Re: 2017-18 Season ... Who are the top teams in each league ?
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:42 am
Why is Coach Miller leaving Western? I haven't heard any rumors about Perdue leaving Western; will have to check my sources!
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trojandave wrote:JeepNation: Thanks for the enrollment info. Very interesting to see some schools moving up or down a division.
Here is my look at the Ohio Valley Conference in 2017-2018:
1. Fairland.......the clear favorite to win the title for the 3rd year in a row, and they will be trying to also go undefeated 3 years in a row.
2. Gallia Academy.......most of their top 8 back and a lot of size with 6-11 Loveday and 6-5 Peck
3. Ironton........has 4 starters back including Charlie Large from injury
4. Coal Grove.......all 5 starters back but could be hurt by lack of size
5. South Point......Tayshawn Fox back along with several others; did lose 3 starters
6. Portsmouth......lost top two scorers in Reynolds and Malone; return 3 starters but will be offensively challenged
7. Chesapeake......most of their roster is sophomores but Panthers could be the OVC favorite in 2018-2019
8. Rock Hill.........outstanding junior Mason Darby back but Redmen don't have the supporting cast
That's a very early look at the OVC which means I will be wrong and some surprises will happen........maybe my Trojans will be one......
I also predict at least 1 OVC school will make the regionals, very possible 2. Fairland can still make the regional at D2 but it will be tougher than it was this past season to make the Final 4.
I have heard those rumors.Crab's Brother wrote:trojandave wrote:JeepNation: Thanks for the enrollment info. Very interesting to see some schools moving up or down a division.
Here is my look at the Ohio Valley Conference in 2017-2018:
1. Fairland.......the clear favorite to win the title for the 3rd year in a row, and they will be trying to also go undefeated 3 years in a row.
2. Gallia Academy.......most of their top 8 back and a lot of size with 6-11 Loveday and 6-5 Peck
3. Ironton........has 4 starters back including Charlie Large from injury
4. Coal Grove.......all 5 starters back but could be hurt by lack of size
5. South Point......Tayshawn Fox back along with several others; did lose 3 starters
6. Portsmouth......lost top two scorers in Reynolds and Malone; return 3 starters but will be offensively challenged
7. Chesapeake......most of their roster is sophomores but Panthers could be the OVC favorite in 2018-2019
8. Rock Hill.........outstanding junior Mason Darby back but Redmen don't have the supporting cast
That's a very early look at the OVC which means I will be wrong and some surprises will happen........maybe my Trojans will be one......
I also predict at least 1 OVC school will make the regionals, very possible 2. Fairland can still make the regional at D2 but it will be tougher than it was this past season to make the Final 4.
Hearing that Mason Darby has transferred to Oak Hill. Can anyone confirm? Also hearing Loveday may also be headed to Oak Hill as well.
Street cred, with a HOF coach a lot of times you don't have to say a word, just PARENTS and kids want to come play for the coach. The perception of parents these days is really a misunderstanding of what wins basketball games and how they are won. For example Parent A "I really like how this coach controls tempo, blah blah blah, when in reality it could be an excellent point guard who moved into the district who is just miles beyond anyone in the SE District offensively so no one can stop him from dictating the tempo.JEEPNATION wrote:I too have heard those rumors! I'm sure they weren't recruited or anything like that
It is kind of funny that if Darby goes there, 4 of the 5 starters at Oak Hill are transfers!! hahahah!
What happened to Rock Hill coach?Sportsman wrote:Rumors are all over the place. Darby to South Point / Oak HILL due to the fact RH lost yet another Coach and also may want a supporting cast. Who Knows. Loveday to Huntington Prep? Also hearing Webster and Burg may get a transfer. Guess a lot off schools are recruiting or are Players / Parents just wanting better opportunities. Once again Rumors!!
Fake news!pfloyd wrote:I want to stop ANY AND ALL rumors - Pfloyd has not accepted a position on another basketball forum , I will not be taking my talents or the Elite 8 anywhere but here on SEOPs ... just wanted get that out there , once the "r-word" starts flying things get outta control...
93Bulldog wrote:Fake news!pfloyd wrote:I want to stop ANY AND ALL rumors - Pfloyd has not accepted a position on another basketball forum , I will not be taking my talents or the Elite 8 anywhere but here on SEOPs ... just wanted get that out there , once the "r-word" starts flying things get outta control...
Ive been reading your 'elite 8' of the key west league over the past few days
Long way until next hoop season. AAU for some, football training and track for others. Butcher playing on high powered AAU team. Saltzmen underway with ALL Ohio they are really good and the All Conf Cozart with a good program . Athens should be good. Hines, Cozart, Dink, Saltzmen four starters return. Why wouldn't they be?VisionQuest wrote:Of course I have to disagree with your statement about Athens. Everyone knows Lutz is a rare talent and will be missed. However; with Lutz gone I honestly believe Athens will play more as a Team. When an offense is geared toward 3 players, other younger players simply assume their "roles" and simply don't tend to be aggressive or look to score. I think that will change and it will need to change. But to say they won't be competitive because they Lose Lutz gives no credit to the other players who are up and coming. Without hyping them up too much I believe Ath me will be highly competitive next year, especially with the new head coach going into his 2nd season and being more seasoned as well. Just my thoughts. Athens, Meigs and VC will be the front runners next year.tvc_fan wrote:I honestly believe that Meigs will win the TVC-OHIO this year and make a good tourney run.
I don't think VC will be as good this year without Bartoe or Jones and defenses can focus more on Naylan Yates and Speakman.
Athens loses Lutz, That is huge. Defense will just have to worry about Cozart, and we shut him down last year the 2nd time around.
We lose Musser (12ppg) Kennedy (8ppg) and Mahr (9ppg)
But we return Mattox, Bartrum and Baer and return a great group of bench players and also have a few from JV that will compete for plenty of playing time.
Although it's not a difference in Elite Eight....We could very well be dropping back down to D3.
And several members of Meigs doing the same.sportsgrandpa wrote:Long way until next hoop season. AAU for some, football training and track for others. Butcher playing on high powered AAU team. Saltzmen underway with ALL Ohio they are really good and the All Conf Cozart with a good program . Athens should be good. Hines, Cozart, Dink, Saltzmen four starters return. Why wouldn't they be?VisionQuest wrote:Of course I have to disagree with your statement about Athens. Everyone knows Lutz is a rare talent and will be missed. However; with Lutz gone I honestly believe Athens will play more as a Team. When an offense is geared toward 3 players, other younger players simply assume their "roles" and simply don't tend to be aggressive or look to score. I think that will change and it will need to change. But to say they won't be competitive because they Lose Lutz gives no credit to the other players who are up and coming. Without hyping them up too much I believe Ath me will be highly competitive next year, especially with the new head coach going into his 2nd season and being more seasoned as well. Just my thoughts. Athens, Meigs and VC will be the front runners next year.tvc_fan wrote:I honestly believe that Meigs will win the TVC-OHIO this year and make a good tourney run.
I don't think VC will be as good this year without Bartoe or Jones and defenses can focus more on Naylan Yates and Speakman.
Athens loses Lutz, That is huge. Defense will just have to worry about Cozart, and we shut him down last year the 2nd time around.
We lose Musser (12ppg) Kennedy (8ppg) and Mahr (9ppg)
But we return Mattox, Bartrum and Baer and return a great group of bench players and also have a few from JV that will compete for plenty of playing time.
Although it's not a difference in Elite Eight....We could very well be dropping back down to D3.
Baer and Butcher are on the same high powered AAU teamsportsgrandpa wrote:Long way until next hoop season. AAU for some, football training and track for others. Butcher playing on high powered AAU team. Saltzmen underway with ALL Ohio they are really good and the All Conf Cozart with a good program . Athens should be good. Hines, Cozart, Dink, Saltzmen four starters return. Why wouldn't they be?VisionQuest wrote:Of course I have to disagree with your statement about Athens. Everyone knows Lutz is a rare talent and will be missed. However; with Lutz gone I honestly believe Athens will play more as a Team. When an offense is geared toward 3 players, other younger players simply assume their "roles" and simply don't tend to be aggressive or look to score. I think that will change and it will need to change. But to say they won't be competitive because they Lose Lutz gives no credit to the other players who are up and coming. Without hyping them up too much I believe Ath me will be highly competitive next year, especially with the new head coach going into his 2nd season and being more seasoned as well. Just my thoughts. Athens, Meigs and VC will be the front runners next year.tvc_fan wrote:I honestly believe that Meigs will win the TVC-OHIO this year and make a good tourney run.
I don't think VC will be as good this year without Bartoe or Jones and defenses can focus more on Naylan Yates and Speakman.
Athens loses Lutz, That is huge. Defense will just have to worry about Cozart, and we shut him down last year the 2nd time around.
We lose Musser (12ppg) Kennedy (8ppg) and Mahr (9ppg)
But we return Mattox, Bartrum and Baer and return a great group of bench players and also have a few from JV that will compete for plenty of playing time.
Although it's not a difference in Elite Eight....We could very well be dropping back down to D3.
Yeah I seen some video over the weekend, playing for Adidas.TVC wrote:Baer and Butcher are on the same high powered AAU teamsportsgrandpa wrote:Long way until next hoop season. AAU for some, football training and track for others. Butcher playing on high powered AAU team. Saltzmen underway with ALL Ohio they are really good and the All Conf Cozart with a good program . Athens should be good. Hines, Cozart, Dink, Saltzmen four starters return. Why wouldn't they be?VisionQuest wrote:Of course I have to disagree with your statement about Athens. Everyone knows Lutz is a rare talent and will be missed. However; with Lutz gone I honestly believe Athens will play more as a Team. When an offense is geared toward 3 players, other younger players simply assume their "roles" and simply don't tend to be aggressive or look to score. I think that will change and it will need to change. But to say they won't be competitive because they Lose Lutz gives no credit to the other players who are up and coming. Without hyping them up too much I believe Ath me will be highly competitive next year, especially with the new head coach going into his 2nd season and being more seasoned as well. Just my thoughts. Athens, Meigs and VC will be the front runners next year.
bman wrote:MSL - Fairfield Union is clear cut favorite with players like Colin Woodside, Lucas Thompson and Evan Conley back. Bloom-Carroll suffered some big losses to graduation, but believe they'll be competitive...Logan Elm will frankly be in a rebuilding season, but has some promising classes coming up including next year's freshmen....Teays Valley has wing Ryan Wolfe back, but loses the rest of its starters and has some questions coming into next season...Circleville should have some decent pieces back, but needs to improve a lot on defense and find a point guard...Amanda should continue to improve, but looks to be a middle-of-the-pack team.
FAC...aka Confederate Five plus Jackson - Miami Trace loses a ton of seniors, but still returns guard Cameron Carter and forward Darby Tyree. Expect to be around .500 or maybe a little better. Court House returns Evan Upthegrove, Richard Burns and Dillon Steward. Coach Bartruff does a nice job with those guys. I'd say they should be competitive, .500 or maybe a little better. Chillicothe would be my preseason league favorite, led by Branden Maughmer, but a potential move to D1 will really hurt come tournament time. We have some posters from FAC country who can probably fill in some information.
A wild card from my area could by Circleville New Hope Christian, which is supposed to be going into OHSAA this upcoming season. It'll be interesting to see if they are put in the Central or Southeast in Division IV. New Hope won the OCSAA championship this past season. New Hope will be an independent.