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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Ty Webb » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:55 pm

A solid win for VC tonight & also great to see Tristan Bartoe get his 1,000. point in the 2nd quarter. This young man is so much fun to watch. He can spot up & shoot, but he's even more effective at taking it to the rack. Great talking with pfloyd tonight too.



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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Truth&fiction » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:03 pm

Made the trip over to Vinton County .Had not seen the Vikings this year and I was impressed.Logan was in it pretty good until a couple minutes left in 2nd but Barton went crazy. Tough atmosphere for such a young team . My guess is next meeting will be a better game at Logan and next year watch out if they play . Vikings could run the table and go deep in tourney but they will have to get their big men more involved in th O. It will be a real fluke if they are tested in the TVC FOR SURE.

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain Fan » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:09 pm

Corey stated both halves but quickly came out . I assuming that being under the weather was reason.

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby pfloyd » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:13 am

Logan 54
Vinton County 77 a final ...

... it's a week night ... I'm old & have a day job so there won't be any "play by play" on this ... I'll cut to the chase and do my best Joe Friday imitation by just giving the facts :

*** Vinton County WAS DEFINITELY the better TEAM tonight at VC
*** Logan got schooled in every phase of the game tonight at VC
*** the calling of timeouts usually tells you about how games are going ... IF that is the case this one was over early as Logan called 2 timeouts in the FIRST QUARTER to try to keep contact with the Vikings ... 1st qtr. TOs ALL Logan 4:45 LHS trailing 5-8 ... 1:52 LHS 6 VC 13 ... 2nd Quarter more of the same with VC extending it's lead 2nd Qtr. Logan TO 2:45 remaining Logan 20 VS 28 ... the final TO of the game was again called by Logan in the 3rd Qtr. @ the 6:34 mark of the 3rd Logan trailing 27 to 44 ... Coach Combs called no TO's in the game as Vinton County had this one solidly in hand at all qtr breaks :

VC 17 Logan 11 end of 1
VC 38 Logan 25 at intermission
VC 53 Logan 38 after 3
Vinton County 77 Logan 54 a final


*** Congratulations to Tristan Bartoe for joining the 1000 point Club tonight ... Tristan needing 15 points to reach the "1K" mark tonight TB opened the game with 12 first quarter points then eclipsed the 1000 point mark in the 2nd with 2 circus fg's at the rim and 7 pts in the qtr. 19 points for the senior PG by intermission ...

*** THE Vinton County 4 headed scoring machine of Tristan Bartoe/Naylan Yates/Derrick Jones & Jake Speakman dented the scoreboard for 69 of the VC 77 points ... Jake Speakman was held scoreless for the game ! so the Vikings point makeup was that Bartoe/Naylan Yates & Derrick Jones put up 89.6% of the VC scoring tonight ... the key in my mind is that Vinton County HAD 3 SCORERS AGAIN ... most teams are lucky to have 2 players to carry the load pointwise VC had 3 tonight AND a 4th proven scorer didn't dent the scorebook ...

*** Vinton County IS the BEST team I HAVE seen (so far) this season in the SouthEast District ...
*** some of the imo's I jotted down during the game on my napkins :
- Logan tried to stop the VC scoring by having 6-5 post player Caiden Landis guard Naylan Yates in the first half 9 pts for Yates in that first 2 qtrs. with Tristan Bartoe getting 19 in the same 2 qtrs ... 2nd half had Landis on Bartoe - Bartoe only had 5 points in the 3rd & none in the 4th while Naylan Yates took over the slack adding 18 points in the 2nd half AND Derrick Jones got loose for 10 points of his own in the 4th quarter alone ... too many TRUE scoring options for the Vikings ... sort of like playing the arcade game Wack-a-Mole ... you think you have stopped THE scoring option only to have 2 more scoring options jump up and get you just like those pesky moles ... too many moles popping up to hit them all ...


... Pfloyd's Official "unofficial" Napkin Stats - Logan ...

Scoring ... Bo Myers 21, Caiden Landis 20, Caleb Bell 8 , Kory Henthorne 2, Wes Brooks 2, Coby Bell 1
3 pointers ... 5/26 ... Bo Myers 4, Caleb Bell 1
FTs .......... 9/12
TOs ......... 15
PntP ........ 28
Points in Transition ... 0
Logan goes 7 deep ...


... Logan imo could totally be in the same position as Vinton County NEXT season scoring wise - Bo Myers shoots the 3 ball as well as anyone ... Caiden Landis has not reached his potential in the paint yet this year - NEXT YEAR he will be a stronger 6-5 post player - tonight he had 20 points ... add another scoring option getting to the rim and on the perimeter with Caleb Bell (8 points) ... next year will have Layton Cassidy up from the JVs - Cassidy is another player who is deadly from behind the arc/ has quicks on the defensive side as well, a nonstop motor at both ends of the floor ... better things are on the horizon for the Chieftains ... will they be as quick as VC ? I haven't seen ANY team as quick, or that can put the kind of perimeter pressure on as the Vikings can AND Vinton County plays the physical/no hands/beat you up with the body/move your feet/fundamentally sound defense - might be too much to ask of the Purple ... Logan will get a 2nd shot at Vinton County in about 4 weeks AT Logan ... the rematch will be fun to watch ...


... Pfloyd's Official "unofficial" Napkin Stats - Vinton County ...

Scoring ... Naylan Yates 27, Tristan Bartoe 24, Derrick Jones 18, Eli Griffith 4, Bryce Damron 2, Nevan Yates 2, Jake Speakman 0
3 pointers ... 11/20 ... Naylan Yates 5, Tristan Bartoe 4, Derrick Jones 2
FTs .......... 6/9
TOs ......... 13
PntP ........ 36
Points in Transition ... 12
Fast Break Points .... 8
Vinton County goes 9 deep


... saw a few posts questioning Coach Combs keeping his starters in ? Logan had their starters in mixed with 2 subs the whole game and into the later stages of the 4th ... VC played 9 tonight - had many combinations of these 9 the WHOLE game and in the latter minutes of the 4th quarter - they ARE THAT deep and THAT good ... VC DID pull the ball out in the 4th - more motion in the man offense, took time off the clock ... had they not called off the dogs it might have been in the mid 80's ... I heard the Logan radio announcers saying that VC has no weakness - offensively the Vikes have 4 guards who can ALL get to the rim - defensively opponents have to account for and try to stop the penetration ... if you don't stop the penetration you end up allowing 4 VC players to get to the rim (ie Chillicothe did not stop the penetration VC put 48 points on the board from IN THE PAINT/AT THE RIM) ... when you relatively slow down the penetration into the paint VC will continue to drive BUT will dish to the perimeter - nothing like having Bartoe get into the paint only to kick it back out to Naylan Yates (5 treys tonight) or vice versa Yates into the paint dishing to Bartoe or Jones or Speakman ... OR all 4 will take you to the rim only to give it up to Griffith or Damron ... talk about a "cluster - - - - " to try to defend ! I get it - you CAN slow the machine down for minutes during a game - especially early - but you have to commit on the defensive end to stop it for 32 minutes of relentless attacks at the rim every possession ... VC is darn good ... I totally enjoy watching the Vikes ... fundamentally sound basketball has the opportunity to beat anyone you go up against ... throw in basketball talent on top of the fundamentals - now you have a winning combination ...


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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:24 am

Great run down pfloyd, I was not there but listened on the radio, VC has 4 legitimate scorers, I think if the post players contribute even more VC will be nearly unbeatable come tournament time.

Once Landis reaches his potential he'll be a beast. One thing that even the Logan radio guys don't talk much about for Myers at Logan is how good he is at getting to the rim as well. He'll get 2-4 3-balls a game, and the rest of his points come at the rim, he also leads Logan in rebounds and assists, or at least did a week ago. Still Logan is very young and one could only hope this time next year, they'll be as good or near as good VC is this year.
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby pfloyd » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:38 am

Myers is still learning to be a scorer... he shoots the 3 ball so well teams have get out on him - if they don't it's almost automatic put a 3 in the book ... if they extend out to put pressure on him he does EXACTLY as he should - put it on the floor and take it to the rim ... he's a very nice player AND long !

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Truth&fiction » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:45 am

Like I said I was at the game last night (seen the Chiefs couple times ) Logan will surprise some teams . One point and very specific was the only time Landis was on Bartoe was on a switch nothing more. Posters on here are like a lot in other areas they see certain things . Logan offense starts with motion and then it success depends on ball rotation . Each game that I was at the ball rotation stops . One or two more passes would create a better shooting opportunity . I do not have a dog in the fight but I do look at the technique and fundamentals and the people of Logan should be proud of such a young team . Vinton County is for real . Post what you want BUT THE MORE EXPERINCE TEAM WON in a very tough atmosphere.

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby loganlocos » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:42 am

floyd -

Thanks for the run down. Excited for the future of Chieftain hoops.

And again, continue to be impressed with Coach Combs and his program down in McArthur. Still remember him bringing his team up to Logan and winning on senior night my junior year of high school - against arguably the most talented and successful class in school history.

Hope the Vikings can make a long run in March. But after a loss to the purple crew in February :)

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby hannancoach » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:19 am

I can not figure out why these schools wont play us.....Could it be possible that our dominance over Athens years ago has scared them off?

Thoughts?

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain Fan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:37 pm

Do not know what school is yours but by all means please call our AD and after this year we will be looking for games I'm sure. And I doubt that VC would be afraid to play you either!

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby noreply66 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:25 pm

hannancoach wrote:I can not figure out why these schools wont play us.....Could it be possible that our dominance over Athens years ago has scared them off?

Thoughts?


Lets see the prove of this dominance....or the most goes
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain Fan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:08 pm

2009 I find it a little odd after a loss that I'm sure the WHOLE TEAM took hard that you are worried about praise for one player and lack of by the radio guys. Scott and Misti ( wade in football ) looks at things in an impartial way . The Chieftains are all friends and the biggest asset will be unity throughout their years .

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:22 pm

Chieftain Fan wrote:2009 I find it a little odd after a loss that I'm sure the WHOLE TEAM took hard that you are worried about praise for one player and lack of by the radio guys. Scott and Misti ( wade in football ) looks at things in an impartial way . The Chieftains are all friends and the biggest asset will be unity throughout their years .


I definitely did not mean it in that way. Scott and Misty do a great job, and I love listening to them! I don't think (or hope) any took that the wrong way.
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:30 pm

hannancoach wrote:I can not figure out why these schools wont play us.....Could it be possible that our dominance over Athens years ago has scared them off?

Thoughts?


What school are you referring to?
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain Fan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:33 pm

"UNITY" among players, coaches ,fans and radio announcers will make this a strong program and glad you are along for the ride . Go Chiefs!!!!!

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:35 pm

Chieftain Fan wrote:"UNITY" among players, coaches ,fans and radio announcers will make this a strong program and glad you are along for the ride . Go Chiefs!!!!!


Agreed! Go Chiefs!
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby pfloyd » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:07 pm

Ty Webb wrote:A solid win for VC tonight & also great to see Tristan Bartoe get his 1,000. point in the 2nd quarter. This young man is so much fun to watch. He can spot up & shoot, but he's even more effective at taking it to the rack. Great talking with pfloyd tonight too.


... Tristan Bartoe has met every challenge he has faced off the court and on the court ... a cancer survivor as a youth - he's a winner - he doesn't know how to lose ... it shows on the court ... in his career at VC THE PG in SouthEastern Ohio that all others are compared is Griffin Lutz of Athens - a great talent - when VC has played Athens THAT matchup of PGs - Lutz vs Bartoe- has been there naturally ... TB has never backed down from the challenge - he has ALWAYS accepted the challenge and taken it right at Griffin Lutz - imo they BOTH have the ability to beat you off the dribble /get to the rim ... Tristan Bartoe is BETTER than G Lutz in that he HAS the perimeter/3 point shot to go with the ability to breakdown a defense & get to the rim or get into the lane and find either the open perimeter shooter or a big in the paint ... I told a VC gentleman I was sitting beside last night - yes in my purple - it has been a total pleasure to have been able to watch Tristan Bartoe play the game of basketball ... one of the best to ever play the game Below the Lancaster-Dixon Line ...

... Ty Webb ! always a pleasure to share game thoughts & talk hoops with you when I come to McArthur ! ...

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 pm

I don't believe I said anything about this yet. Congrats to Mr. Bartoe on surpassing 1,000 career points!!
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby noreply66 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm

Chieftain2009 wrote:I don't believe I said anything about this yet. Congrats to Mr. Bartoe on surpassing 1,000 career points!!


2nd this
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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby pfloyd » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:29 pm

Truth&fiction wrote:Like I said I was at the game last night (seen the Chiefs couple times ) Logan will surprise some teams . One point and very specific was the only time Landis was on Bartoe was on a switch nothing more. Posters on here are like a lot in other areas they see certain things . Logan offense starts with motion and then it success depends on ball rotation . Each game that I was at the ball rotation stops . One or two more passes would create a better shooting opportunity . I do not have a dog in the fight but I do look at the technique and fundamentals and the people of Logan should be proud of such a young team . Vinton County is for real . Post what you want BUT THE MORE EXPERINCE TEAM WON in a very tough atmosphere.


... in the game I watched last night at VC ... Landis picked up Bartoe defensively in the 2nd half , chasing him in the half court ... I noted it in my napkin stats because it surprised me somewhat BUT when Caiden had either Naylan Yates (1st half) or Tristan Bartoe (2nd half) he held them to their lowest output of the game ... when they were each defended by someone else was when they both went off offensively ...

... Logan has excellent basketball players even the players you attribute to being young have varsity experience from last year - Bo Myers (10), Caiden Landis (11), Caleb Bell (10) all lettered varsity last season which correct me if I'm wrong is directly the result of playing time on varsity last season ... Coby Bell saw varsity minutes and he may have earned a varsity letter as well (less PT than Caleb for sure but dressed varsity and saw the floor) ... Kory Henthorne (12) varsity letterman ... Colton Dixon (12) & Wes Brooks (10) both were on JV last year ... compare that to Vinton County Derek Jones (12) starter last year, Tristan Bartoe (12)- 1000 point man for a reason, Caleb Montgomery (12), Antonio Mendes (12) limited PT all saw action due to the deep VC bench used by Coach Combs ... Jake Speakman (11) limited mintues last year, Naylan Yates (11) - 6th man last year ... Bryce Damron (10) & Eli Griffith (10) neither with varsity experience last year ... the Logan sophomore starters have as much varsity experience as the VC juniors or very close ... Logan is young in "physcial" development but they do have varsity experience/AAU experience equivalent to most VC players ... and I too totally believe NEXT year is THE year for LHS to show the biggest improvement as the players will have developed physically and this sophomore class's potential as seniors is as much as they want to make it - it will be fun to watch for sure ... we're half way thru the season not sure you can lay the "W" entirely on VC experience anymore ... when Logan gets the "W" in Logan in a month do we then say the Logan inexperience was the reason they got the "W" ? or at what point do we keep saying because LHS is young ... it great that these kids are youngster as the potential is BIG, AND we get to see them play for 2 MORE YEARS ... I can already see improvement in the Logan bench - 2 players Wes Brooks and Colton Dixon ... Wes is ALREADY at the halfway point MORE confident in himself playing at the varsity level ... he's 5-10 maybe and bangs INSIDE , crashes the boards with the bigs and is quicker so he gets a lot of boards ... last night he had a putback bucket as well ... Colton Dixon has earned more PT in the last 4-5 games , he is an excellent outside shooter but you can still see him adjusting the speed/pressure of the varsity game ... as far as a tough atmosphere - wait until Logan goes to the Warrior Dome again LOL ... I didn't think the VC atmosphere was THAT tense other than the pressure/tenaciousness created by the VC players ... we might see something similar by the Jackson team this Friday as far as on ball pressure , scrappy, get in your face , in your pocket defense ... not the talent of VC but Coach Morrow has those kids believing they can be in and win every game they play ... they have taken on the attitude of Coach Morrow - they play like he did as Jackson player ... I don't see where any Logan fan is NOT proud of the way the kids from Logan play - Logan fans filled the visitors side last night in McArthur as they will travel well with the team the rest of the season ...

... Congratulations to the Freshmen & JV teams last night with "W's" over Vinton County ...

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Chieftain Fan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:41 am

Not sure what you two are talking about on the guarding of Bartoe. First ,congratulation to the young man for obtaining 1000 points . That is quite the a feat in it self . I'M not going to agree or disagree with either. I've seen all the games this year and Logan has strickly played a man defense and there is constant switching and fighting thru screens . That being said it would be hard to imagine that particular matchup being setup by this coaching staff. I'm sure Floyd you can find this out for sure . What I saw was a Guard to Guard matchup with alot of switching . Heck I saw our PG on their 6-8 guy . I think it's at the moment of the switching that may have that appearance . So you both could be right . One thing for sure is this group WILL GET BETTER . 2things that they lack ( especially when Corey not in ) is one overall strength ( which is coming) and two lack of depth . I agree the meaning in being young is the fact of their physical makeup not their experience . Yes VC was a tough place to play and the young team did not loose their composure like teams in the past . They will not loose it at Warren either . They represent their school well , never trash talk the other team and accept win and losses as we should . That just my take on it and just looking to get the Chiefs back to a WIN . GO Chiefs!!!!!!!!

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Re: Logan @ VC 1/10

Postby Truth&fiction » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:01 pm

Floyd you must have spilled soda on napkin .I sure you are close to at least one coach ask him if said player was switched to Barton . The truth is said player had Yates both halves . Now I 'm done with this . I enjoyed my trip over and good to see The young man get his 1000 point.


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