D6 Region 23

[EasternDspy]

With Trimble returning almost everybody I think its easy to say they are the favorite to win the region. Also I think it would be foolish to say that region 23 isn’t much tougher then region 27. Fort Frye will be good. In our neck of the woods, NY should be much much improved while returning a whole bunch also. I also think something to be considered and I could be very wrong on this but with Trimble now being in 6, it will hurt them points wise in the long run regardless of record. I look at East Knox in region 23 for example that gets hurt playing Division 7 schools. In reality though a lot will change from now till week 11, for every team in the area so it’s hard to tell what the heck is going to happen. Excited to see Trimble, Fort and NY all in one region should be fun.

Fort Frye has a series with Nelsonville starting this season and series with Trimble starting next year.

I am excited for that series to start. Like I said NY will be much better but I think Fort Frye and Trimble both have the upper hand right now but it’s only June. Is that Trimble series a two year series as well?

Fort will have most of the defense back and a ton back on offense. They have a ton of young freshman and sophomores that will be really good. Fort is getting so many kids in the weight room. They have a sophomore first year starting QB that I think will be really good but he will have some growing pains I’m sure. I expect him to become a standout sooner rather then later.

[enigmaax]

With Trimble returning almost everybody I think its easy to say they are the favorite to win the region. Also I think it would be foolish to say that region 23 isn’t much tougher then region 27. Fort Frye will be good. In our neck of the woods, NY should be much much improved while returning a whole bunch also. I also think something to be considered and I could be very wrong on this but with Trimble now being in 6, it will hurt them points wise in the long run regardless of record. I look at East Knox in region 23 for example that gets hurt playing Division 7 schools. In reality though a lot will change from now till week 11, for every team in the area so it’s hard to tell what the heck is going to happen. Excited to see Trimble, Fort and NY all in one region should be fun.

East Knox missed playoffs in large part because their out-of-conference opponents went 3-27.

Still, as the original poster said, in the long run points could be an issue. Trimble would not have made the playoffs in Region 21/23 two out of the last four years, although they were never worse than #5 in Region 25/27.

2018 - #3 in R27 would've been #6 in R23 (Record: 9-1); Only top 4 in R27 would've made it in R23
2017 - #5 in R27; would've been OUT in R23 (8-2); Top 4 in R27 would've made it in R23
2016 - #4 in R27; would've been #8 in R23 (8-2); Top 4 in R27 would've made it in R23
2015 - #3 in R25; would'be been OUT in R21 (8-2); Top 2 in R25 would've made it in R21

It's been consistent since the two additional regions were added that the Top 4 R27 ratings equate to a Top 8 in R23. If Trimble goes 10-0, they have nothing to worry about. But 1 loss can be the difference between hosting and going on the road and 2 losses would not be an automatic berth like it would be in R27.

Good and bad? They will probably roll through the TVC for a few years; that is 7-8 almost guaranteed wins, but those are pretty much all D7 points and that is the problem. If they happen to lose to the two non-conference opponents (or three, once Wahama is gone), it could be tough to make it. The game with Fort Frye in two years will be huge for Trimble because a win, coupled with their normal success would probably seal the deal for them. The movement of other schools could impact this, but there has definitely (unsurprisingly) been a difference in the point scale between the regions.

Side note - for any of the oldies here. The Fort Frye-Trimble game reminds me of the early 80s when Caldwell and Belpre were both top notch local programs and they opened against each other for a few years in a row. Of course, it was much more difficult to make the playoffs back then with only 2 teams per region. In 84, Belpre made the playoffs and Caldwell finished #4 (smaller division). In 85, Caldwell made the playoffs and Belpre was #9 in the same region.

[93Bulldog]

Enigmaxx

The No. 6, 7 & 8 seeds (from 2017) are no longer in D6, so in theory, Trimble would have most likely been in. You have to take into consideration what teams will actually be in 23 this year.

[enigmaax]

Enigmaxx

The No. 6, 7 & 8 seeds (from 2017) are no longer in D6, so in theory, Trimble would have most likely been in. You have to take into consideration what teams will actually be in 23 this year.

Agree, thats why I said movement of other teams could have an impact. That could go both ways though. On the surface, it is a disadvantage to play almost entirely D7 schools when trying to match points with D6 teams who might not.

Another thing, the Hocking is set up with guaranteed points due to the number of teams. That is a good thing when they’re all D7. It becomes less important when the top school is “bigger” than all the others and once Wahama leaves, just that one less team creates a new variable that can greatly affect point potential. For example, if everyone loses that extra non-league game, it could cost Trimble over a whole point on their average.

[93Bulldog]

Agreed!

But not playing Wahama opens the door for Trimble to schedule a team like Meigs perhaps. A bigger school with more potential playoff points than Wahama. But yes, as a whole, the 9 team league was a playoff point machine for the Hocking (in D7)

[NY BUCK]

Enigmaxx

The No. 6, 7 & 8 seeds (from 2017) are no longer in D6, so in theory, Trimble would have most likely been in. You have to take into consideration what teams will actually be in 23 this year.

Agree, thats why I said movement of other teams could have an impact. That could go both ways though. On the surface, it is a disadvantage to play almost entirely D7 schools when trying to match points with D6 teams who might not.

Another thing, the Hocking is set up with guaranteed points due to the number of teams. That is a good thing when they’re all D7. It becomes less important when the top school is “bigger” than all the others and once Wahama leaves, just that one less team creates a new variable that can greatly affect point potential. For example, if everyone loses that extra non-league game, it could cost Trimble over a whole point on their average.

This is what I was trying to say in my original post. With Trimble now being in 6, if the Hocking has a down year it will hurt them more then it has in the past. They will also get less points win they beat NY, Belpre & Federal Hocking. Beefing up that week 5 spot and then feeling wahama with a bigger school or a good same size school will help tremendously.

[Happy McGavin]

Ole orange and brown isn't convinced Trimble is loaded. I got a 20 spot that says we beat Nelsonville by at least 3 tds. Probably more

[Shotgun red]

Ole orange and brown isn't convinced Trimble is loaded. I got a 20 spot that says we beat Nelsonville by at least 3 tds. Probably more

Do you realize that NY has probably the best high school coach in the country? I would think that the tomkittens would just be excited to be on the same playing surface with NY. I just hope ole Phil can keep it close.

[Crab's Brother]

Enigmaxx

The No. 6, 7 & 8 seeds (from 2017) are no longer in D6, so in theory, Trimble would have most likely been in. You have to take into consideration what teams will actually be in 23 this year.

Agree, thats why I said movement of other teams could have an impact. That could go both ways though. On the surface, it is a disadvantage to play almost entirely D7 schools when trying to match points with D6 teams who might not.

Another thing, the Hocking is set up with guaranteed points due to the number of teams. That is a good thing when they’re all D7. It becomes less important when the top school is “bigger” than all the others and once Wahama leaves, just that one less team creates a new variable that can greatly affect point potential. For example, if everyone loses that extra non-league game, it could cost Trimble over a whole point on their average.

This is what I was trying to say in my original post. With Trimble now being in 6, if the Hocking has a down year it will hurt them more then it has in the past. They will also get less points win they beat NY, Belpre & Federal Hocking. Beefing up that week 5 spot and then feeling wahama with a bigger school or a good same size school will help tremendously.

That isn't true. They will still get the same amount for winning those games.

[NY BUCK]

Agree, thats why I said movement of other teams could have an impact. That could go both ways though. On the surface, it is a disadvantage to play almost entirely D7 schools when trying to match points with D6 teams who might not.

Another thing, the Hocking is set up with guaranteed points due to the number of teams. That is a good thing when they’re all D7. It becomes less important when the top school is “bigger” than all the others and once Wahama leaves, just that one less team creates a new variable that can greatly affect point potential. For example, if everyone loses that extra non-league game, it could cost Trimble over a whole point on their average.

This is what I was trying to say in my original post. With Trimble now being in 6, if the Hocking has a down year it will hurt them more then it has in the past. They will also get less points win they beat NY, Belpre & Federal Hocking. Beefing up that week 5 spot and then feeling wahama with a bigger school or a good same size school will help tremendously.

That isn't true. They will still get the same amount for winning those games.

Yes you are correct.. not sure what I was thinking. Had it flipped. NY would get more points for beating them.

[icanpickem]

You have some editing to do. Lol

[Copay]

I think Region 23 puts a team in the state finals...Coldwater

Better change this thread to 21

[EasternDspy]

Looking like they moved stuff around.