Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #6

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Post by biggdowgg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:00 am

93Bulldog wrote:Too bad we couldn't have Athens vs Warren at 6:00 and Vinton County vs Fairland at 8:00 at the beasts of the southeast!

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I would gladly pay 20 bucks to see them two games!!



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Post by Ukfanatic » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:36 am

Would love to see a Vinton County Fairland matchup. Having only seen Fairland in a scrimmage setting I would like to see how Vinton County matches up with them. In my opinion Vinton county would win in a very competitive game.

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Post by tvc_fan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:37 pm

george wrote:Meigs at 28th Jackson 35th Gallia Academy 36th Both beat Meigs by 17
And if they were to play Meigs now they would be beat. Meigs was still looking for an identity and who the starters were gonna be the first 4 games. This is not the same Meigs team that was seen in weeks 1-4.

First 4 games we averaged 46 points a game, last 7 games we have averaged 68 points a game.

Will it be enough to compete with Athens or VC, Not sure, time will tell. People don't realize we have 3 boys that can score in the 20's and a few that can also be in double digits as well. If all the of our scorers are on, we will compete with the big dogs.

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Post by VisionQuest » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:50 pm

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george wrote:Meigs at 28th Jackson 35th Gallia Academy 36th Both beat Meigs by 17
And if they were to play Meigs now they would be beat. Meigs was still looking for an identity and who the starters were gonna be the first 4 games. This is not the same Meigs team that was seen in weeks 1-4.

First 4 games we averaged 46 points a game, last 7 games we have averaged 68 points a game.

Will it be enough to compete with Athens or VC, Not sure, time will tell. People don't realize we have 3 boys that can score in the 20's and a few that can also be in double digits as well. If all the of our scorers are on, we will compete with the big dogs.
If you recall last year I believe Athens started out in the same boat with an 0-4 record. They righted the ship and made a decent run until losing Griffin Lutz to injury in the 14th game of the season in the thrilling Win at VC. I am anxious to See if Your Marauders will shock us all and pull an upset on VC on 1/13...Good Luck

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Post by bbjunky81 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:21 pm

Let me preface this post by saying - Vinton County is very, VERY good! Not only are they the favorite in the D2 Southeast District, I think they have a legitimate chance to make it to the State Tournament.

With that being said, it's tough for Fairland to drop after the loss to Hilliard Bradley.. Those who haven't traveled that direction any doesn't quite understand just how good that team is. They have two legitimate D1 players in Isaiah Speelman and Braden Norris, and potentially another in freshman Matt Allocco.

This was big time scheduling by Fairland and I give them major props for it. Perhaps the loss by 22 is what makes it look somewhat bad, but trust me, Fairland wouldn't see a team that stacked til the Division 3 State Final (if even there).

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:55 pm

bbjunky81 wrote:Let me preface this post by saying - Vinton County is very, VERY good! Not only are they the favorite in the D2 Southeast District, I think they have a legitimate chance to make it to the State Tournament.

With that being said, it's tough for Fairland to drop after the loss to Hilliard Bradley.. Those who haven't traveled that direction any doesn't quite understand just how good that team is. They have two legitimate D1 players in Isaiah Speelman and Braden Norris, and potentially another in freshman Matt Allocco.

This was big time scheduling by Fairland and I give them major props for it. Perhaps the loss by 22 is what makes it look somewhat bad, but trust me, Fairland wouldn't see a team that stacked til the Division 3 State Final (if even there).
... I fully understand the WANT to keep Fairland in the #1 position ... I KNOW the talent on HB ... I KNOW the D1 in the Columbus area and what that entails being an opponent - Logan will see Hilliard Bradley here in Logan in February ... the 22 point loss seems to be about on the average point spread per outing between HB & ANY opponent ... I also feel that Fairland in order to NOT become complacent , to KEEP the youngsters grounded - a team such as HB had to be played ... I listened to the game - it WAS a game through one half - the overall talent (D1 talent - college level) was evident in the 3rd & 4th quarters for HB ... even for the best of the best to get better they have to run up against a team that by evaluating the film, teaching from the film will allow that already quality team to get to the next level - Fairland did that ... on the ranking side - I had to drop them a position ... I had other teams who "played up" as well that HAD to be dropped a position as well -Warren/Marietta/Waterford ... it ALL works out in the end - IF Fairland IS the king of the hill - they will get there by season's end ... same goes for Vinton County and the other 70 teams Below the Lancaster-Dixon Line ...

... I also get it when people on here say that IF Fairland isn't #1 these rankings aren't worth the napkins they're printed on ... all I can say is that we do the best we can with what we have and what we have "ain't" bad ...

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Post by tvc_fan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:20 pm

I think that people forget pfloyds rankings are only on here for a couple hundred to see and maybe 20 or so to discuss. They are based on what he knows and they aren't broadcast all over the internet or newspapers as national rankings. So what if a team dropped a spot?

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Post by biggdowgg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:22 pm

Pfloyd ,now I didn't go as far as saying your rankings don't amount to a hill of beans ,i did accuse you of taking a bribe from 93bulldog lol because we all know he's not above that :).

Your rankings keeps everyone in here talking ,i still think Matt should pay you big bucks.


By the way I found.some licorice in the " red hot" cinimon flavor,,,,i may share some ..or even give you your own bag at the beast of south east....

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:29 pm

... too bad we couldn't come up with an all day event using the Elite 8 rankings :

... SEOPs/Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio ...

12:00 Noon ... Marietta vs Oak Hill
1:45 ........... Athens vs Waterford
3:45 ........... Warren vs Unioto
5:45 ........... Fairfield Union vs Miami Trace
7:45 ........... Fairland vs Vinton County


* Lou Horvath "the voice of Basketball Thirty in SouthEast Ohio" on the PA
** 93bulldog & the 105.5/970WATH Sports Team broadcasting each game ...


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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:34 pm

biggdowgg wrote:Pfloyd ,now I didn't go as far as saying your rankings don't amount to a hill of beans ,i did accuse you of taking a bribe from 93bulldog lol because we all know he's not above that :).

Your rankings keeps everyone in here talking ,i still think Matt should pay you big bucks.


By the way I found.some licorice in the " red hot" cinimon flavor,,,,i may share some ..or even give you your own bag at the beast of south east....

LMAO biggdowgg ... I will definitely make my way to Chesapeake this weekend - I'll pack my Twizzlers for sure LOL ... 93bulldog doesn't bribe - he's too cheap ! if you recall he's famous for the hidden "Subway" sandwiches into the 3 Weeks of the Convo LOL ...

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Post by 93Bulldog » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:36 pm

The Purple Hippo Elite 8 Classic!

Awesome!

Held at Jim's gym over Xmas break.

brilliant!

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:38 pm

tvc_fan wrote:I think that people forget pfloyds rankings are only on here for a couple hundred to see and maybe 20 or so to discuss. They are based on what he knows and they aren't broadcast all over the internet or newspapers as national rankings. So what if a team dropped a spot?

... dang tvc_fan ! I was thinking that there might be millions of fans out there in SEOPs Land waiting with eager anticipation for the weekly rankings to come out !!! couple hundred ? hardly seems worth the traveling/writing/napkin stats/time involved ! :lol:


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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:40 pm

93Bulldog wrote:The Purple Hippo Elite 8 Classic!

Awesome!

Held at Jim's gym over Xmas break.

brilliant!

... ahhhhhhh but you forget 93bulldog - they don't like me here in the Land of the Purple & White ... ;)


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Post by 93Bulldog » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:40 pm

last weeks had 6,083 views, Floyd, if that makes you feel any better? lol

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Post by 93Bulldog » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:42 pm

pfloyd wrote:
93Bulldog wrote:The Purple Hippo Elite 8 Classic!

Awesome!

Held at Jim's gym over Xmas break.

brilliant!

... ahhhhhhh but you forget 93bulldog - they don't like me here in the Land of the Purple & White ... ;)


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McAfee Gymnasium it is then! Better location anyways. lol

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Post by trojandave » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:42 pm

I have to give props to Fairland for scheduling OUTSIDE the SE district, when so many SE schools don't. I still think the Dragons have the best chance of any school in the SE district in any division of making the Final 4.

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:50 pm

trojandave wrote:I have to give props to Fairland for scheduling OUTSIDE the SE district, when so many SE schools don't. I still think the Dragons have the best chance of any school in the SE district in any division of making the Final 4.
... I'm within the margin of error on the ranking of the Dragons !

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:54 pm

93Bulldog wrote:last weeks had 6,083 views, Floyd, if that makes you feel any better? lol

... I really didn't think I kept opening the Elite 8 rankings THAT MANY times ! ;)


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Post by brown22 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:31 pm

tvc_fan wrote:I think that people forget pfloyds rankings are only on here for a couple hundred to see and maybe 20 or so to discuss. They are based on what he knows and they aren't broadcast all over the internet or newspapers as national rankings. So what if a team dropped a spot?
Lol couple hundred. Its got that many views not long after it comes out.
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Post by TheFlyingDutchman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:51 pm

Great job as usual Pfloyd. One correction Ironton St. Joe is 5-5. The Flyers are down to 11 players JV and Varsity but hanging in there.

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Post by VisionQuest » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:57 pm

tvc_fan wrote:I think that people forget pfloyds rankings are only on here for a couple hundred to see and maybe 20 or so to discuss. They are based on what he knows and they aren't broadcast all over the internet or newspapers as national rankings. So what if a team dropped a spot?
I wouldn't doubt it if PFloyds rankings are on DryErase Boards in Locker Rooms and Coach's Offices across SE OHIO...And To that I say why not??....Give those boys something Else to shoot for or Use as a "measuring" stick or Coaches to use as a "motivational" Tool....As long as the Boys all realize it is what it is. And besides it Gives us all something to Banty on about on these Cold Winter days....

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:58 pm

TheFlyingDutchman wrote:Great job as usual Pfloyd. One correction Ironton St. Joe is 5-5. The Flyers are down to 11 players JV and Varsity but hanging in there.

...TheFlyingDutchman - thanks for the correction ... can you give me the 5 wins for St Joseph so I can get corrected on my Big Board ? thank you ...


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Post by Chieftain Fan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:15 pm

Floyd not sure about not being liked in the Land of Purple , could that be to stay on the good side of some posters? Just wondering if you will be wearing Purple and WHITE tomorrow night .

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:28 pm

VisionQuest wrote:
tvc_fan wrote:I think that people forget pfloyds rankings are only on here for a couple hundred to see and maybe 20 or so to discuss. They are based on what he knows and they aren't broadcast all over the internet or newspapers as national rankings. So what if a team dropped a spot?
I wouldn't doubt it if PFloyds rankings are on DryErase Boards in Locker Rooms and Coach's Offices across SE OHIO...And To that I say why not??....Give those boys something Else to shoot for or Use as a "measuring" stick or Coaches to use as a "motivational" Tool....As long as the Boys all realize it is what it is. And besides it Gives us all something to Banty on about on these Cold Winter days....

Oh GREAT VisionQuest !!! if PHS gets blown out (which I don't see according to my Old Ouija Board) I have to buy trojandave, biggdowgg & the rest of the Portsmouth contingent dinner at The Ribber ! because Fairland is "PO'd" that I drop them to #2 !!! LOL ... in all seriousness I try my best to make the rankings as "real" as possible - I DON'T "just wing it" - I DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY - all of the coaches/players & fans deserve a ranking that is "within the margin of error" ... not just for the Top 8 teams but for ALL of the teams Below the Lancaster-Dixon Line ...

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Post by pfloyd » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:43 pm

Chieftain Fan wrote:Floyd not sure about not being liked in the Land of Purple , could that be to stay on the good side of some posters? Just wondering if you will be wearing Purple and WHITE tomorrow night .

... I will definitely be wearing purple Chieftain Fan - I have ALWAYS supported the kids who wear the purple & white ... I probably shouldn't make that a blanket statement for purple fans/coaches I DO have support from the majority of Logan coaches/players ... so to answer your question did I say that to stay on the good side of some posters - no, not at all ... I have always treated Logan teams the same as I do all other schools/teams - I try to be as positive as possible no matter which school/players/teams/coaches I post about ...


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Post by Chieftain Fan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:48 pm

Spoken like a trooper. Keep up the good work and drive safe!!!!!!

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Chieftain Fan wrote:Spoken like a trooper. Keep up the good work and drive safe!!!!!!
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Post by tvc_fan » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:20 am

Back on the old board yes maybe there was that much interaction and legit views, but sorry, SEOP has died down. There is hardly any talk by different members, all the same people. so 6,000 and some views is many of the same people going back and looking at it. Only 20 people has left a message...I'm not knocking it by any means, I was taking up for pfloyd for his hard work and dedication, and someone complaining that their team dropped a spot.

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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:39 am

tvc_fan wrote:Back on the old board yes maybe there was that much interaction and legit views, but sorry, SEOP has died down. There is hardly any talk by different members, all the same people. so 6,000 and some views is many of the same people going back and looking at it. Only 20 people has left a message...I'm not knocking it by any means, I was taking up for pfloyd for his hard work and dedication, and someone complaining that their team dropped a spot.
Maybe I missed it but did Meigs get a player or two back from injury or are they just figuring it out since the start of the season?

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Post by tvc_fan » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:57 am

Ironman92 wrote:
tvc_fan wrote:Back on the old board yes maybe there was that much interaction and legit views, but sorry, SEOP has died down. There is hardly any talk by different members, all the same people. so 6,000 and some views is many of the same people going back and looking at it. Only 20 people has left a message...I'm not knocking it by any means, I was taking up for pfloyd for his hard work and dedication, and someone complaining that their team dropped a spot.
Maybe I missed it but did Meigs get a player or two back from injury or are they just figuring it out since the start of the season?
Bartrum came back from Injury and has averaged about 6-8 points a game (for some reason most of these are foul shots) but he is the PG in which has allowed Mattox (19ppg), Musser (12ppg) and Mahr (12ppg) more opportunities to put up shots. Them 3 are averaging 43 points a game in the last 7 games, and then Kennedy has been hitting the boards and averaging 10 points a game. Then some key points from the bench.

Totally different team then what we seen the first 4 games.

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Post by Orange and Brown » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:14 am

tvc_fan wrote:Back on the old board yes maybe there was that much interaction and legit views, but sorry, SEOP has died down. There is hardly any talk by different members, all the same people. so 6,000 and some views is many of the same people going back and looking at it. Only 20 people has left a message...I'm not knocking it by any means, I was taking up for pfloyd for his hard work and dedication, and someone complaining that their team dropped a spot.
Pfloyd is one of the biggest traffic drivers on this site. Lots and lots of non members come to this site for the elete 8 rankings.
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Post by Firebreather » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:57 am

Ranking shakeup material. Van Horn injured at practice yesterday. Out for a while I heard. Definitely wont play this weekend

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Post by 93Bulldog » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:37 pm

Who does he play for?

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Post by bbjunky81 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:29 pm

93Bulldog wrote:Who does he play for?

Big guy for Fairland.. definitely a "blow" to them, but their front 6-7 kids is so daggon good I don't see them missing much of a beat.

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Post by LetsGoPSU » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:48 pm

As stated by most, in the end it will all come together, tough break for the injured young man, but Fairland has the tools, the Trojans will have our hands full

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