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Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:26 am
by danicalifornia
Updated through 1/29. Only a week before the draw, who does everyone have left on their schedule?

Unioto

1/30 at Washington (14-2)
2/1 vs Adena (12-4)
2/6 at Westfall (10-6)
2/7 vs Miami Trace (9-7)

Washington

1/30 vs Unioto (16-0)
2/2 at Logan Elm (12-4)
2/6 at Miami Trace (9-7)

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:43 pm
by ma77ox
Meigs

1/30 at Athens (8-7)
2/5 vs Alexander (14-4)
2/6 vs Wahama (6-6)

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:31 pm
by Dundas
VC is home tonight vs Miami Trace, home next Tuesday vs NY and finish up pre draw play at Alexander on Wednesday and at River Valley on the 5th.

Every game is important but beating a solid Miami Trace and Alexander at the alley would go a long way in capturing the 1 seed at Logan IMO.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:29 pm
by mhs95_06
Which two of the top 5 will have to win against each other and one of the other 3 to get to the Convo?

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:52 pm
by thebarlowbandit
danicalifornia wrote:VC, Fairfield Union, and Meigs all with better records. Meigs beat them head to head. That's how Warren could drop to the 4 seed.

Meigs is folding up like a cheap suit. They may be the 4-5 seed now. Beating Big Blue in week 1 was an accomplishment, but they are not playing well. Losing to a hot but Lutz'less Athens team is not good.

As I said before, how are some of you guys putting Meigs over Warren?

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:52 am
by danicalifornia
Southeastern

Unioto- 17-0
Washington- 14-3
Circleville- 10-6
Miami Trace- 10-7
Waverly- 8-8
Chillicothe- 10-9
Hillsboro- 6-12
Gallia Academy- 6-11
McClain- 4-13
Jackson- 2-16

Logan

Fairfield Union- 15-2
Meigs- 14-3
Vinton County- 13-3
Warren- 15-3
Logan Elm- 13-4
Sheridan- 10-6
Athens- 9-7
Marietta- 6-10
New Lexington- 1-14

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:06 am
by thebarlowbandit
FU
VC/Warren
LE
Meigs
Sheridan
Athens
Marietta
New Lex

Sleeper here is Marietta, that league is very tough in men's basketball (more so than the other sports).

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:15 pm
by ma77ox
No matter where your seeded in this group it's not an easy route, your going to have to play mistake free ball to advance...I'm not to familiar with FU or LE, but I know with the others, there is no guarantee win over the other.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:29 pm
by 93Bulldog
Im going ...

1. Fairfield Union (best record)
2. Vinton County
3. Meigs (because of win over Warren at Warren)
4. Warren (because coaches will want to match Warren vs LE to knock one out)
5. Logan Elm (see above)
6. Athens (9-3) in their last 12 - including wins over Vinton County & Meigs)
7. Sheridan
8. Marietta
9. New Lex

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:42 pm
by ma77ox
93Bulldog wrote:Im going ...

1. Fairfield Union (best record)
2. Vinton County
3. Meigs (because of win over Warren at Warren)
4. Warren (because coaches will want to match Warren vs LE to knock one out)
5. Logan Elm (see above)
6. Athens (9-3) in their last 12 - including wins over Vinton County & Meigs)
7. Sheridan
8. Marietta
9. New Lex
This would be very interesting...Would put ALL TVC-OHIO Teams in one side of the bracket.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:59 pm
by bman
Fairfield has a tough week @ St. Charles (D1, 15-1) on Tuesday and @ Bloom-Carroll on Thursday. Also @ Teays Valley on Saturday, but most voting may be done by then.

If Fairfield wins the Tuesday and Thursday games, they should be the slam dunk No. 1. I'd still put them No. 1 with a split.

1. Fairfield Union, 2. Vinton County, 3. Warren, 4. Logan Elm, 5. Meigs, 6, Sheridan, 7. Athens, 8. Marietta, 9. New Lex.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:20 pm
by 93Bulldog
Athens has River Valley Tuesday - prolly looking at (10-7) record bman. Why does (10-6) Sheridan deserve to be higher? Who have they beaten?

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:25 pm
by 93Bulldog
Annnnnd how do you have Warren over Meigs????

We agreed a few years ago, that head to head results are the 'end all-be all' when teams have similar records!

:)

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:36 pm
by ma77ox
93Bulldog wrote:Annnnnd how do you have Warren over Meigs????

We agreed a few years ago, that head to head results are the 'end all-be all' when teams have similar records!

:)
Meigs still has Alexander to go before the draw...I'd say he is already figuring in a loss and that would be 2 losses for Meigs to a D3

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:25 pm
by thebarlowbandit
93Bulldog wrote:Annnnnd how do you have Warren over Meigs????

We agreed a few years ago, that head to head results are the 'end all-be all' when teams have similar records!

:)

"We" didn't agree on anything, just wait and watch. Warren has played a better schedule and is playing better basketball now. Which is what is important.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:55 pm
by 93Bulldog
Yep, so did Athens - and so was Athens - but EVERYONE on preps said their "head-to-head" match-up with Logan Elm 10 days removed from playing in a football game is all that mattered.

Its always convenient to make an argument when it favors you. When the slipper is on the other foot - they always want to go back and change it.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:02 pm
by bman
93Bulldog wrote:Annnnnd how do you have Warren over Meigs????

We agreed a few years ago, that head to head results are the 'end all-be all' when teams have similar records!

:)
I'm trying to pull your chain a little bit. ;)

Give lots of credit to Athens' kids for playing hard and upsetting Meigs, but if I'm an opposing coach I view that as a bad loss for Meigs since Athens was without Lutz.

Meigs does own head-to-head, and that is important. It's also important how your team is playing going into the draw. Meigs is 3-3 in its last six games. I also expect Meigs to lose to Alex this week, which I have factored in.

Meigs' non-league schedule, outside of Warren, is not exactly a world beater, either.

As for Athens and Sheridan, 10-6, 10-7, you can flip a coin.

The top five is very interesting this week. If FU wins out or splits, I'd give them the one. If they lose both games, they could fall to the four.

If LE beats Court House on Tuesday (I don't look for it to happen), we could be talking LE for the two spot.

Those are just the MSL teams in the sectional. If I broke down the different scenarios for Warren and the TVC schools, we'd have a small book.

It's going to be a good sectional.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:04 pm
by 93Bulldog
Small book?

Try as big as an encyclopedia ...

lol

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:07 pm
by bman
93Bulldog wrote:Yep, so did Athens - and so was Athens - but EVERYONE on preps said their "head-to-head" match-up with Logan Elm 10 days removed from playing in a football game is all that mattered.

Its always convenient to make an argument when it favors you. When the slipper is on the other foot - they always want to go back and change it.
The better point is why are we still having these discussions? If the district was seeded, top-to-bottom, and people could choose where they wanted to go on the bracket, like most the rest of the state does, these discussions would be moot.

Re: Division 2 Sectional Records

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:17 pm
by 93Bulldog
No doubt!