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Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:28 pm
by pfloyd
... Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6 ...

1. Vinton County (9-0)
2. Fairland (8-1)
3. Fairfield Union (9-1)
4. Miami Trace (8-2)
5. Warren (7-2)
6. Unioto (8-3)
7. Waterford (5-2)
8. Athens (6-1)


... TreeHugger Wannabes ...

Marietta (5-3)
Oak Hill (10-0)
Logan (4-5)
Chillicothe (4-5)
Sheridan (7-3)
Waverly (8-1)
Logan Elm (6-5)
Lynchburg Clay (6-3)
Western Pike (5-3) / Eastern Pike (8-2)
Portsmouth East (5-2)
Portsmouth (5-2)
20 Portsmouth Clay (7-2)
Ironton (6-3)
South Point (6-2)
Eastern Brown (7-3)
South Webster (4-4)
Portsmouth Notre Dame (7-2)
Washington CH (5-5)
Minford (5-3)
Meigs (7-4)
Paint Valley (8-5)
30 Peebles (5-3)
North Adams (7-5)
Wheelersburg (3-3)
Fairfield Leesburg (7-2)
Adena (6-3)
Jackson (6-7)
Gallia Academy (5-3)
Nelsonville York (7-3)
Alexander (3-6)
Coal Grove (5-3)
40 Trimble (4-4)
Southern (5-4)
Greenfield McClain (4-7)
Piketon (4-7)
Zane Trace (3-7)
Circleville (4-5)
Wahama (4-4)
Huntington (4-7)
New Lexington (4-6)
Manchester (3-8)
50 St. Joseph (4-5)
Symmes Valley (4-3)4
Belpre (2-7)
Reedsville Eastern (3-4)
River Valley (4-8)
Chesapeake (2-5)
Southeastern (3-8)
Lucasville Valley (1-6)
Miller (2-4)
Wellston (2-7)
60 Hillsboro (1-8)
Portsmouth West (2-5)
Green (2-7)
New Boston (2-4)
Crooksville (2-6)

... Teams on the End Table ...

South Gallia (1-7)
West Union (1-7)
Rock Hill (1-7)
Westfall (0-10)
Northwest (1-8)
Whiteoak (1-8)
Federal Hocking (0-11)


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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:41 pm
by Phoenix31
Fairland loses by 22 yesterday at Hilliard Bradley and drops to #2 in the poll.

...so glad that Portsmouth travels to Fairland on Tuesday after a Fairland loss...sarcasm intended

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:43 pm
by Chieftain2009
Good stuff! Busy week for #11 Logan.

Tuesday @ #1 Vinton County
Friday vs. #35 Jackson
Saturday @ Watkins Memorial

Logan currently has two wins against the top 8, will they finish this week with 3 wins against the top 8?

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:51 pm
by Ironman92
Looks really good...can't argue too much. Really not a single team you could greatly argue is 3-4 spots from where you have them.

Still don't have a good feel on Lynchburg Clay or Peebles.

Who did Gallia Academy lose to last week?

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:57 pm
by brown22
Glad to see Green and New Boston off the End table.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:58 pm
by pfloyd
Ironman92 wrote:Looks really good...can't argue too much. Really not a single team you could greatly argue is 3-4 spots from where you have them.

Still don't have a good feel on Lynchburg Clay or Peebles.

Who did Gallia Academy lose to last week?

... Ironton 43-56 ...


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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:04 pm
by 93Bulldog
LOVE IT!

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:06 pm
by Ironman92
brown22 wrote:Glad to see Green and New Boston off the End table.
Who has each beaten? I never see their scores.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:08 pm
by pfloyd
... for those saying that Fairland took on D1 Hilliard Bradley , AT HB ... that they shouldn't drop out of #1 - I thought through that argument ... I looked at the other teams who lost this week - Warren to a 1 loss now 2 loss Meadowbrook team - the Warriors were dropping one position ... Waterford lost to 2 loss Fort Frye - FF would be in the Elite 8 IF they were in the SE District - the H2O boyz were dropping with their loss ... Marietta lost BIG to the same Meadowbrook team that beat Warren by 1 point - the Tigers were dropping out of the top 8 with their loss ... Logan lost to Bloom Carroll/Sheridan lost to TriValley/Chillicothe lost to Vinton County - ALL of these teams were going to drop in the rankings ... granted IF Fairland had played the HB closer THAT might have entered into the discussion BUT they didn't , it was a 20 point game from the end of quarter #3 until the end of the game ...


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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:17 pm
by pfloyd
New Boston wins over Northwest & Rose Hill KY ... with a near miss this week vs St Joe 51-55 ...
Green wins over Covenent WVa & Rock Hill ...

... I should have Northwest & Whiteoak switched around as Northwest's only W is over Whiteoak ... I'll fix that one ...


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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:39 pm
by 93Bulldog
I struggle with Miami Trace at #4 after the shellacking they received from LE.

:)

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:47 pm
by 93Bulldog
Can we get an alternative Elite 8 with Morgan, Fort Frye & Meadowbrook?

I'm curious where you'd have those teams ranked versus our district.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:54 pm
by brown22
Ironman92 wrote:Looks really good...can't argue too much. Really not a single team you could greatly argue is 3-4 spots from where you have them.

Still don't have a good feel on Lynchburg Clay or Peebles.

Who did Gallia Academy lose to last week?
My Eagles play Lynchburg Clay Jan,21 at the Dave Young Classic to finish our New Years stretch against the SHAC. We played Peebles last night they aren't as strong as past years the Gordlley kid is pretty tough to stop under the rim, Indians just not a real deep team. 2 of the Indians 3 loses are from Soc1 teams (Eastern,Western).

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:02 pm
by whsball
It's STILL...early. I'd like to see the qualities wins of the Top 8-15. Some teams schedules aren't quite the same as others. I'd also be interested to know how many coaches have control over their scheduling....

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:03 pm
by whsball
Also...may need to go to a D2- D3/4 Top 8....as if pfloyd doesn't have enough to do...(tongue in cheek)

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:13 pm
by pfloyd
93Bulldog wrote:I struggle with Miami Trace at #4 after the shellacking they received from LE.

:)

... Logan Elm can be very dangerous imo ... inconsistency scoring wise by the role players is an major issue BUT when everyone joins the Ridge Young scorefest LE will beat you ... Miami Trace HAS as much or more talent than the majority of the top 20 teams ... THE weak link isn't on the court imo ... I wouldn't want to play either one of these teams in the post season ... Logan Elm will not get a high seed in Logan ... one of the higher seeds is going to have to put it on the line vs the Braves & Coaches Stiverson & Holbert ... if I'm Fairfield Union/Athens/Warren/Vinton County I would be losing a whole lot of sleep between now and sectional seeding time ... that #1 seed is going to be a very very valuable commodity imo ... Meigs has won 7 in a row ... Gallia Academy with 3 losses to date ... New Lex only lost to a very good Morgan squad this past week by one point 59-60 ... Marietta will beat you if you your bench is too short - bring your track shoes ... FU gets deeper with the addition of a PG after one more game ... Warren has lost to only 1 team this season - Meadowbrook by a total of 5 points between the 2 losses to Meadowbrook ... Athens is as deep as any team in the Sectional ... Vinton County IS the best team in the sectional ... Sheridan is the blue collar team in the sectional - nothing flashy /all business/ and all the pieces a good ...






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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:15 pm
by Truth&fiction
Pfloyd does good work but I have to look at Athens . They have played only really one quality team and that was VC and got beaten pretty bad . Yes they did play LE on Athens Floor but LE is struggling . VC WILL HAVE THEIR WAY with Athens . I will say Athens has one very good player but that is not enough . Hats off to Fairland in traveling to Big town to play some big boy basketball .

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:20 pm
by 93Bulldog
Truth&fiction wrote:Pfloyd does good work but I have to look at Athens . They have played only really one quality team and that was VC and got beaten pretty bad . Yes they did play LE on Athens Floor but LE is struggling . VC WILL HAVE THEIR WAY with Athens . I will say Athens has one very good player but that is not enough . Hats off to Fairland in traveling to Big town to play some big boy basketball .
Don't worry, you'll get your wish soon enough.

Parkersburg on Tuesday
at No. 2 Fairland on Saturday
at New Lex next Tuesday
at No. 5 Warren next Saturday
at #1 Vinton County on 1/27
at Meigs on 1/31
Bishop Watterson 2/4
#9 Marietta 2/11
at undefeated Morgan on 2/14

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:29 pm
by donaldtrump
I agree totally with pfloyd's rankings.....Vinton should go ahead of a fairland team who not only lost to Hilliard Bradley but lost convincingly by 22 points...Vinton County has a really good team...A team I think would beat Fairland in my opinion....Would love to see both these teams make this game possible.....Also don't count Athens out against Fairland unless their missing players or something.....Fairlands not invincible and if their not hitting 3's very beatable by a lot of teams.......

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:33 pm
by Truth&fiction
I'm not worried at all cause I do not have a DOG in the fight. Looks like schedule is looking up . Good luck to the Bull Dogs.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:42 pm
by Ironman92
pfloyd wrote:New Boston wins over Northwest & Rose Hill KY ... with a near miss this week vs St Joe 51-55 ...
Green wins over Covenent WVa & Rock Hill ...

... I should have Northwest & Whiteoak switched around as Northwest's only W is over Whiteoak ... I'll fix that one ...


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Whiteoak though has a better win than Northwest as they beat D3 Clermont Northeastern by 15 on the road and then lost to D2 Batavia (7-3) by 3...neutral site

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:44 pm
by Dundas
Pfloyd, I've been following your elite 8 for years now and I'm pretty sure that this is the first time Vinton County has sat at the top of the heap. Hard to believe with all the talented teams that have come and gone over the last 10+ years, but I'm pretty sure that I'm correct. Hopefully VC can keep rolling and stay in that #1 position! See you Tuesday!

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:13 pm
by Chieftain Fan
Good job Pfloyd on the rankings. Vinton County could run the table this year. For sure you took the pressure off the Chieftains . We will leave the kids and the coon dogs at home Tuesday so you and Mrs. Floyd can sit close to Ma and I .

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:31 pm
by biggdowgg
Wow!!! Ole 93bulldog must have sent a whole case of popcorn and twizlers ,lol.


By the way who is the best win for VC?

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:39 pm
by enigmaax
93Bulldog wrote:Can we get an alternative Elite 8 with Morgan, Fort Frye & Meadowbrook?

I'm curious where you'd have those teams ranked versus our district.
Saw that Morgan (West Muskingum) & Meadowbrook (Steubenville) each lost their first game of the season over the weekend. Morgan plays Athens & Meadowbrook back to back in February, maybe the last week of the regular season?

Fort Frye & Morgan used to play each other in the first game of the year for several years. Would've been an interesting match up this season.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:51 pm
by Dragon's Lair
donaldtrump wrote:I agree totally with pfloyd's rankings.....Vinton should go ahead of a fairland team who not only lost to Hilliard Bradley but lost convincingly by 22 points...Vinton County has a really good team...A team I think would beat Fairland in my opinion....Would love to see both these teams make this game possible.....Also don't count Athens out against Fairland unless their missing players or something.....Fairlands not invincible and if their not hitting 3's very beatable by a lot of teams.......
You obviously have not seen Fairland play if you think we live and die by the 3. I don't have a problem with Fairland dropping in the rankings, even tho people on here see the final of losing by 22 but have no idea how the game went. Down 3 at the end of 1. Down 6 at halftime. And down 2 a couple min into the 3rd. Then HB went on a run that we couldn't answer and got down 10 or 12. Game over from there. You can't turn them over or speed them up and they are very disciplined on offense and can run clock and take care of the ball. So the 22 point spread is a little deceiving, but it is what it is. There isn't another southeastern ohio team that can beat them either. Especially up there. I beg to differ about fairland being very beatable by a lot of teams. It takes something special to get us. I'd play that game every year cause it makes us go get better. Our eye is on the big prize in Columbus and not trying to stay atop of the southeastern ohio rankings.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:56 pm
by VisionQuest
Truth&fiction wrote:Pfloyd does good work but I have to look at Athens . They have played only really one quality team and that was VC and got beaten pretty bad . Yes they did play LE on Athens Floor but LE is struggling . VC WILL HAVE THEIR WAY with Athens . I will say Athens has one very good player but that is not enough . Hats off to Fairland in traveling to Big town to play some big boy basketball .
Not to take anything away from VC-We all realize they are Exceptional-but you will have that with a Seasoned Head Coach and players who have been through thick and thin together over the years...With that being said-As far as Athens goes-Not near enough credit is being thrown to 1st Year Coach Mickey Cozart-He is 6-1 coaching a team that has had a limited bench and even his starting 5 have only played together in limited capacity as a Team over the last couple of years and under a different head coach at that. He had 2 Games under his Belt when he had to Face VC. As he gets more experienced and the players start to Mesh and Assume roles and get to working his System I have a feeling Athens will be a Force come Tournament time. Case in point the most recent win against a "hot at that time LE team"-4 players for Athens were in Double Digits. Yes they have some Huge Non-Conference games coming up-going to win some-going to lose some-But Most definitely and importantly they will LEARN from them all...

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:10 pm
by Ironman92
Dragon's Lair wrote:
donaldtrump wrote:I agree totally with pfloyd's rankings.....Vinton should go ahead of a fairland team who not only lost to Hilliard Bradley but lost convincingly by 22 points...Vinton County has a really good team...A team I think would beat Fairland in my opinion....Would love to see both these teams make this game possible.....Also don't count Athens out against Fairland unless their missing players or something.....Fairlands not invincible and if their not hitting 3's very beatable by a lot of teams.......
You obviously have not seen Fairland play if you think we live and die by the 3. I don't have a problem with Fairland dropping in the rankings, even tho people on here see the final of losing by 22 but have no idea how the game went. Down 3 at the end of 1. Down 6 at halftime. And down 2 a couple min into the 3rd. Then HB went on a run that we couldn't answer and got down 10 or 12. Game over from there. You can't turn them over or speed them up and they are very disciplined on offense and can run clock and take care of the ball. So the 22 point spread is a little deceiving, but it is what it is. There isn't another southeastern ohio team that can beat them either. Especially up there. I beg to differ about fairland being very beatable by a lot of teams. It takes something special to get us. I'd play that game every year cause it makes us go get better. Our eye is on the big prize in Columbus and not trying to stay atop of the southeastern ohio rankings.
49-31 after 3.

Huge challenge obviously for Fairland and hopefully seeing that talent will help you guys through the regionals.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:32 pm
by Truth&fiction
Lets just see how the next few weeks pan out . You still have to play good competition to go far and be a force in the tournament. If they pickup some key victories your point will be well taken. D2 tourney will pit some of the best teams against each other early on . Fairland Playing HB is the real deal . As far as the Athens coach he may prove to be a good coach but his inexperience should not be an excuse .

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:04 pm
by VisionQuest
Truth&fiction wrote:Lets just see how the next few weeks pan out . You still have to play good competition to go far and be a force in the tournament. If they pickup some key victories your point will be well taken. D2 tourney will pit some of the best teams against each other early on . Fairland Playing HB is the real deal . As far as the Athens coach he may prove to be a good coach but his inexperience should not be an excuse .
I would classify his "inexperience" more so a Factor than an Excuse. The same way I would classify the Athens players lack of playing together as a Team in limited capacity a Factor and Add in a new system with a new Head Coach-yes these are Factors-Not Excuses. These are important Factors when you put them up early in the season against a Head Coach who has been around for a Long time and has players who have played together for years and made a great run last year-it truly is a Well-Oiled machine . Athens simply does not have that right now, but are working on it game by game and headed in the right direction by the sign of their 6-1 Mark...

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:16 pm
by Truth&fiction
Your point is well taken . Sorry if I got off topic . I'll be checking your post in the upcoming weeks . Good luck to your Bull Dogs.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:50 pm
by VisionQuest
Truth&fiction wrote:Your point is well taken . Sorry if I got off topic . I'll be checking your post in the upcoming weeks . Good luck to your Bull Dogs.
Thank You...Sometimes we don't know the behind the scenes factors these Teams are dealing with-we don't have access to the Real Story...These open forums somewhat and sometimes allow us to Glean what we will from the Info given. Some of info is dead on, some of it is dead wrong...Nonetheless, it all gives us something to talk about, something to agree on or sometimes we just have to agree to Disagree...

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:17 pm
by george
Meigs at 28th Jackson 35th Gallia Academy 36th Both beat Meigs by 17

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:01 am
by LetsGoPSU
Another great post post full of great information, I like VC moving up but feel that Fairland is still the cream at the top as the year goes on, Would love to see The Trojans put one on em though!

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:13 am
by 93Bulldog
Too bad we couldn't have Athens vs Warren at 6:00 and Vinton County vs Fairland at 8:00 at the beasts of the southeast!

:)