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Posted: **Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:04 pm**

fortdawg wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:01 pm Enigmaxx if you are right then all they are doing is adding a lot of travel.
I would think that has to hurt attendance; at least by the higher seeds.
Parents will be reluctant to let their kids drive an hour and a half or more one way to watch a game and if it's viewed as a play in game they won't be inclined to go themselves.
If a kid is in an accident while making a two hour one way drive...there will be an outcry (rightfully so) to shorten the distances.

Killjoy is here. You'd be surprise how many accidents happen close to home.

This is a move in the right direction by the Southeast District.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:49 am**

bman, no I wouldn't because common sense tells me most accidents will happen where you drive the most.
However, an accident on the way to school or the grocery store will be seen as unlucky.
An accident while driving 3 or 4 total hours will be seen as unnecessary.
I would also hazard to guess that most of the local driving has the teen and one other kid in the car.
A road trip to a sporting event this far away and you will have a car full.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:51 pm**

This is a good move. Being scared to drive is weak. Just don’t go

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:11 pm**

I like this move a lot actually

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 am**

lots of pros to this, BUT.... the one con out weighs all the pros in my opinon. Only having 1 SE D2 team moving on to regionals is bad for the district as a whole.

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:26 am**

football life wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 am lots of pros to this, BUT.... the one con out weighs all the pros in my opinon. Only having 1 SE D2 team moving on to regionals is bad for the district as a whole.

That has nothing to do with this. SE District had two teams move down to D3, which cost us one representative to the D2 regional since we fell to 18 schools. Usually takes 19-20 schools to get two out to regional.

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:27 am**

fortdawg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:49 am bman, no I wouldn't because common sense tells me most accidents will happen where you drive the most.
However, an accident on the way to school or the grocery store will be seen as unlucky.
An accident while driving 3 or 4 total hours will be seen as unnecessary.
I would also hazard to guess that most of the local driving has the teen and one other kid in the car.
A road trip to a sporting event this far away and you will have a car full.

The facts say otherwise.

The NHTSA reports that approximately 52 percent of all accidents occur within a five-mile radius of home and 69 percent of all car accidents occur within a ten-mile radius from home.

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:27 am**

You are arguing with yourself Big Boy.
I agreed that most accidents happen where you drive the most.
I also stand by my assertion that an accident that happens during a kid's normal driving routine will be viewed much differently than one that happened when they are returning from a sporting event that involves a 3 or 4 hour round trip.
Hopefully we will never find out which of us is right.

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:10 pm**

If the two sectional tournament sites are centrally located (changed from where they are now), what it the furthest someone would have to travel? I doubt it will be 3 hours, maybe not even 2.
Take the furthest school east and furthest west, find the center and what is the driving time for both? I know it won’t work out perfectly that way but that gives us an idea.
What you would be good centrally located sites?

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:12 pm**

So if true that the Southeast District is going to Super Sectionals I think it is a good move. Its been mentioned that Neutral Sites will be maintained. Option 1 would probably have the District Board determine the sites based on travel of both schools. The issue with this is that say game 1 you win you may play at one site and the next game may be at the other site based on travel. Scouting could get difficult.
Option 2 would say that Bracket 1 and Bracket 4 would play at site A and Bracket 2 and Bracket 3 would play at site B. This option is one that I see happening.
Also the Southeast District tends to have the sectionals a few days earlier than most around the state. To cut down on the issue of traveling a bit on a school night- the Southeast District could arrange so most of the games are on Friday and Saturdays. Sundays have been used for the Districts in the last few years so maybe have some early round sectionals on Sunday afternoons may be an option.

Posted: **Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:53 pm**

bman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:26 am
football life wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 am lots of pros to this, BUT.... the one con out weighs all the pros in my opinon. Only having 1 SE D2 team moving on to regionals is bad for the district as a whole.
That has nothing to do with this. SE District had two teams move down to D3, which cost us one representative to the D2 regional since we fell to 18 schools. Usually takes 19-20 schools to get two out to regional.

I am completely aware of why we lost a team to the regionals. Its still sucks for the district to loose a rep, which was my point. I am a bit confused on your "that has nothing to do with this" comment?

Posted: **Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:52 am**

football life wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:53 pm
bman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:26 am
football life wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 am lots of pros to this, BUT.... the one con out weighs all the pros in my opinon. Only having 1 SE D2 team moving on to regionals is bad for the district as a whole.
That has nothing to do with this. SE District had two teams move down to D3, which cost us one representative to the D2 regional since we fell to 18 schools. Usually takes 19-20 schools to get two out to regional.
I am completely aware of why we lost a team to the regionals. Its still sucks for the district to loose a rep, which was my point. I am a bit confused on your "that has nothing to do with this" comment?

My bad. Thought you were blaming losing a regional rep on the new format.

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:42 am**

bsee12345 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:12 pm So if true that the Southeast District is going to Super Sectionals I think it is a good move. Its been mentioned that Neutral Sites will be maintained. Option 1 would probably have the District Board determine the sites based on travel of both schools. The issue with this is that say game 1 you win you may play at one site and the next game may be at the other site based on travel. Scouting could get difficult.
Option 2 would say that Bracket 1 and Bracket 4 would play at site A and Bracket 2 and Bracket 3 would play at site B. This option is one that I see happening.
Also the Southeast District tends to have the sectionals a few days earlier than most around the state. To cut down on the issue of traveling a bit on a school night- the Southeast District could arrange so most of the games are on Friday and Saturdays. Sundays have been used for the Districts in the last few years so maybe have some early round sectionals on Sunday afternoons may be an option.

I think the East District (and maybe all the other districts) do it something like this:

There is an Upper Bracket and Lower Bracket. All the sites are laid out before "the draw." To complete the bracket, the highest seed begins by placing themselves on a line. So they have first pick of site or day or whatever is most important to them. Everyone else follows suit in order of seeding. Until you get down to the last couple teams, if location is super important, you probably have a way out (might have to play a better team). Your sectional site would NOT be split because your original line site would take you through the Sectional finals.

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 pm**

The other 2 divisions have at least 8 schools who get to the Convo. Why not let 8 D2 schools play there and have the sectional final round there?

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:53 am**

mhs95_06 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 pm The other 2 divisions have at least 8 schools who get to the Convo. Why not let 8 D2 schools play there and have the sectional final round there?

To specifically answer this question is dates and times. People have to remember that OHIO University has their own events and teams going on. Getting the number of dates we currently do is a challenge and takes a great deal of cooperation on many levels and also puts a great strain on the Universities resources. Also, based on representation, the same level of schools get to play at the Convo in DII as III and IV based on representation.

Because representation is based on statewide numbers between all the Districts. In short, In DII (and DI), we do not have enough teams to warrant two DII District qualifiers this year. This has been the rule over the meats more than the exception in DII.

As for travel, in some Districts like the SE (Nw, NE) you cannot avoid travel. However this thread is an example of the old saying that you can not please everyone, not even some of the time.

Posted: **Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:45 pm**

As far as the driving and accidents go I KNOW there were two accidents, maybe more, while kids were driving to a specific sectional site. I do not know of any fatalities in those cases, but needless to say that site no longer hosts sectional games.

Posted: **Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:19 am**

Athens still got 2 regional teams.

Posted: **Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:59 pm**

EasternDspy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:19 am Athens still got 2 regional teams.

I think somebody said it was just a template earlier in the summer.

If anyone here knows, it is pol pot.

Posted: **Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:31 pm**

Boys Southeast Regional Tournament Reps

Division II: 1
Division III: 2
Division IV: 2

All Regional Reps

Division I: Combined Central and two Southeast schools (Chillicothe and Logan) 4; Combined Northeast and one East school (Dover) 6; Northwest 2, and Southwest 4;
Division II: Central 2; East 2; Northeast 5; Northwest 3; Southeast 1, and Southwest 3
Division III: Central 2; East 1; Northeast 4; Northwest 3; Southeast 2, and Southwest 4
Division IV: Central 2; East 1; Northeast 3; Northwest 5; Southeast 2, and Southwest 3.

Source: OHSAA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING MINUTES -- June 3, 2019

Posted: **Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:37 pm**

So what I have been hearing in D-4, for the East district if my Hawks can make it to the regionals,were headed back to the Canton regionals,I know the boys really like playing at O.U.,the only good thing about it, is the drive to Canton will be alot shorter

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