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Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:02 pm
by EasternDspy
Now that the PVC is crumbling what options does Fort have?

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:46 pm
by rickoshay
Maybe MVL for better competition. Hate to think OVAC only. Those up in the valley probably would not wish to travel to Beverly.
And thinking about travel up there, ditto to that idea. Lets hear your thoughts D'spy?

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:49 pm
by Orange and Brown
I'm sure at some point they will reach out to the TVC but do they wanna play Athens every year?

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:49 pm
by Orange and Brown
rickoshay wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:46 pm
Maybe MVL for better competition. Hate to think OVAC only. Those up in the valley probably would not wish to travel to Beverly.
And thinking about travel up there, ditto to that idea. Lets hear your thoughts D'spy?
The MVL already has the teams they want to expand. I don't see them adding anymore.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:02 pm
by EasternDspy
Not sure what they’ll do.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:36 pm
by Cats claw
Ff would be competitive in tvc Ohio . The buckeyes hold there own against Athens . Fort free would not be undefeated most years but would definitely earn it the years they were

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:37 pm
by Dundas
Athens
Gallia
Jackson
Warren
Logan
Marietta

Meigs
Ny
VC
Wellston
Rv
Trimble
Alex
FF

Belpre
Waterford
Miller
Eastern
Southern
SG
Wahama
Fed hock

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:41 pm
by EasternDspy
Dundas wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:37 pm
Athens
Gallia
Jackson
Warren
Logan
Marietta

Meigs
Ny
VC
Wellston
Rv
Trimble
Alex
FF

Belpre
Waterford
Miller
Eastern
Southern
SG
Wahama
Fed hock

Didn’t Marietta and Warren just join ECOL?

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:45 pm
by Dundas
Marietta has been in the ECOL for a few years now and Warren just joined, but I think if the TVC threw this setup at them, they would take it over the long trips to northern Ohio they’ll have in the ECOL. Even if warren and Marietta didn’t join, this could be worked out somehow. 3 division TVC needs to happen.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:49 pm
by FANOSPORTS
EasternDspy wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:41 pm
Dundas wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:37 pm
Athens
Gallia
Jackson
Warren
Logan
Marietta

Meigs
Ny
VC
Wellston
Rv
Trimble
Alex
FF

Belpre
Waterford
Miller
Eastern
Southern
SG
Wahama
Fed hock

Didn’t Marietta and Warren just join ECOL?
Certain schools would never go for this because it would be equitable, fair and balanced but it would be the best fit for all schools concerned. Good alignment and if that would ever happen . :D

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:56 pm
by Mister Bee
The TVC should extend an invite to Fort Frye to join the Hocking division. This would give them 10 members and everyone would have a nonconference game in week 1 for football.

Every team in the Hocking is already driving to Waterford, whats another 2 miles? However, the Cadets may not like the long drive vs what they have now in all sports.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:58 pm
by VetteMan
If I was the TVC I would consider making the TVC - Hocking into 2 Divisions of 5 teams in each division. By adding Fort Frye you would just make the Hocking that much stronger. I then would consider trying to get Oak Hill to come into the TVC - Ohio, making it 8 schools. Just a thought.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:02 pm
by Dundas
VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:58 pm
If I was the TVC I would consider making the TVC - Hocking into 2 Divisions of 5 teams in each division. By adding Fort Frye you would just make the Hocking that much stronger. I then would consider trying to get Oak Hill to come into the TVC - Ohio, making it 8 schools. Just a thought.
I’d love that. Lol

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:15 pm
by EasternDspy
Waterford would probably hate Fort Frye in the Hocking.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:50 pm
by VetteMan
Just a general question! Does it depend on the League,or the Conference as to whether when voting for another school being admitted, that it has to be approved by a unamious vote?

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:59 pm
by efarns
I wouldn't want to join a league without an assigner for refs. Usually, if we play out of The OVAC, officiating is terrible. It seriously detracts from my enjoyment of the game.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:06 pm
by Dundas
VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:50 pm
Just a general question! Does it depend on the League,or the Conference as to whether when voting for another school being admitted, that it has to be approved by a unamious vote?
Depends on the conference. The TVC has a 2/3 rule. Other conferences/leagues require a 100% consensus.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:25 pm
by VetteMan
Dundas wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:06 pm
VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:50 pm
Just a general question! Does it depend on the League,or the Conference as to whether when voting for another school being admitted, that it has to be approved by a unamious vote?
Depends on the conference. The TVC has a 2/3 rule. Other conferences/leagues require a 100% consensus.
Thank you! Once more about the expansion. I know Fort Frye would make the TVC Hocking even that much stronger. With the exception of Athens, more years than not Oak Hill would be able to hold there own in the TVC Ohio.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:27 pm
by Dundas
VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:25 pm
Dundas wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:06 pm
VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:50 pm
Just a general question! Does it depend on the League,or the Conference as to whether when voting for another school being admitted, that it has to be approved by a unamious vote?
Depends on the conference. The TVC has a 2/3 rule. Other conferences/leagues require a 100% consensus.
Thank you! Once more about the expansion. I know Fort Frye would make the TVC Hocking even that much stronger. With the exception of Athens, more years than not Oak Hill would be able to hold there own in the TVC Ohio.
Completely agree with you.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:51 pm
by fortdawg
If they want in it would have to be the Ohio.
I would think if past is prologue that they would be competitive in Football and both Basketballs immediately.
They might not want to face Athens, NY, Meigs, and the others on a regular basis in football and the drive to VC, Wellston, and RV wouldn't be fun in the Winter and Spring.
If the league folds up on them they may not have a choice.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:34 pm
by EasternDspy
fortdawg wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:51 pm
If they want in it would have to be the Ohio.
I would think if past is prologue that they would be competitive in Football and both Basketballs immediately.
They might not want to face Athens, NY, Meigs, and the others on a regular basis in football and the drive to VC, Wellston, and RV wouldn't be fun in the Winter and Spring.
If the league folds up on them they may not have a choice.
Fort Frye is same size as Belpre and Federal Hocking who are in the Hocking. Fort girls are D4 in most sports.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:06 pm
by Dundas
EasternDspy wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:34 pm
fortdawg wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:51 pm
If they want in it would have to be the Ohio.
I would think if past is prologue that they would be competitive in Football and both Basketballs immediately.
They might not want to face Athens, NY, Meigs, and the others on a regular basis in football and the drive to VC, Wellston, and RV wouldn't be fun in the Winter and Spring.
If the league folds up on them they may not have a choice.
Fort Frye is same size as Belpre and Federal Hocking who are in the Hocking. Fort girls are D4 in most sports.
2018 TVC Ohio enrollment plus Fort Frye

Athens 334
Vinton County 252
Meigs 213
Alexander 210
River Valley 203
Wellston 176
Fort Frye 148
Nelsonville-York 147

2018 TVC Hocking enrollment plus Fort Frye

Fort Frye 148
Belpre 125
Federal Hocking 119
Eastern 105
Trimble 102
Wahama 426 (9-12 boys and girls) divided down to 92
South Gallia 91
Southern 91
Miller 82
Waterford 78

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:09 pm
by justpassinthru
Dundas wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:45 pm
Marietta has been in the ECOL for a few years now and Warren just joined, but I think if the TVC threw this setup at them, they would take it over the long trips to northern Ohio they’ll have in the ECOL. Even if warren and Marietta didn’t join, this could be worked out somehow. 3 division TVC needs to happen.
It takes less time and better travel for Marietta to go to New Philly and Dover than to Gallia and Jackson.

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:23 pm
by Raider6309
Fort should get in the Ohio and then move to the Hocking when the Ohio adds Gallia or Warren

Re: Fort Frye

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:02 pm
by fortdawg
Enrollment has nothing to do with it.
The TVC Hocking isn't going to add a power in football and basketball.
They would immediately become one of the top teams in football.
Trimble would match up next year but no one else except maybe Belpre.
Waterford won two TVC Hocking football titles while losing both years to Fort Frye.
If you are in the lower part of the league....why do you trade a winnable non-league game for a beat down?
See what Federal did this year when faced with FF.