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Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:52 pm
by Chieftain2009
They are smashing the Brewers in this series.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:02 pm
by bighead
You set all winter waiting for Reds baseball and this happens ! WOW Reed needs to get rid of them Rockie and Bullwinkle glasses ! LOL Price has got to go.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:18 am
by bighead
No 500 season!

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:27 am
by TVC
Votto.... Is he worth 225 million over 10 seasons? 22.5 per year. $138K per game if he played every game.
Awesome with the bat. Not great at first base. Bonehead base runner.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:25 am
by danicalifornia
TVC wrote:Votto.... Is he worth 225 million over 10 seasons? 22.5 per year. $138K per game if he played every game.
Awesome with the bat. Not great at first base. Bonehead base runner.

Technically, yes he is worth it. It is really hard to say that anyone is truly worth that much money, especially when the team is losing...but, he's doing his part. Mike Trout is worth way more money than whatever he's being paid and the Angels are terrible. Trout's deal is $144.5 over 6 and he's valued at $331 million so far in his career.

Votto's free agent market value is over $30 million per year, so he's worth it. But, like you said, he's okay defensively and not a very good baserunner, add that with the team being bad, I can totally understand it seeming like a bad contract. Which, it could end up being a bad contract in the end, but it hasn't been yet. It's a lot of money committed on the backend of the deal for sure.

I'll even throw this out as someone who has been very hard on Brandon Phillips and his contract, he has also performed above the value of his contract, especially last season.

To be completely technical, it is pretty easy for a player to perform slightly above value (non example, in 2011, Phillips played 4x his contract), but the Reds only have 10 players who have performed over their contract this year. For comparisons sake, the Cubs have 21 players who have outplayed their contracts for the year, according to their FMV.

I'll probably hate myself for this post later, lol.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:27 am
by bighead
If he's worth that much trade him

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:18 pm
by Chieftain2009
bighead wrote:If he's worth that much trade him
Why would you want to trade him?

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:19 pm
by bighead
Not going there ! Just don't believe he is the one to lead the Reds to the big game !JMO

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:22 am
by bighead
"W"

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:44 pm
by danicalifornia
Bailey pitched well again, now has done so in 3 of 4 starts. Has a 3.66 ERA as of now and if you take out his rocky start, he's only allowed 3 ER in 16 2/3 innings.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:57 pm
by bighead
Straily 9-6 ! 5-0 with a 2.68 era over his last 6 starts .

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:05 am
by bighead
" W "

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:17 pm
by bighead
Phillips will bat 300 before season end ?

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:32 pm
by Chieftain2009
Reds are playing out of their minds right now!!! Of course, now that I'm saying this it will come back to bite me.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:37 am
by bighead
Go Reds !

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:09 pm
by danicalifornia
2nd best record in baseball since the AS break and they don't even have major holes to fill to compete more consistently next year. Definitely a starter and bullpen help, along with a RF, but they are pretty solid overall at this point. And all of that help could easily come from their minor league system.

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:28 pm
by bighead
Go Phillips get to .300 ! New Coach and a long cold winter ! Would be worth the wait ! Playoffs next season ?

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:05 pm
by Chieftain2009
Playoffs next year would be a jump, but if they play like this next year it's a possibility!

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:42 pm
by bighead
Bailey 2 1/3 man ! WOW !

Re: 2016 Cincinnati Redlegs

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:41 pm
by bighead
Don't trade Straily !