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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by P(irate) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:26 pm

nice guy wrote:The Portsmouth-Waverly game will be key game also.
Both Ironton and Rock Hill can pick up points with a PHS win.
Waverly will win that game.


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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by Tjhtygeverve » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:31 pm

Waverly should win. Portsmouth has some crazy runs where they show promise. Very young squad the Trojans have.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by herbie1 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:42 pm

Tjhtygeverve wrote:Waverly should win. Portsmouth has some crazy runs where they show promise. Very young squad the Trojans have.
this game will more than likely not even matter!!!

Coshocton L2 games are

west holmes 1-8 vs clear creek 2-7
bishop Rosecrans 2-7 vs cotton valley 1-8
new Lexington 3-6 vs sherdian 6-3
Claymont 1-8 vs Maysville 7-2

have 1 game where they auto get l2 points but ironton has 2 games where they auto get l2 points

my guess says Coshocton needs atleast 3 and maybe all 4 of those games to be wins(not happening)

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by RVRaiderFan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:47 pm

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by nice guy » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:10 pm

Probably won't matter.
West Holmes plays Bellville Clear Fork.

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Post by noreply66 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:45 pm

I can see River Valley getting past Shadyside.
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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:12 pm

I have done some math on this Coshocton vs ironton thing and here is my conclusion!!

Coshocton has 4 L2 games that matter they must WIN 2 of them to take over ironton ,however if Portsmouth beats waverly it ups the Coshocton stakes to winning 3 of there L2 games that matter!! and here are the 4 games that matter

west holmes 1-8 vs clear creek 2-7
bishop Rosecrans 2-7 vs cotton valley 1-8
new Lexington 3-6 vs sherdian 6-3
Claymont 1-8 vs Maysville 7-2

based on records I don't see how new Lexington or Claymont win
anyone with knowledge of these 4 teams help us out here with what they should do ???

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by wobycat » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:26 pm

Portsmouth has shut down. Doubt they beat waverly. No idea how those teams are.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:28 pm

wobycat wrote:Portsmouth has shut down. Doubt they beat waverly. No idea how those teams are.
might just come down to that Saturday game bishop Rosecrans vs conotton valley

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by seasick80 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:41 am

If svac83 is correct, look at some of those driving times!!! Bidwell R.V. to West Lafayette!! Cadiz H.C. to Chillicothe ZT.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by Mad-Dogg » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:06 pm

Raider6309 wrote:Wheelersburg's nightmare is probably going to happen. A rematch with the second best team in the region week 11
I highly doubt that it's burgs nightmare for a rematch with ironton. IMO the game would be worse this time around
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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by OVCfan23 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:10 pm

These ain't the Lutz Era tigers, no one is scared of them.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by hammer89 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:32 pm

Coshocton's level 2's

West Holmes/Clear Fork - Could go either way. Neither team is very good.
Rosecrans/Conotton Valley - Rosecrans should win easily. CV is one of the worst teams in the state. (Saturday game)
Sheridan should beat New Lex easily
Maysville/Claymont - Maysville will win with a running clock. Claymont is bad.

If Waverly beats Portsmouth then my math tells me that it will come down to the West Holmes/Clear Fork game. A West Holmes win gets Coshocton the #8 seed, a Clear Fork win gets Ironton in. But it is also very possible that RV gets beat by Shadyside. Like another poster said, their record is very deceiving. They are a very well coached team and seem to have improved a lot over the season. They also play very well at home. If that happens it will be a logjam for the last few spots. I also don't see any realistic way Harrison Central gets knocked out of the #5 spot. This will be much better for travel times since Cadiz and West Lafayette are only about an hour apart.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:36 pm

wheelersburg could lay down in week 10 and get back to back weeks VS PORTS WEST no 1 has tossed this theory out LOL

someone would have check see if they still be ahead of zane trace

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by wrestlefan » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:43 pm

ill bet alex jumps zt this week
they will face each other week 12 so it doesnt matter

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Post by P(irate) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:44 pm

cg-ironton fan wrote:wheelersburg could lay down in week 10 and get back to back weeks VS PORTS WEST no 1 has tossed this theory out LOL

someone would have check see if they still be ahead of zane trace
I know why they haven't thrown that out yet. Because it's just plain stupid. This class of seniors have never went undefeated in HS. So it won't happen. BTW, IHS basketball set to start practice Mon. Nov. 9th.
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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by traf1 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:16 pm

wrestlefan wrote:ill bet alex jumps zt this week
they will face each other week 12 so it doesnt matter


Maybe in Jackson?

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by wrestlefan » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:22 pm

probably

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by nice guy » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:56 pm

I think Zane Trace hangs on to #2. It will be close though.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by wrestlefan » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:11 pm

dunkle and brower will be back this week for zt
they were both blatantly taken out by PV a few weeks ago

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by Orange and Brown » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:48 pm

It's great to see Alex and RV make the playoffs!
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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by EasternDspy » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:26 pm

RV might lose to Shadyside they are fighting for a playoff spot as well

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by Tjhtygeverve » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:28 am

That would be an upset. Shady over River?!!!

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by svac83 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:40 am

if waverly beats portsmouth unless coshocton gets 3 of those games river valley should be in. coshocton could very easily get by ironton though with a west holmes win.

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Post by RVRaiderFan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:15 am

My understand is that RV is 100% in, of course, with a win over Shadyside. It is also my understanding that they are basically in even if they lose, but several things could happen to knock them out. Key here.....BEAT Shadyside and you are definitely in!

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Post by Orange and Brown » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:49 am

RVRaiderFan wrote:My understand is that RV is 100% in, of course, with a win over Shadyside. It is also my understanding that they are basically in even if they lose, but several things could happen to knock them out. Key here.....BEAT Shadyside and you are definitely in!

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by 4thgoal » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:56 am

cg-ironton fan wrote:wheelersburg could lay down in week 10 and get back to back weeks VS PORTS WEST no 1 has tossed this theory out LOL

someone would have check see if they still be ahead of zane trace
Wheelersburg does not want to share the SOC title with Valley, so they still have something to play for.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:31 pm

4thgoal wrote:
cg-ironton fan wrote:wheelersburg could lay down in week 10 and get back to back weeks VS PORTS WEST no 1 has tossed this theory out LOL

someone would have check see if they still be ahead of zane trace
Wheelersburg does not want to share the SOC title with Valley, so they still have something to play for.
your probably right, however it would be awful to get any starter hurt in a pointless game and by giving game to west they eliminate ironton and get to play west again the following week !!! LOL

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by 4thgoal » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:44 pm

Burg vs. West has always been a rivalry, even in years when the records weren't close. A little trivia for you....West has more wins aginst Wheelersburg than any other opponent. Also, Drew Pasteur has West with only a 10% chance of the playoffs with a win this week.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:02 pm

4thgoal wrote:Burg vs. West has always been a rivalry, even in years when the records weren't close. A little trivia for you....West has more wins aginst Wheelersburg than any other opponent. Also, Drew Pasteur has West with only a 10% chance of the playoffs with a win this week.
drew must be on some good juice and bad math LOL!! if west wins they will be number 8 if cg and waverly win!!! and Coshocton cant win 3 of there L2 games!!!

and yes west would edge ironton out if this happens like this

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by BlueDuck » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:24 pm

cg-ironton fan wrote:
4thgoal wrote:Burg vs. West has always been a rivalry, even in years when the records weren't close. A little trivia for you....West has more wins aginst Wheelersburg than any other opponent. Also, Drew Pasteur has West with only a 10% chance of the playoffs with a win this week.
drew must be on some good juice and bad math LOL!! if west wins they will be number 8 if cg and waverly win!!! and Coshocton cant win 3 of there L2 games!!!

and yes west would edge ironton out if this happens like this
You're right. Drew does have some bad math. I am calculating West has far less than a 2% chance to win this Friday.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by theburgtheword » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:42 pm

Burg and West is always a wild game.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:01 pm

BlueDuck wrote:
cg-ironton fan wrote:
4thgoal wrote:Burg vs. West has always been a rivalry, even in years when the records weren't close. A little trivia for you....West has more wins aginst Wheelersburg than any other opponent. Also, Drew Pasteur has West with only a 10% chance of the playoffs with a win this week.
drew must be on some good juice and bad math LOL!! if west wins they will be number 8 if cg and waverly win!!! and Coshocton cant win 3 of there L2 games!!!

and yes west would edge ironton out if this happens like this
You're right. Drew does have some bad math. I am calculating West has far less than a 2% chance to win this Friday.
I think 4th and goal said west has less than 10% even if they win, however if you do the math should west pull of the upset they would be 90% chance of landing on #8

check it out for yourself the numbers don't lie!!!

and burg is very well coached , I give them that, this will be interesting to see how this situation is handled LOL

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by svac83 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:39 pm

okay i originally started my spread sheet in week 6. i went back and checked today and have a couple of minor math errors and while doing that have broken down almost every possible scenario.
1. wheelersburg 26.16 this is with a win. and ironton, jackson, oak hill and valley winning. if they lost this game and every possible second level point with the exception of jackson they would be at 23.03 and still number 1
2. zane trace i have them with a conservative total of. 22.25 this is with a win over westfall and a paint valley win over piketon. if waverly beats portsmouth they would be setting at 22.7 points and that is a very interesting number. they have an additional 12.5 second level points they could pick up but they are less then 50% chance.
3. alexander if they beat meigs and if harvest prep beats fairfield christian they would be at 22.6 points. if wellston would beat vinton county they would be at 22.7 points and tied with zane trace. i have no idea how tie breakers go. if river valley beats shadyside and i would think that is at least a 60% chance then they would be at 23.05 and would be 2nd unless zane trace pulled out some unlikely points. they could make it to 23.15 if nelsonville york would upset athens.
if alexander loses and harvest prep beats fairfield christian. alexander is at 19.2 and clearly third in region.
4. ridgewood 16.9 with a win over newcomerstown. they only have 11 other l2 points they could achieve and that is not enough to catch alexander. if they lose at 15.45 still in.
5. river valley 15.06 with a win over shadyside and rock hill win over fairland. and they get to 15.16 if wellston beats vinton county. they could earn additional points from nelsonville york, eastern, or gallia academy none of which are likely. a river valley loss to shadyside and a rock hill win would leave them at. 13.60 and that would be more then likely good enough to get in and they would be at 13.70 if wellston beats vinton county.
6. harrison central i have at 14.72 that is with a win over buckeye local and a weir wv. win over east liverpool. they would need a claymont 1-8 win over marysville 7-2 or a union local 4-5 over barnesville 6-3 or a edison 1-8 win over 6-3 indian creek or a oak glen wv 3.5 over a beaver oh 4-5. one of these teams winning would give them a total of 15.14 to 15.24. a barnesville win would leave them behind river valley if wellston wins. a bellaire win would give them another .05 in there final average. so 5 and 6 could be very close.
7. rock hill 13.7222 this is with a win over fairland and a oak hill win over green. they could pick up
0.3888 final points with a northwest win over symmes valley. 0.4444 points with a chesapeake win over coal grove .5555 points with a portsmouth win over waverly. so if weir west virginia would lose or if 2 or more of these teams would win they could catch harrison central. if they would lose this game and oak hill would win they would still be at 13.22. this would also move river valleys average down to 13.20 if they would of lost to shadyside.
8. ironton 13.25 with a win over south point they can get to 13.75 if portsmouth would beat waverly.
so they could catch rock hill and with a river valley loss and a portsmouth win squeeze by river valley if everything fell right.
9. coshocton. 12.94 with a win over riverview and a 2.7 bishop rosecrans team beating a 1-8 cotton valley team. then they would need one of the following to happen to catch ironton at 13.25. 1-8 west holmes to beat a 2-7 clearfork or 3-6 new lexington to beat 6-3 sheridan. a 1-8 claymont to beat a 7-2 marysville. they would need 2 of these games to come through if portsmouth were to beat waverly would also need 2 of them to catch a river valley that had lost to shdyside and 2 catch rock hill unless they lost.
10.oak hill highest possible total 12.65 cannot imagine a scenario this is good enough in
11. portsmouth west. highest possible total 14.017. first thing they have to beat wheelersburg, then need coal gorve, minford waverly and fairland to win. if fairland doesn't beat rock hill the highest they can get is 13.56. so the only team they could realalistically catch would be ironton. but what is chances of coal grove minford and waverly all 3 winning on a night portsmouth west also upset wheelersburg.

so that is the down low on this region.

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Re: Division V, Region 17

Post by cg-ironton fan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:59 pm

I think west only needs 3 of those L2 games to come through, I originally thought 2 but your right all that is to much to ask for LOL

burg will not lay down against pwest anyways LOL , I wouldn't be shocked though if they don't yank the starters quickers though!!

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