Reffing

[PopeSnoopDogThe1st]

http://highlandscurrent.com/2017/02/12/ ... p-with-it/

interesting article...

[bbn77]

Good read. Puts a lot in perspective. AD's should post this on Facebook pages and school websites so fans know what they're really doing when they act out like this

[gametime]

http://highlandscurrent.com/2017/02/12/ ... p-with-it/

interesting article...

Also think official's shouldn't take it out on a team for parents say or do

[PopeSnoopDogThe1st]

http://highlandscurrent.com/2017/02/12/ ... p-with-it/

interesting article...

Also think official's shouldn't take it out on a team for parents say or do

I agree with you

[RoadMan]

Truth & fiction, from what I was told, the injury Cole Cottrill suffered was early in the first quarter. If that is the case, I doubt the crew would have had the opportunity to let anything get out of hand or get physical.

RoadMan

[Truth&fiction]

Thanks , The first I heard was "hard" foul . Very unfortunate to say the least. I was making a point that like any sport with contact the more contact allowed is going to be more likely for injuries . Injuries results in loss playing time and could be more costly. Most Officials after rough play is followed with an injury (minor or not) will confer with one another and then they will clean it up . That's good officiating . All officials I would think would do the very best on each call . Over the years I have seen a lot of Officials . Some I know by name others by face only so its not like any are going to say I'm calling this game this way cause I will never see this team again . Call the game as you see it . No more no less .

[mhs95_06]

I witnessed the Marietta vs New Lex game tonight and as a result I have 3 questions regarding rules:

Can slapping the backboard defensively while a shot attempt is pending properly be called goal tending? in tonight's case the slap seemed to jostle the ball off the rim at a time it was probably going to fall through for a deuce. If so, is it something that should be called only if it appears to knock the ball away from the opportunity to go in.

When there is a loose ball can a player sliding/crawling toward the ball be calling for a time out before he reaches the ball, be given the TO immediately when he then grabs the ball? Is there no penalty for calling for a time out when your team does not have the ball? Is the only penalty for calling for a TO when you do when yo have none left?

At least 2 times near the end of the game the trailing team swished a trey and the net flipped up on the rim causing the ref to stop play to get the net straight and allow the trailing team to set up their press. Back in my day loose nets were always getting flipped up stopping play, but today with most nets in use that happening is a rarity. The nets at Logan seem to be very loose and prone to flipping up. Are there no guidelines on nets to prevent that kind of thing to give a team an advantage?

[baseball16]

If a player goes up for a layup and someone comes behind and hits the backboard attempting to block a shot then that is legal as long as the ball is not in the cylinder. Opposing team cannot hit the opposite side of the backboard.

Timeouts cannot be given until possession is made by a team. Many loose balls , the coach or player may call for one but should not be rewarded one until ball is possessed.

Nets are on the school. Only thing the ref can do is blow it dead and fix the net.

Here's another misinterpretation from fans or coaches. A loose ball and player A dives onto the floor and slides with the ball , without turning, about 5 feet. This is a legal play. A player can slide , without turning , as far as they can without going out of bounds.

Also, can fans please stop yelling 3 Seconds when the ball is being shot and there are multiple shots inside the paint. PLEASE!!

I will add my extra 2 cents on reffing. These last 2-3 weeks have been ridiculous dealing with "stupid , idiotic, and crazy" fans. It's time the schools and administrators start stepping in and banning these people from school functions for a period of time. I know ADAMS co. fines their fans which is great, but more AD's need to step in and start disciplining them as well. Maybe this would cut down on some of the nonsense I have witnessed and heard about over the past month.

[Ironman92]

If a player goes up for a layup and someone comes behind and hits the backboard attempting to block a shot then that is legal as long as the ball is not in the cylinder. Opposing team cannot hit the opposite side of the backboard.

Timeouts cannot be given until possession is made by a team. Many loose balls , the coach or player may call for one but should not be rewarded one until ball is possessed.

Nets are on the school. Only thing the ref can do is blow it dead and fix the net.

Here's another misinterpretation from fans or coaches. A loose ball and player A dives onto the floor and slides with the ball , without turning, about 5 feet. This is a legal play. A player can slide , without turning , as far as they can without going out of bounds.

Also, can fans please stop yelling 3 Seconds when the ball is being shot and there are multiple shots inside the paint. PLEASE!!

I will add my extra 2 cents on reffing. These last 2-3 weeks have been ridiculous dealing with "stupid , idiotic, and crazy" fans. It's time the schools and administrators start stepping in and banning these people from school functions for a period of time. I know ADAMS co. fines their fans which is great, but more AD's need to step in and start disciplining them as well. Maybe this would cut down on some of the nonsense I have witnessed and heard about over the past month.

I sorry

[Logangrad]

I witnessed the Marietta vs New Lex game tonight and as a result I have 3 questions regarding rules:

Can slapping the backboard defensively while a shot attempt is pending properly be called goal tending? in tonight's case the slap seemed to jostle the ball off the rim at a time it was probably going to fall through for a deuce. If so, is it something that should be called only if it appears to knock the ball away from the opportunity to go in.

When there is a loose ball can a player sliding/crawling toward the ball be calling for a time out before he reaches the ball, be given the TO immediately when he then grabs the ball? Is there no penalty for calling for a time out when your team does not have the ball? Is the only penalty for calling for a TO when you do when yo have none left?

At least 2 times near the end of the game the trailing team swished a trey and the net flipped up on the rim causing the ref to stop play to get the net straight and allow the trailing team to set up their press. Back in my day loose nets were always getting flipped up stopping play, but today with most nets in use that happening is a rarity. The nets at Logan seem to be very loose and prone to flipping up. Are there no guidelines on nets to prevent that kind of thing to give a team an advantage?

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[Truth&fiction]

Logan has a special laser that is controlled at the scorers table to make the net hang on the rim . This allows the score keeper to keep up with the correct score . It's a rather inexpensive device but takes 10 hours of training so people do not catch on . Know anything about that KD?

[Logangrad]

Logan has a special laser that is controlled at the scorers table to make the net hang on the rim . This allows the score keeper to keep up with the correct score . It's a rather inexpensive device but takes 10 hours of training so people do not catch on . Know anything about that KD?

That's correct

[mrwonderful]

One word best describes the reffing!

HORRENDOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

biggest problems I see are
1. player has position for rebound. Player who doesn't have position when ball is at its highest point pushes positioned player under basket 3 foot and gets the board...total bull crap...the one's who get away with this the most shove the postioned player under basket at time of shot to conceal the foul... they know if they do it while positioned player jumps they'll call over the back....
2. high profile players and Coaches intimidate our refs....They want to be loved and told how good they are by these people...OOPS! I made Norm mad I hope he still talks to me!!!!!! roflmao...Makes me want GAG!!!!!

[Ironman92]

One word best describes the reffing!

HORRENDOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

biggest problems I see are
1. player has position for rebound. Player who doesn't have position when ball is at its highest point pushes positioned player under basket 3 foot and gets the board...total bull crap...the one's who get away with this the most shove the postioned player under basket at time of shot to conceal the foul... they know if they do it while positioned player jumps they'll call over the back....
2. high profile players and Coaches intimidate our refs....They want to be loved and told how good they are by these people...OOPS! I made Norm mad I hope he still talks to me!!!!!! roflmao...Makes me want GAG!!!!!

#1 is big in jr high during free throw attempts ...15 yard penalty in football but didn't see it called 1 time and saw it happen double digit times

[george]

One word best describes the reffing!

HORRENDOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

biggest problems I see are
1. player has position for rebound. Player who doesn't have position when ball is at its highest point pushes positioned player under basket 3 foot and gets the board...total bull crap...the one's who get away with this the most shove the postioned player under basket at time of shot to conceal the foul... they know if they do it while positioned player jumps they'll call over the back....
2. high profile players and Coaches intimidate our refs....They want to be loved and told how good they are by these people...OOPS! I made Norm mad I hope he still talks to me!!!!!! roflmao...Makes me want GAG!!!!!

#1 is big in jr high during free throw attempts ...15 yard penalty in football but didn't see it called 1 time and saw it happen double digit times

There is no call Over the back

[GroveCityBnR]

I witnessed the Marietta vs New Lex game tonight and as a result I have 3 questions regarding rules:

Can slapping the backboard defensively while a shot attempt is pending properly be called goal tending? in tonight's case the slap seemed to jostle the ball off the rim at a time it was probably going to fall through for a deuce. If so, is it something that should be called only if it appears to knock the ball away from the opportunity to go in.

When there is a loose ball can a player sliding/crawling toward the ball be calling for a time out before he reaches the ball, be given the TO immediately when he then grabs the ball? Is there no penalty for calling for a time out when your team does not have the ball? Is the only penalty for calling for a TO when you do when yo have none left?

At least 2 times near the end of the game the trailing team swished a trey and the net flipped up on the rim causing the ref to stop play to get the net straight and allow the trailing team to set up their press. Back in my day loose nets were always getting flipped up stopping play, but today with most nets in use that happening is a rarity. The nets at Logan seem to be very loose and prone to flipping up. Are there no guidelines on nets to prevent that kind of thing to give a team an advantage?

I was at the game last night as well and although I DID NOT officiate the game I was working the table and I am also a Class 1 official. The time out in question was completely legal. The TO was not given until the Marietta player put hands on the ball and as soon as he did the granted the time out. Yes he was sliding but like it was already mentioned it was a legal play. A player can slide as far as his momentum takes him without traveling unless he rolls over or stands up or goes out of bounds. And slapping the backboard is legal unless it causes the ball to leave the cylinder and last night that wasn't even close to happening. As for the net issues, ANY TIME there is a caught net, the officials will stop the game. I don't think It has anything to do with allowing another team to gain an advantage or set up a press. They stopped the game to fix the nets, nothing more.

I'd like to point out that slapping the backboard is legal as long as, in the official's judgement, the player was legitimately trying to block the shot.

[mhs95_06]

A late 5 sec call on Warren when they had the advantage late in the game last night vs Logan Elm was surprising to me. What are the current rules on that? Don't you have 5 seconds on the dribble, then 5 more once you pick it up? At some level of play, haven't they changed the rule that there can be more than 5 sec on the dribble?

[Noitall]

According to wheelersburg pirate fans, they would never lose a game if it wasn't for the refs.

[Crab's Brother]

I really wish some of you complaining would go take the class and give it a shot. It is not an easy thing to do. These people have day jobs and come to gyms and subject themselves to this abuse. Have some respect. They are human beings and mistakes are made. Over the years, I have made friends with many of the guys you see working these games. And I can tell you, they don't give two piles of crap as to who wins these games. They are there because they love it and to supplement their incomes. I complain during the games just like anyone else trying to get a call for my kids, but I know that when we leave the floor those folks did the best they could.

Between the games we played (just over 50) and scouted and watched (20 or so others), I would say that maybe 2 would I consider "poorly officiated". It isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be.

[Truth&fiction]

A late 5 sec call on Warren when they had the advantage late in the game last night vs Logan Elm was surprising to me. What are the current rules on that? Don't you have 5 seconds on the dribble, then 5 more once you pick it up? At some level of play, haven't they changed the rule that there can be more than 5 sec on the dribble?

I was close to the play and had a good angle . Ball handler was picked up by the defensive player near mid court and moved right . The rule follows the college rule . If the defensive player maintains 6ft or less for 5 second its a violation . I do not agree with the rule and some officials will not call it if an attempt is made by ball handler to move forward and defensive player is not preventing movement . One of those judgement calls . In this case the count was picked up and it was actually an easy call by the official. Still I think the rule should have more clarification . Some good point guards will jab in then back out to release the count . Watch a college game and very seldom is it called . The rule should be looked at because I seen a 5 second count start right after ball handler crosses mid court . Be interesting to hear from some seasoned officials and how they call it . Thought it was a well called game and that's what you want .