, Gunner Short, Keedrick Cunningham - I don't have to say more other than D3 Final 4 last season ... the Dragons had NO seniors on the Final 4 team from last season ... I was kidding when I told Ty Staten today that today's performance determined whether Fairland would be #1 or #2 on my pre-season rankings LOL ... I was talking with Ty Staten's dad while watching FHS playing FU & Waverly - it was pleasure to meet you Chris Staten and your son Ty ... I mentioned some of the things that make Fairland such a tough matchup - size, speed, defensively quick, look to score in transition & have the players to finish in transition , multiple perimeter scorers, guards who can penetrate - score & dish , throw in a legitimate BIG MAN in the middle in Mr. Van Horn - Kollin Van Horn makes FHS so much better offensively AND DEFENSIVELY as the perimeter folks can get into passing lanes without worrying as much about being out of position ... no weaknesses in the Dragons ... probably the biggest hurdle for the Green & White will be jumping up to D2 in the post season ... by the way surprise Fairland IS my #1 ...

Fairfield Union ? ... Coach Eversole's Falcons stack up as the 2nd most complete TEAM that I saw today and WILL debut as my #2 in the preseason rankings ... Colin Woodside, Lucas Thompson, Evan Conley, Spencer Conrad, Huston Harrah,Brad Miller, Bradey Lounsebury - speed on the perimeter, Big Man in the Middle, guards who can handle pressure, guards who can get into the paint & finish, scoring on the perimeter ... hmmmmm sounds familiar ... I'm a big fan of Colin Woodside as a true post player for the Falcons ...having Evan Conley for all 22 regular season games this season is huge - the Jr. PG is the real deal ... FU at #2 in the preseason Elite 8 ...

Unioto ? Coach Hoops has the luxury of having his top 4 scorers returning from last season's 18-6 squad - Logan Swackhammer, Brandon Kennedy, Gabe Fisher, Peyton Hill ... all looked solid in today's scrimmages ... Quality PG - check, Perimeter scoring - check, inside strength - check, quick defensively - check, varsity experience - check , big game experience & success - check, physical strength - check ... the question mark for the Shermans will be depth or more specifically varsity experience /role players who can give good minutes and bench points ... the athleticism IS there it will be interesting to see where these potential role players stand/fit in when December rolls around ... the U WILL be in my top 5 to start the season in December ...


... wow, the room at the top of the Elite 8 preseason is pretty crowded already ! with 4 of my top 8 teams already accounted for in today's Unioto Shootout ...

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Truth&fiction » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:44 pm

Good run down floyd . There are alot of good teams in SEO and I'm sure there will be some surprises . Are you going to the OU Team camp this weekend ?
There should be some heavy hitters from around the state . Maybe some of your elite will match up with some teams they normally do not see. You did not say much about the defensive play except for Fairland. Are your Elite Teams quick to the ball , do they switch smoothly , do they help defensively , do they use a 2 man trap , do they disguise their defense and dictate the pace of the game ? Maybe I will run into you at the CONVO. Thanks again for the info.

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by bman » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:21 pm

pfloyd wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:46 pm
... an excellent day spent at Unioto watching some quality basketball teams show what they have coming back for the 2017-18 season - I walked into the HS gym at the U this morning meeting up with Coach Hoops - I told Coach that it was great to hear the sounds - of course he wasn't sure what I was talking about - I explained that it was great to hear the sounds of the squeaking shoes and basketballs hitting the floor ... makes me feel right at home, makes me feel that I'm right where I should be ...

... I went to the U with a purpose - I already KNEW what each of the teams had returning , I already have Unioto , Fairfield Union, Vinton County & Fairland in the upper 10 of my Pre-Season rankings ... what I needed was answers to "How will Vinton County be without the services of a true PG ? How will Coach Combs replace Tristan Bartoe ? What does Waverly have this season? Will the Tigers try to turn every game into a track meet? Have the boys from Fairland improved after their Final 4 appearance of this past Spring? Is FU still THE team to beat in the MSL ? Do the Shermans have a chance to have players beyond their 4 scorers from last season? ... See!!! I can't JUST watch the game of basketball! I have to dissect teams & players when I sit in the cheap seats (smh) ...

Vinton County? How do you replace a Tristan Bartoe? - the obvious answer is "you don't" - you can't fill those shoes and go on with "business as usual" ... and from what I saw today Coach Combs & his staff aren't going that route at ... I took away from the scrimmages at the U for VC - this is Naylan Yate's team ... Naylan Yates IS outstanding - he has unlimited range, as quick as anyone in SEOhio, gets to the rim ... he's going to need help offensively - the perimeter scoring from what I saw will be there ... VC will miss the player who can handle the ball and get to the rim whenever they want kind of PG aka a T. Bartoe ... a player who CAN fill part of that "list of needs" is Jake Speakman - J Speakman IS quick enough to get to the rim - he will need to be MORE offensive minded this season from the perimeter ... today the offense looked to be set up with getting the Viking shooters THEIR shots - perimeter shots ... last year's VC squad was a parade of guards relentlessly taking the ball into the lane - this year ? we'll see who develops into the PG that can get to the rim/knockdown the 3 and distribute the ball while playing D & beating the press ... sounds like a 5 man job called TEAM to me ... Vinton County IS in my top 8 in the preseason ...

Waverly ? ... I was pleasantly surprised by what Coach Robertson will be putting on the floor this season ... very athletic, good size, strong with the ball ... an overall good perimeter shooting team with players who can get to the rim ... depth might be an issue but the Tigers will be just fine on the hardwood again this coming season ...

Fairland ? ... the Dragons of Coach Speed & Coach Salyers ? Isaiah Howell, Ty Staten, Luke Thomas,Kollin Van Horn, Gunner Short, Keedrick Cunningham - I don't have to say more other than D3 Final 4 last season ... the Dragons had NO seniors on the Final 4 team from last season ... I was kidding when I told Ty Staten today that today's performance determined whether Fairland would be #1 or #2 on my pre-season rankings LOL ... I was talking with Ty Staten's dad while watching FHS playing FU & Waverly - it was pleasure to meet you Chris Staten and your son Ty ... I mentioned some of the things that make Fairland such a tough matchup - size, speed, defensively quick, look to score in transition & have the players to finish in transition , multiple perimeter scorers, guards who can penetrate - score & dish , throw in a legitimate BIG MAN in the middle in Mr. Van Horn - Kollin Van Horn makes FHS so much better offensively AND DEFENSIVELY as the perimeter folks can get into passing lanes without worrying as much about being out of position ... no weaknesses in the Dragons ... probably the biggest hurdle for the Green & White will be jumping up to D2 in the post season ... by the way surprise Fairland IS my #1 ...

Fairfield Union ? ... Coach Eversole's Falcons stack up as the 2nd most complete TEAM that I saw today and WILL debut as my #2 in the preseason rankings ... Colin Woodside, Lucas Thompson, Evan Conley, Spencer Conrad, Huston Harrah,Brad Miller, Bradey Lounsebury - speed on the perimeter, Big Man in the Middle, guards who can handle pressure, guards who can get into the paint & finish, scoring on the perimeter ... hmmmmm sounds familiar ... I'm a big fan of Colin Woodside as a true post player for the Falcons ...having Evan Conley for all 22 regular season games this season is huge - the Jr. PG is the real deal ... FU at #2 in the preseason Elite 8 ...

Unioto ? Coach Hoops has the luxury of having his top 4 scorers returning from last season's 18-6 squad - Logan Swackhammer, Brandon Kennedy, Gabe Fisher, Peyton Hill ... all looked solid in today's scrimmages ... Quality PG - check, Perimeter scoring - check, inside strength - check, quick defensively - check, varsity experience - check , big game experience & success - check, physical strength - check ... the question mark for the Shermans will be depth or more specifically varsity experience /role players who can give good minutes and bench points ... the athleticism IS there it will be interesting to see where these potential role players stand/fit in when December rolls around ... the U WILL be in my top 5 to start the season in December ...


... wow, the room at the top of the Elite 8 preseason is pretty crowded already ! with 4 of my top 8 teams already accounted for in today's Unioto Shootout ...
Division II will once again be a bear. It'll be interesting to see how the sectionals are aligned with the additions of Fairland, Westfall and Zane Trace and the departures of Chillicothe and Meigs from D2. Fairland isn't an easy fit in either sectional.

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by danicalifornia » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 pm

Unioto is 9-3 through 2 days at OU. Losses against Copley, Miamisburg, and Eastmoor Academy. Local teams they have played are Logan, Newark Catholic, Fed Hocking, Wellston, and Portsmouth.

They are playing without 3 rotation players for next season, including 4 Year PG Logan Swackhammer. Swack was there for Friday night against NC, Copley, Newton Falls, and Hardin Northern. Really good experience is being gained for some of the guys who didn't get a lot of PT last year.

Edit: Finished 12-4 during full games and 13-5 overall. Very good weekend for the Shermans to come together as a team.
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Post by Truth&fiction » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:58 am

Enjoyable day at the Convo for the OU Team camp . Soon found that the Convo was the place to be ( Seating ) . Saw a number of good teams . Saw a number of good players but will not name any for this is a shootout with 1 16 min running clock and there was a lot of substituting. Saw some very close games with a couple sudden death overtime . Appears some coaches know what they have and played a lot of players with different combinations . Not a bad idea if you as a coach feel the need . Saw some good HOOPS . Saw a lot of different styles . Some teams have to play physical because they lack skills otherwise to compete . Not much officiating and I'm sure because of time restraints. Saw teams inter acting between games and that was good . SEO people be proud of your teams they are working hard . Did see Federal Hocking play under their new head coach . Lots of work to be done but make no mistake they play hard and they appear wanting to learn. Good luck to all the teams !

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Lovebball42 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:53 pm

I heard Waterford will play Fairland this year.. can anyone confirm that?

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Tri-StateYouthSports » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:14 pm

Waterford is not listed on Fairland's current schedule. No opponent is listed for the following:
  • Southern Hills Classic
  • Big E Classic
  • Beast of the Southeast
  • Flying to the Hoop

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Post by Truth&fiction » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:18 am

Back to the Convo yesterday wanted especially to see Copely and Eastmoor. If its like last year that Eastmoor comes back to The Convo for Reg. they will be a handful . Saw some other good games and some 5 min . overtime tourney. Good HOOPS !!

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Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?

Post by Falcon01 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:14 pm

Heard eastmoor beat Fu in the finals??

Eastmoor will probably be top 3 in first state pool and a state title contender. They're gonna be very very good.

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