Soc 1 preseason predictions

[Jason Vorhees]

With the FCA game early on, week 2, they struggled moving the ball at times but still got the win. Just like their win in week 1 against South Gallia. Symmes was very young and had a huge learning curve. I think that they’ll be right there in the mix. It could ultimately come down to the Northwest/Symmes game. You take away Oak Hill from the schedule and add Fairview, KY, Symmes has the potential to win 6-9 games in the regular season. I’ll be very interested in seeing how they fair against Chesapeake this year. Traditionally, Symmes has struggled against Peake.

[Mad-Dogg]

If Green would drop football would their players be able to transfer without penalty. What school would benefit from that ?

If they completely drop the school they should be able to transfer w/o penalty but I don’t know for sure. I couldn’t imagine the ohsaa not letting them but then again we are taking about the ohsaa

[mattash]

Everyone sleeping on Eastern? Not sure what they return but they seem to have built a program

[ItsMyOpinion]

I’m not sure 5-5 against some poor non-conference teams would justify “Having built a program”.

I have been told by multiple people that there are some issues in the football program.

[greygoose]

I’m not sure 5-5 against some poor non-conference teams would justify “Having built a program”.

I have been told by multiple people that there are some issues in the football program.

Yeah I think you're correct when you have a team go 5-5 year in and year out, I wouldn't call that having a built program. Only thing where I have to disagree is that looking at their schedule they playing harder non-league games than league games. Their wins are coming within the league. Yes, they have built it from the ground up but to say we have a program and then to say we have built a program the way it's needed to succeed is 2 different things. Now I'm not sure what you've heard in terms of issues within the program so I have no idea on that part. However, on the first part I can agree with that 100%.

[BigChuck]

Northwest being in this league division may well be the saddest/most embarrassing story in the whole State of Ohio.

[greygoose]

Northwest being in this league division may well be the saddest/most embarrassing story in the whole State of Ohio.

With their numbers coming up and talent they may not lose this league for awhile.

[Watson45]

I’m not sure 5-5 against some poor non-conference teams would justify “Having built a program”.

I have been told by multiple people that there are some issues in the football program.

Yeah I think you're correct when you have a team go 5-5 year in and year out, I wouldn't call that having a built program. Only thing where I have to disagree is that looking at their schedule they playing harder non-league games than league games. Their wins are coming within the league. Yes, they have built it from the ground up but to say we have a program and then to say we have built a program the way it's needed to succeed is 2 different things. Now I'm not sure what you've heard in terms of issues within the program so I have no idea on that part. However, on the first part I can agree with that 100%.

I believe they have put 6 kids in college football over the past few years. They have good support. Not sure but I think they beat northwest the last 3 years. Not to bad for a fairly new program.

[greygoose]

I’m not sure 5-5 against some poor non-conference teams would justify “Having built a program”.

I have been told by multiple people that there are some issues in the football program.

Yeah I think you're correct when you have a team go 5-5 year in and year out, I wouldn't call that having a built program. Only thing where I have to disagree is that looking at their schedule they playing harder non-league games than league games. Their wins are coming within the league. Yes, they have built it from the ground up but to say we have a program and then to say we have built a program the way it's needed to succeed is 2 different things. Now I'm not sure what you've heard in terms of issues within the program so I have no idea on that part. However, on the first part I can agree with that 100%.

I believe they have put 6 kids in college football over the past few years. They have good support. Not sure but I think they beat northwest the last 3 years. Not to bad for a fairly new program.

Wins vs Losses was the discussion and when you're going .500 each year no one is happy, they just need to take that next step. They have a young team this year look for them to make some noise next year but probably another .500 on the horizon for 2019. Beating a down Northwest team doesn't tell me anything, rest of the league has beaten northwest over the last 3 years. I was more curious as to what the gentlemen was saying in terms of issues within the program.

[greygoose]

Has Western hired a coach? Last I heard their head coach left for Northwest.

Not sure who they've got at coach now, gone through a couple this year. Also rumblings that they had to cancel junior high season because of lack of players and ND has canceled as well.

[ItsMyOpinion]

If I’m right 5 of the 6 football players mentioned above attended NCAA D-III football programs where players just attend school and they are on the team. I think the one exception is the kid that went to junior college. He may be at a scholarship program now but I don’t know. Of course this is second hand information so not sure if he is at a 4 year football program now.

As far as “issues in the program”, this is not the place to discussion. Again second-hand information but comes from people in the know.

[NW97]

Northwest being in this league division may well be the saddest/most embarrassing story in the whole State of Ohio.

And just why is that?

[SouthernSports]

Northwest being in this league division may well be the saddest/most embarrassing story in the whole State of Ohio.

And just why is that?

Because NW is the biggest school in the county, 60 kids on the football team, Division 5 and yet they insist on being in a league with schools that don’t even have 60 boys in the school. Playing Division 6 and 7 schools. That’s why it’s sad and embarrassing! Accept it. If they win the SOC 1 what are they proving? Most SOC 1 schools have about 20 kids on the team.

[NW97]

Northwest being in this league division may well be the saddest/most embarrassing story in the whole State of Ohio.

And just why is that?

Because NW is the biggest school in the county, 60 kids on the football team, Division 5 and yet they insist on being in a league with schools that don’t even have 60 boys in the school. Playing Division 6 and 7 schools. That’s why it’s sad and embarrassing! Accept it. If they win the SOC 1 what are they proving? Most SOC 1 schools have about 20 kids on the team.

Having 60 kids on the roster isn't the norm, I think they had somewhere around 20 last year. And they lose good players from the district to Valley and West. To be honest I'm not sure how it works, but if it's so preposterous then who allowed them to be in SOC1?

[greygoose]

And just why is that?

Because NW is the biggest school in the county, 60 kids on the football team, Division 5 and yet they insist on being in a league with schools that don’t even have 60 boys in the school. Playing Division 6 and 7 schools. That’s why it’s sad and embarrassing! Accept it. If they win the SOC 1 what are they proving? Most SOC 1 schools have about 20 kids on the team.

Having 60 kids on the roster isn't the norm, I think they had somewhere around 20 last year. And they lose good players from the district to Valley and West. To be honest I'm not sure how it works, but if it's so preposterous then who allowed them to be in SOC1?

Not sure where you're getting your numbers but Northwest was NO WHERE near 20 kids on the team last year. They have 44 freshman and sophmores so let's cut that number in half and just say they had 20 freshmen last year alone. They were around probably upper 30s to lower 40s at the minimum last year.

[greygoose]

If I’m right 5 of the 6 football players mentioned above attended NCAA D-III football programs where players just attend school and they are on the team. I think the one exception is the kid that went to junior college. He may be at a scholarship program now but I don’t know. Of course this is second hand information so not sure if he is at a 4 year football program now.

As far as “issues in the program”, this is not the place to discussion. Again second-hand information but comes from people in the know.

You are referring to their big lineman from couple years back, I've heard he landed himself a scholarship at UMASS this year.

[greygoose]

If I’m right 5 of the 6 football players mentioned above attended NCAA D-III football programs where players just attend school and they are on the team. I think the one exception is the kid that went to junior college. He may be at a scholarship program now but I don’t know. Of course this is second hand information so not sure if he is at a 4 year football program now.

As far as “issues in the program”, this is not the place to discussion. Again second-hand information but comes from people in the know.

Then probably something that should be mentioned at all, considering it's information passed down from ear to ear and probably zero truth to it especially if it can't even be mentioned. Sounds of an individual just wanting to stir the pot.

[SouthernSports]

And just why is that?

Because NW is the biggest school in the county, 60 kids on the football team, Division 5 and yet they insist on being in a league with schools that don’t even have 60 boys in the school. Playing Division 6 and 7 schools. That’s why it’s sad and embarrassing! Accept it. If they win the SOC 1 what are they proving? Most SOC 1 schools have about 20 kids on the team.

Having 60 kids on the roster isn't the norm, I think they had somewhere around 20 last year. And they lose good players from the district to Valley and West. To be honest I'm not sure how it works, but if it's so preposterous then who allowed them to be in SOC1?

They asked to go into the SOC 1 for a couple of years to rebuild and Valley wanted to move up. They’ve just never really improved. Whether it’s loosing players to other schools or any of the many other reasons, they still need to be in the SOC 2. Divisions are based on the number of boys in the school and leagues should be on the same basis. It’s just not fair to the smaller schools.

[Proud_Pirate63]

Because NW is the biggest school in the county, 60 kids on the football team, Division 5 and yet they insist on being in a league with schools that don’t even have 60 boys in the school. Playing Division 6 and 7 schools. That’s why it’s sad and embarrassing! Accept it. If they win the SOC 1 what are they proving? Most SOC 1 schools have about 20 kids on the team.

Having 60 kids on the roster isn't the norm, I think they had somewhere around 20 last year. And they lose good players from the district to Valley and West. To be honest I'm not sure how it works, but if it's so preposterous then who allowed them to be in SOC1?

They asked to go into the SOC 1 for a couple of years to rebuild and Valley wanted to move up. They’ve just never really improved. Whether it’s loosing players to other schools or any of the many other reasons, they still need to be in the SOC 2. Divisions are based on the number of boys in the school and leagues should be on the same basis. It’s just not fair to the smaller schools.

Why isn’t it fair to other SOC 1 schools? It doesn’t matter if Northwest has 100 kids on the roster. Go to Joeeietel.com and lookup Northwest’s yearly record and scores against SOC 1 opponents. They lost A LOT more games than they won. The website goes all the way back to the 2000 season. If Northwest starts winning SOC 1 championships on a yearly basis, then maybe start talking about them moving back up to SOC 2.

[ItsMyOpinion]

Sorry Goose,

I have no dog in that fight and never have. To be honest I’m more of a SVC guys than the SOC or any other league.

It sounds like maybe you have a dog in that fight and you are trying to defuse the situation! Lol!