Serious Burg vs Ironton question

[ironman02]

Burg has been and will continue to be in the running for a State Final. Next year Burg has dropped Fairland and pick up Bishop Hartley , so continue with Ironton , Hartley , Heath, Watterson and Jackson , I say this is a great Non Conference schedule to better prepare them for Playoffs....

I didn't know that Burg had added Hartley for next year. Excellent choice!

Having Hartley and Watterson on the schedule, plus Jackson is a great non-conference slate, in my opinion. I maintain that Ironton will get better at some point, and Heath is also a good game. Heath has been a little up and down lately, but traditionally, they have a solid program.

[JTEK]

I love how Burg wins a few games by a lot and you fans start saying end the series it's not competitive anymore. Ironton won like 16 in a row over you guys and not once did people say let's end the series it's not competitive.

Ironton never came close to winning 16 in a row. This might be the longest streak by either team. The difference is just about all the games used to be very competitive.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Our Pirates have to play our conference schedule, it's just the way it is. But, we do have and need to use flexibility in our non conference schedule. We have an opportunity to play at a higher level and we really need games with programs to help us achieve that level. We need to make some changes soon rather than later as our window of opportunity to have higher relevancy is upon us now. The Ironton game (a non-conference game) no longer helps us achieve that level. And honestly I don't see Ironton coming back to past prevalence, I actually see the other schools in the OVC closing the gap on them.

Even if we schedule a team that we take a loss to, it helps the kids see the level of play they need to be seeing in order to get to the Championship game at State and truly competing to win it, we need to build some more hunger in our kids, let them deal with stress in the regular season to be better able to deal the stress in the post season....JMO

I totally understand chuck. and that's exactly how ironton football was built as well. I just hope the series continues. but yes ironton has been caught by the other county schools now.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

I love how Burg wins a few games by a lot and you fans start saying end the series it's not competitive anymore. Ironton won like 16 in a row over you guys and not once did people say let's end the series it's not competitive.

I agree here as well. but if ironton cannot field a competitive team that can regularly compete with teams like burg I see their point as well. ironton made themselves a football giant by playing any and everybody. but things have just changed. I don't want to see the series end. but every burg poster you talk to wants that. so I'm assuming that is the heartbeat of their program's and communities thinking.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Burg has been and will continue to be in the running for a State Final. Next year Burg has dropped Fairland and pick up Bishop Hartley , so continue with Ironton , Hartley , Heath, Watterson and Jackson , I say this is a great Non Conference schedule to better prepare them for Playoffs....

I didn't know that Burg had added Hartley for next year. Excellent choice!

Having Hartley and Watterson on the schedule, plus Jackson is a great non-conference slate, in my opinion. I maintain that Ironton will get better at some point, and Heath is also a good game. Heath has been a little up and down lately, but traditionally, they have a solid program.

I could not agree more, just jealous it hain't still the tigers that are doing it.

[bigdogtaz]

Ironton's words have come back home to rest, for years they made fun of the OVC stating that you could never build a playoff caliber team in the OVC its always too weak, that you would always be one and done if you did make playoff's, That to be the best you had to build the best. Now they boast of winning a trophy they once laughed at and belittled. The Burg was the better team, they have a program that not only players and coaches buy into but also the community and supporters. should be very evident by watching last years starting QB loose his position and stay with the team and contribute in a different position, most kids and parents would have transferred out or set out the season, have to admire that young man, The Bob Lutz era and draw to the tank are over and unless the community gets behind the program and encourages that to build tiger fans are going to have to settle for what they have. Who do they think they can hire that will have the draw and ability to bring them back to a powerhouse in a few season's? Support your team, encourage more boys to play, and hope for the best when season is over then unleash your anger and demand a different coach, I'm no fan of Ironton but those player's deserve that at the very least. just my opinion

[Abe Froman]

Ironton's words have come back home to rest, for years they made fun of the OVC stating that you could never build a playoff caliber team in the OVC its always too weak, that you would always be one and done if you did make playoff's, That to be the best you had to build the best. Now they boast of winning a trophy they once laughed at and belittled. The Burg was the better team, they have a program that not only players and coaches buy into but also the community and supporters. should be very evident by watching last years starting QB loose his position and stay with the team and contribute in a different position, most kids and parents would have transferred out or set out the season, have to admire that young man, The Bob Lutz era and draw to the tank are over and unless the community gets behind the program and encourages that to build tiger fans are going to have to settle for what they have. Who do they think they can hire that will have the draw and ability to bring them back to a powerhouse in a few season's? Support your team, encourage more boys to play, and hope for the best when season is over then unleash your anger and demand a different coach, I'm no fan of Ironton but those player's deserve that at the very least. just my opinion

Pretty dang good first post, spot on.

[fbnut]

Ironton's words have come back home to rest, for years they made fun of the OVC stating that you could never build a playoff caliber team in the OVC its always too weak, that you would always be one and done if you did make playoff's, That to be the best you had to build the best. Now they boast of winning a trophy they once laughed at and belittled. The Burg was the better team, they have a program that not only players and coaches buy into but also the community and supporters. should be very evident by watching last years starting QB loose his position and stay with the team and contribute in a different position, most kids and parents would have transferred out or set out the season, have to admire that young man, The Bob Lutz era and draw to the tank are over and unless the community gets behind the program and encourages that to build tiger fans are going to have to settle for what they have. Who do they think they can hire that will have the draw and ability to bring them back to a powerhouse in a few season's? Support your team, encourage more boys to play, and hope for the best when season is over then unleash your anger and demand a different coach, I'm no fan of Ironton but those player's deserve that at the very least. just my opinion

Pretty dang good first post, spot on.

Excellent comment on last years qb. Most kids today would have quit or transferred. Great example set by the young man and his parents.

[Mad-Dogg]

I love how Burg wins a few games by a lot and you fans start saying end the series it's not competitive anymore. Ironton won like 16 in a row over you guys and not once did people say let's end the series it's not competitive.

They never won 16 straight in this series and our win on sat made 7 straight for us. Majority being blowouts

[Mad-Dogg]

Wheelersburg is hammering everyone in SE Ohio right now. Their program is in a great position, and has always been consistently successful. However, this is a series that Ironton used to control. It may take a while, but I think Ironton will improve enough to make this a competitive series again in the future. Burg could definitely seek out a better opponent, but it's probably a game that shouldn't leave the schedule forever.

I do get what people are thinking though, because I feel the same way about the Jackson/Wellston series. If Wheelersburg wants to take that next step, and become a perennial state title contender, playing opponents that will raise their level of play through more intense competition is the way to do that. I think scheduling Watterson this season is definitely a good thing (even though they're a little down from what they used to be), and more games like that in the future will benefit their program as a whole.

I do believe it's very difficult to convince some schools from the metropolitan areas to travel down to our part of the state, especially when those schools usually play in D3 or higher. They don't wanna make the trip when they can find a competitive game in closer proximity, and they also don't want to get trucked by a D5 program.

wonderful post ironman.

Couldn't agree with more Ironman

[Mad-Dogg]

and yes...Fairland should never have been scheduled!!

I wish we never would have resigned them a couple yrs ago. Personally I'd like to see us pick up wayne, blazer or huntington.

[falcons4life]

I was an impartial fan at this game and watched 1 good football team and 1 football team that could make a serious run to the state! (there is a big difference between the level of talent between a good team and a state contender) Ironton was outmatched in all areas, but is still a good looking ball team. Wheelersburg can go 2-3 deep at all positions and putting their backups in would still result in the team winning nearly every game. I don't think it is time to throw in the towel on this series as it still highlights 2 of the best teams in the area. Best of luck to both teams this year!

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

I don't either friend and I hope they don't.

[Burg4]

Best of luck to the Ironton Tigers during the rest of the year.

As for Burg, time will tell how the year plays out. I have never seen so many threats in all facets of the game. You have second and third stringers coming in who would not only start, but be the best players on about any other team around here. When your backup QB is All-State and backup running backs run 4.5 40-yard-dashes, your team is special.

Again, time will tell...Burg won't get much respect in most of the state, including many people around southern Ohio, until they win the playoff games and win that game this year on December 1st.

Until then, I'll enjoy every play of every game as far as they go. GO BURG!

[ohbuckeye2]

I was an impartial fan at this game and watched 1 good football team and 1 football team that could make a serious run to the state! (there is a big difference between the level of talent between a good team and a state contender) Ironton was outmatched in all areas, but is still a good looking ball team. Wheelersburg can go 2-3 deep at all positions and putting their backups in would still result in the team winning nearly every game. I don't think it is time to throw in the towel on this series as it still highlights 2 of the best teams in the area. Best of luck to both teams this year!

I agree, just 3 years ago the score was 14-6 when Burg made it to the State Semi Finals. I give Burg all due respect, they have had pretty dang good Teams the last few years.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

now time fer the fighting tigers to put that one in the rear view and reel off a string of victories.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

9 would be fine.

[BigChuck]

and yes...Fairland should never have been scheduled!!

I wish we never would have resigned them a couple yrs ago. Personally I'd like to see us pick up wayne, blazer or huntington.

I think any of those three would be good games. Possibly Spring Valley as well.

[Mad-Dogg]

and yes...Fairland should never have been scheduled!!

I wish we never would have resigned them a couple yrs ago. Personally I'd like to see us pick up wayne, blazer or huntington.

I think any of those three would be good games. Possibly Spring Valley as well.

never thought about SV

[i83]

Try Cabell midland the put it on Jackson