The future of grass fields

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The future of grass fields

Post by OVC » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:00 pm

I just saw a post on Facebook where they are raising funds for turf for Minford. I have also heard that Green’s new Stadium when they build schools will have turf. What is the future of grass fields in our area? Are there any other schools getting turf in the forseeable future?


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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by bleed_blue » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:58 am

The way it’s looking grass fields are going to be few and far between. If Minford does get new turf I hope they don’t hire the same company that redone their field about 15 years ago.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by BigBlueNation » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:17 am

Northwest will be getting turf this off season. I think the turf company is going to wait until spring to start on the field.
The athletic facility will be started in the next few weeks.
This building will house weight room, locker rooms for football ,soccer and cross country. There will also be 30 yards of indoor turf along with batting cages in this building.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Proud_Pirate63 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:44 am

BigBlueNation wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:17 am
Northwest will be getting turf this off season. I think the turf company is going to wait until spring to start on the field.
The athletic facility will be started in the next few weeks.
This building will house weight room, locker rooms for football ,soccer and cross country. There will also be 30 yards of indoor turf along with batting cages in this building.
Sounds like it is going to be really nice facilities.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by NYBuckeye96 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:25 pm

I imagine every school that has the fundraising capabilities to install turf will do so.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Wellston Ironman » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:18 pm

No turf at Wellston.......ever.
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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Raider6309 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:29 pm

OVC wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:00 pm
I just saw a post on Facebook where they are raising funds for turf for Minford. I have also heard that Green’s new Stadium when they build schools will have turf. What is the future of grass fields in our area? Are there any other schools getting turf in the forseeable future?
Green is getting turf? That has to be the biggest waste of money ever. Only bigger schools need turf

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by BigBlueNation » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:40 pm

Proud_Pirate63 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:44 am
BigBlueNation wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:17 am
Northwest will be getting turf this off season. I think the turf company is going to wait until spring to start on the field.
The athletic facility will be started in the next few weeks.
This building will house weight room, locker rooms for football ,soccer and cross country. There will also be 30 yards of indoor turf along with batting cages in this building.
Sounds like it is going to be really nice facilities.
Yes it will be. I know the kids are really excited.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by ManitouDan2 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:53 pm

Is turf cheaper over time VS grass ? I know I'm being cynical but with all the financial difficulties and all the " we are so poor" crying from those in academia it sure looks bad to see million dollar HS facilities being thrown up . I'm a fan of small schools , love the spirit and traditions and comradery but Turf at Green ? For there 15 football players ? Cmon .

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Westfan » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm

West is supposed to be getting a turf fund together

Building is near completion now that will have new weightroom, workout facility, and batting cages. Should be really nice.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by OVC » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:21 pm

Westfan wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm
West is supposed to be getting a turf fund together

Building is near completion now that will have new weightroom, workout facility, and batting cages. Should be really nice.
I hate that because West has probably the best grass field I have seen.
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:29 pm
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I just saw a post on Facebook where they are raising funds for turf for Minford. I have also heard that Green’s new Stadium when they build schools will have turf. What is the future of grass fields in our area? Are there any other schools getting turf in the forseeable future?
Green is getting turf? That has to be the biggest waste of money ever. Only bigger schools need turf
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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Westfan » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:21 pm

OVC wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:21 pm
Westfan wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm
West is supposed to be getting a turf fund together

Building is near completion now that will have new weightroom, workout facility, and batting cages. Should be really nice.
I hate that because West has probably the best grass field I have seen.


One reason that it's nice is it's never used to keep it that way. Turf does allow more use, but opening it up to band, soccer, jv, middle school also causes scheduling practice issues.
I like grass too, but it's a disadvantage in the playoffs to play on turf when you play and practice on grass all season, especially in the kicking game. And I've heard that in the future, you may have to have turf to host first round

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Post by countywide35 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:54 am

small school in NEO....Crestwood Mantua........awesome school and known to always be competitive on a state level.......home of in infamous Jack Lambert.....Lambert said he would never pay for his alma mater to have turf on its field as turf toe plagued the man to the end of his career.....

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Orange and Brown » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:49 am

Turf is great. The field is never a sloppy mess, it is easy to maintain, and it holds up to a lot of use.
At Nelsonville-York between the little Bucks, Jr high, and high school it sees a lot of use and has held up well.
You don't have to worry about painting lines either lol
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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by greygoose » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:24 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:49 am
Turf is great. The field is never a sloppy mess, it is easy to maintain, and it holds up to a lot of use.
At Nelsonville-York between the little Bucks, Jr high, and high school it sees a lot of use and has held up well.
You don't have to worry about painting lines either lol
I'd like to see the comparison on how longs these fields last with the more vs less usage. Reason I say this is because at Jackson I know they play, pee wee and junior high games on the old grass field. I also believe the freshman team practices on the grass field beside the stadium. Curious if this helps with field longevity. Green getting turf is strange and I honestly don't know that I'll buy into that one until I see it. I have heard that Minford and P-west are working on turf, West needs to work on moving those visiting bleachers closer guy has to bring a set of binoculars to a high school game.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Mavrick2016 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:35 pm

I would love too see Green get Turf, it would only help their program.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Barber1973 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:38 pm

Field at NY is starting 2 look a little rough how much does it cost just fer new turf and who pays for it

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Nigel Tufnel » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:48 pm

I'm personally not a proponent or opponent of field turf, but some resources you might be interested in:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozania ... c8af245db2

https://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/tournament- ... -vs-grass/

https://unrulysports.com/synthetic-arti ... ss-fields/

I leave it to your discretion to determine if there are biases in these sources. Some readily available sources are pretty obviously slanted (i.e. Artificial turf company statements or sod company statements in favor of their products).

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Orange and Brown » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:05 pm

Barber1973 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:38 pm
Field at NY is starting 2 look a little rough how much does it cost just fer new turf and who pays for it
Fundraising will pay for it. We are looking at replacing it in a couple of years.
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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by Orange and Brown » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:05 pm
Barber1973 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:38 pm
Field at NY is starting 2 look a little rough how much does it cost just fer new turf and who pays for it
Fundraising will pay for it. We are looking at replacing it in a couple of years.
Cost very on what you get.
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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by ArmChairQB » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:43 am

countywide35 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:54 am
small school in NEO....Crestwood Mantua........awesome school and known to always be competitive on a state level.......home of in infamous Jack Lambert.....Lambert said he would never pay for his alma mater to have turf on its field as turf toe plagued the man to the end of his career.....
Jack played on what was basically Concrete covered with indoor outdoor carpet.
I haven’t heard of many players getting turf toe with the synthetic grass fields that are played on today.
I do however think there are more torn ACLs now days.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by 9.5 INCHES » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:55 am

ArmChairQB wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:43 am
countywide35 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:54 am
small school in NEO....Crestwood Mantua........awesome school and known to always be competitive on a state level.......home of in infamous Jack Lambert.....Lambert said he would never pay for his alma mater to have turf on its field as turf toe plagued the man to the end of his career.....
Jack played on what was basically Concrete covered with indoor outdoor carpet.
I haven’t heard of many players getting turf toe with the synthetic grass fields that are played on today.
I do however think there are more torn ACLs now days.
Correct ArmchairQB... It was called Astro turf...it was bad for turf toe for lots of players...Todays synthetic turf is a Cadillac compared to it...Softer with rubber pellets spread into it, and plays almost like real grass... but way less maintenance than real grass....

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by countywide35 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:03 am

ArmChairQB wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:43 am
countywide35 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:54 am
small school in NEO....Crestwood Mantua........awesome school and known to always be competitive on a state level.......home of in infamous Jack Lambert.....Lambert said he would never pay for his alma mater to have turf on its field as turf toe plagued the man to the end of his career.....
Jack played on what was basically Concrete covered with indoor outdoor carpet.
I haven’t heard of many players getting turf toe with the synthetic grass fields that are played on today.
I do however think there are more torn ACLs now days.
I agree with the ACL statement and lambert did play on a not so friendly football field across the OH turnpike in PA. But his statement of not contributing to a cause for artificial playing surface rings volumes with me that the game is intended to be played on natural surfaces. I’m not against the artificial playing surfaces. It’s what the game has turned to

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by greygoose » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:44 pm

Nigel Tufnel wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:48 pm
I'm personally not a proponent or opponent of field turf, but some resources you might be interested in:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozania ... c8af245db2

https://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/tournament- ... -vs-grass/

https://unrulysports.com/synthetic-arti ... ss-fields/

I leave it to your discretion to determine if there are biases in these sources. Some readily available sources are pretty obviously slanted (i.e. Artificial turf company statements or sod company statements in favor of their products).
Typically the initial turf installation runs around 750K, but I believe replacement if a team doesn't wait to long and everything is still in good condition under the turf runs 300-400K. Typical life expectancy on the turf runs around the 10 years mark or so.

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Re: The future of grass fields

Post by greygoose » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:48 pm

Mavrick2016 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:35 pm
I would love too see Green get Turf, it would only help their program.
I find this statement interesting, why would it help their program?? If a kid wants to play football does playing on grass or turf dictate where he'll play?? If someone wants to transfer would putting turf in help?? Very curious as to why it would help?? Talking about a DVII school with budget issues and rumors of them spending 750K on turf seem a bit ridiculous. I said it before I'll believe that one when I see it but heck before the turf they should invest in some decent seating and press box area as well as safe visitor seating. Anytime I've been down to their field it seems like it's in good shape unlike some grass fields I've come across, AKA--Piketon this year. WOW

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