Who Will The Brown Take In The Draft? And will it matter?

[farmer]

Chris Hubbard pick good pick up. Some talk the Browns were looking at Pats OT Solder. He is starting to show some wear after 8 seasons. Joe Thomas will announce if staying or retiring soon. That would free up more money if he leaves.

[farmer]

Browns also signed Offensive Tackle Donald Stephenson from the Denver Broncos — $2.5 million for one year. Stephenson spent four seasons with Kansas City.
Defensive End Chris Smith from the Cincinnati Bengals — $14 million for three years. Smith spent the 2017 season in Cincy after three years with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Browns are putting some pieces together. If they can come together as a team could be 6 wins or more.

[Geronimo]

It's a new team 500 season not out of the question!

[dazed&confused]

Now adding Carlos Hyde, which might negate taking Barkley with #1 pick. They still need help at DB so thinking Fitzpatrick is back in their target line, unless they now trade a pick. If they go QB at #1, it has to be Darnold, though I'm not sold on him. I'd strongarm the Jets to move up. You can get Allen at 5

[farmer]

I wouldn't discount not taking Barkley as multiple running backs has become popular in the NFL now. Sure makes the offers for #1 or #4 come in for teams wanting to move up. Not easy to predict what the Browns will do which drives teams to overpay to move up.
I like Fitzpatrick who can do so much to help erase mistakes. The rookie QB's they better do their homework on. Allen has his upside but the 2 shoulder surgeries are not good with Browns history.

[cbolt]

Ole Tigerbait might start becoming a Browns fan now lol. He desperately wanted the Bengals to draft Hyde years ago.

[dazed&confused]

Ole Tigerbait might start becoming a Browns fan now lol. He desperately wanted the Bengals to draft Hyde years ago.

[dazed&confused]

One thing is for sure, it will be different on the lake this fall. That old adage about needing a program to know the players really applies now.

[dazed&confused]

It's really on Hue to win now. Not playoffs but the team has to function like an organization with some purpose and identity. He can't use the line that the team has to play a perfect game just to compete. He needs to DEVELOP some talent. If he doesn't, a lot of fans will want to dunk him in the lake.

[d-5]

Thank You Joe Thomas for 11 Hall of Fame seasons

[cbolt]

His durability and loyalty was unmatched ! Those two things are very rare with today's players

[dazed&confused]

The noble warrior. At the same time, how many winning seasons did he have? This shows teams need to draft for high value positions and move personnel as benefits the org. Patriots anyone? I love the loyal guys. I'd rather have Lombardi Trophies.

[farmer]

Just imagine much better he could have been with better players around him. High quality person off the field also. One of the big reasons why the Browns kept him with all the questionable players they brought in over the years. Which now has him in high demand as he has retired.All from a player while in college didn't think much about going to the NFL. Then showed that going fishing with his dad on draft day was more important than showing up at New York for the party.

Shows picking a good left tackle how important it is to a team. Being good with high character is a plus. Browns could have gotten something by trading him but gained more from keeping him. As they had already lost a lot of fans and support for the team. You can't keep all the players for their entire career but they kept the right one.

[dazed&confused]

Understand Farmer. In a vacuum, Browns couldn't do any better than Thomas. But I'd trade that in a flash if we had a good owner/GM/coach trio. As fans, we cant do anything about that but if we were the Patriots, how would we be feeling now? As for Thomas, he follows in footsteps of John Hannah.

[farmer]

That was it couldn't trust the owner and GM as well as others in the front/back office. I would have traded him also. Just sometimes you make an exception. Like the Pats with Brady. The Pats were not always what they are now. Thomas was about the only good thing going to attract other players to come to Cleveland then and even more now. Even if he has retired. Good to see a team stand by him all those years as he wanted to stay in Cleveland. I do think it was the right choice looking back at it. For one big reason those idiots in charge would have screwed it up. With nothing to show for it. Seems the Browns are pointed in the right direction. Hopefully they continue that way and not change direction after the first loss.

[dazed&confused]

I still don't think we have the right coach. New GM needs to have his own choice. But Haslam is still determined to scuttle the chances for the Browns to succeed.

[cbolt]

Agree Jackson needs to go! Some coordinators are just not head coaching material no matter how good they are as coordinators. The Browns have seen a ton of them since they been back! I sure wish Chud would have been given the same chance as Hugh . Dazed got a feeling the new GM kind of likes keeping Jackson around. That way he can build the team and get the players he wants and if they suck again next year it won't be on him and he can hire the coach he wants.

[farmer]

Jackson got the credit for the Bengals offense. Gruden had it going before he got there. He hasn't done much for the Browns and can't forget what he did for the Raiders giving up a lot for Carson Palmer. Maybe he can do better with a GM with a plan instead of collecting picks for later. As well as getting rid of starters in training camp.
I didn't get to watch much of the Browns games since they were not on tv. Kiser did make it on the field for a quarter and half. Goes to the locker room with migraine. The back up QB comes in gets 10 points should have been 17 except for a dropped pass. Browns are in the game. Half way in the 3rd quarter Kiser comes back out and Jackson puts him in for the rest of the game. Never to score again and looked bad. Now I can't say that Haslam didn't say put him in or how much say Haslam had during the season. Kind of seemed Jackson lost control of some of the players last season.

[dazed&confused]

As for Hue, I think hiring Todd Haley is screaming at Hue that you're on the clock.

As for draft and QBs, I can't talk myself out of Josh Allen at 4. Take Barkley at 1 or trade it and go for Allen at 4. PLEASE, DO NOT TAKE MAYFIELD!

[farmer]

Browns announce Taylor as Starting QB no QB competition.
Bringing Hailey in brings in accountability for your actions. He is tough on his players old school. Which rubs some players wrong. Doesn't matter who the player is treats them the same. Jackson wanted to be buddy buddy with some and hard on others. Taylor is a team player making him a good fit. Just with his weapons at WR Hailey will want him to try to throw it up to WR's and let them make a play at times.