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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:32 pm
by Phoenix31
pfloyd wrote: ... when Waterford lost at Portsmouth - they still had 2 starters in dress clothes ...which had 2 role players taking over starting roles... which meant Waterford had very little coming off the bench ... PHS got a bump with the "W" but I did not send Waterford crashing with that loss ... the H2O guyz are loaded with proven talent from last years Convo run team ... the Elite 8 are the Elite 8 for a reason - I KNOW those teams , I KNOW what they have returning, I have SEEN what they have returning ... Waterford deserves to be there ...
I am not questioning Waterford's ranking.

I am questioning how low you have Portsmouth and Coal Grove.....especially since Portsmouth just went cold in the 4th quarter with a lead against Coal Grove.

Portsmouth should be in the Top 15.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:51 pm
by pfloyd
... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:02 am
by bbjunky81
js7_22 wrote:#27 Notre Dame travels to #15 Western and wins 66-54.
#18 East gets blown out by #14 Eastern 79-64
#19 Clay blows out #63 Green 74-45

South Webster some how lets go of a 10 point lead to lose by 9 to Oak Hill. I still think Webster is the top dog in that sectional. Them and Eastern would be a great game.
They "somehow" lost an 8 point lead by not handling pressure. Turnovers and excellent 3 point shooting by Waverly won them the game.

I think we're all seeing that the top of the SOC 2 is better than most expected. South Webster, Waverly, Wheelersburg, and Oak Hill are all very solid and can beat each other on any given night --- especially at home. If Waverly can force turnovers, they're really good.

South Webster will be fine. They are very well coached and just have some kinks to work through. A loss on the road against a 5-1 Waverly team isn't exactly some horrendous season ending loss. They'll be much better the next time they see Waverly.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:12 am
by Phoenix31
pfloyd wrote:... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...
I see.

Give Waterford a pass, but not Portsmouth.

Gotcha.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:14 am
by Chieftain2009
Phoenix31 wrote:
pfloyd wrote:... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...
I see.

Give Waterford a pass, but not Portsmouth.

Gotcha.
It'll be okay, we are only 3 weeks into the season.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:35 am
by formerfcfan
Phoenix31 wrote:
pfloyd wrote:... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...
I see.

Give Waterford a pass, but not Portsmouth.

Gotcha.
Heard the Portsmouth kids can't sleep at night because of this.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:44 am
by bbjunky81
formerfcfan wrote:
Phoenix31 wrote:
pfloyd wrote:... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...
I see.

Give Waterford a pass, but not Portsmouth.

Gotcha.
Heard the Portsmouth kids can't sleep at night because of this.

Portsmouth also loses to Coal Grove, who is young/rebuilding and frankly not very good this year, but Phoenix believes one key win should propel them into the top 15. Brilliant!

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:36 pm
by white thunder
Fairfield Leesburg 60-37 win over North Adams.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:21 pm
by Prime Time
Pfloyd you are the best ambassador of basketball ever. Love what you do and continue the great work. Merry Christmas to you and a healthy New Year.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:22 pm
by Prime Time
Waterford will be fine. When it's all said and done they will be a hard out.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:44 pm
by pfloyd
Prime Time wrote:Pfloyd you are the best ambassador of basketball ever. Love what you do and continue the great work. Merry Christmas to you and a healthy New Year.
... thank you for the kind words Prime Time (your check will be in the mail LOL) ... I agree on Waterford - too much talent on that team to NOT get it done again this season ... I have talked to coaches of teams who play the H2O boyz - every single one of them have nothing but praise for the kids of Waterford ... a key thing I noticed when I talk with opponent coaches of Waterford is that each coach has a different take as to which Waterford player hurts THEM the most imo THAT says a lot about the Waterford TEAM - that on any given night, any one of those kids delivers depending on what the opponent tries to take away - Coach Simms' boyz have an answer - someone different steps up , and from my own "eye tests" there is a lot of individual talent on that team both starting and as role players ...

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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:44 pm
by LetsGoPSU
The Trojans have plenty of time to make a jump, Just have to play hard and get wins, Im fine with where they are right now, its a long season and Im looking for improvement each week. Go Trojans

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:51 pm
by mrwonderful
Portsmouth will be lucky to be in the top 4 of the OVC alone in my opinion.....I actually don't even see them as an above average team.....I've been wrong before but I'd put Portsmouth as mid-level team at best..... As the weeks go on we'll get a better indication on where everyone belongs...I've changed my mind on a few teams only 3 weeks into season. I'm sure i'll change my mind again as more games are played and we get more looks and game comparisons....

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:22 pm
by pfloyd
Phoenix31 wrote:
pfloyd wrote:... they lost to #44 ... they're not top 15 - yet ... they have lots of time to move up ...
I see.

Give Waterford a pass, but not Portsmouth.

Gotcha.
... it's not about giving one team a pass and one not ... Portsmouth has to prove they can hold leads, shoot the 3 pointer (which apparently they did not in the game vs Coal Grove) - PHS did not shoot the 3 pointer well vs Waterford either ... the Trojans have to beat a #44 ranked team - they did not ... PHS beat Waterford - Waterford was down 2 key players and still built a double digit lead that PHS over took in the 2nd half - I saw it , I was there ... I've also seen 18 of my top 24 teams ... 12 of my top 15 teams if you consider that Fairland is the exact same team with a years experience that Coach Speed had last year you can make that 13 of the top 15 ... Portsmouth is not at this time a top 15 team imo ... the teams in red I have not seen THIS year - doesn't mean I don't know them Lynchburg Clay (although losing last night by 2 points to Eastern Brown) has 3 returning starters from the final 4 team of last year ... Oak Hill, Western Pike, Waverly, South Webster I have not seen as yet - I will put eyes on Waverly, Piketon, Western Pike & again Eastern Pike next Thursday at the Pike County Holiday Tourney in Waverly ... I will get to compare what these teams bring to the court as compared to the other top teams ... you can call it whatever YOU want - even WITH a win over Coal Grove - Portsmouth doesn't fit into top 15 based on what I have seen ...

1. Fairland (4-0)
2. Vinton County (4-0)
3. Fairfield Union (3-0)
4. Miami Trace (5-1)
5. Warren (3-0)
6. Unioto (4-1)
7. Waterford (2-1)
8. Lynchburg Clay (4-0)


... TreeHugger Wannabes ...

Athens (4-1)
Marietta (3-1)
Logan (2-1)
Logan Elm (3-1)
Sheridan (4-1)
Eastern Pike (4-1)
Western Pike (4-0)
Chillicothe (2-3)
Oak Hill (5-0)
Portsmouth East (2-1)
Portsmouth Clay (4-2)
20 Waverly (4-1)

South Point (5-1)
South Webster (4-2)
Portsmouth (1-1)
Washington CH (4-1)


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Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:56 pm
by Prime Time
I think Eastern Pike has one of top coachs in Ohio Tom Barrick. eagles will be a force come tourney time. Waterford vs Eastern Pike. A battle of the best.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:57 pm
by Prime Time
Also Stormin Norman will have the Oaks at the top of SOC. they are the real deal

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:59 pm
by Prime Time
another oberservation that Logan, Athens, Marietta all should be ahead of Waterford thou

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:14 pm
by Prime Time
Pfloyd. , Howie will surprise everyone this year. I look for the Trimble five to split with Waterford, Just saying.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:18 pm
by Prime Time
Pfloyd. , Howie will surprise everyone this year. I look for the Trimble five to split with Waterford, Just saying.

Re: Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #3

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:21 pm
by Prime Time
OVC. Fair land by a landslide, Portsmouth will be lucky to in top 40-45 by end of year, ironton maybe 500, just a weak league this year. south Point upside if players kept under control. overall a one horse league, with all 500 or sub 500. soc. oak Hill, Waverly, South Webster, Minford, Wheelersburg, Valley