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importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:53 am
by Chillifan123
I've seen so many teams that don't have even an average kicker, but it can have a big impact on games . Thoughts??

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:07 am
by LICKING COUNTY FAN
I have watched many of teams lose because they can not even kick point kicks.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:13 am
by OSU22
It is EXTREMELY important! Start them in jr high so they have time to perfect their technique. I also recommend finding somebody who can teach soccer style, can’t stand seeing teams kicking straight on and using that big dumb boot. I’ve seen many games where the team with a good kicker was the difference between a win and a loss

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:08 pm
by Kicker.
It is super important, you could have a kid that is great at getting you that guaranteed point. And if you have a strong leg kicker you can get consistent touchbacks

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:30 pm
by VetteMan
Agree with everything that has been said. The fact that a lot of schools don't even have soccer may have a lot to do with it also. I've noticed that a lot of your smaller schools mostly just squib kick on most of there kickoffs anyway. Also if they don't have confidence in there kicker, more often than not they just line up and go for 2 pts after every score. As I said before, this is mostly just your smaller schools.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 pm
by Frank Reagan
Kicking has become a lost art. The fact that kickoffs have become a thing of the past in All levels from Freshman down, it is hard to develop even a PAT person. Junior high and freshman seem to have little time to work on the kicking and holding, due to one less day of work per week since they play on Thursday. Having a soccer program does help, look at Valley for instance. The Romanello kid kicked and played soccer and was good at both, even was a good receiver.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:59 pm
by Kicker.
Frank Reagan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 pm
Kicking has become a lost art. The fact that kickoffs have become a thing of the past in All levels from Freshman down, it is hard to develop even a PAT person. Junior high and freshman seem to have little time to work on the kicking and holding, due to one less day of work per week since they play on Thursday. Having a soccer program does help, look at Valley for instance. The Romanello kid kicked and played soccer and was good at both, even was a good receiver.

Last season alone the SOC had some of the best in the area kickers at West Burg and Waverly

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:52 pm
by OSU22
I wouldn't say Soccer is essential to have at a school as long as the person teaching/instructing the kickers knows what they're talking about. NY has had a couple kickers as of late who kicked soccer style and have had success. The Maiden kid had one of the strongest legs in the area hands down. And obviously everyone knows Soccer has never been at NY.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:34 pm
by Frank Reagan
OSU22 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:52 pm
I wouldn't say Soccer is essential to have at a school as long as the person teaching/instructing the kickers knows what they're talking about. NY has had a couple kickers as of late who kicked soccer style and have had success. The Maiden kid had one of the strongest legs in the area hands down. And obviously everyone knows Soccer has never been at NY.
Sure, not essential, but doesn’t hurt. There are exceptions to the rule. Not everyone has experts to teach soccer style and I am sure private lessons and camps are expense.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:35 pm
by Frank Reagan
Kicker. wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:59 pm
Frank Reagan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 pm
Kicking has become a lost art. The fact that kickoffs have become a thing of the past in All levels from Freshman down, it is hard to develop even a PAT person. Junior high and freshman seem to have little time to work on the kicking and holding, due to one less day of work per week since they play on Thursday. Having a soccer program does help, look at Valley for instance. The Romanello kid kicked and played soccer and was good at both, even was a good receiver.

Last season alone the SOC had some of the best in the area kickers at West Burg and Waverly
All three have soccer programs. Were all three soccer or former soccer players?

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:01 pm
by Kicker.
Ironically from Burg and West no, the kicker from West was pretty regarded by Chris Sailer who is one of the better kicking coaches for recruiting. Burgs kicker plays baseball also I believe. Waverly was the only one with kickers who had played soccer

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:44 pm
by Rolltanks
Depends on several factors. I’ve seen teams win a majority of there games because of a kicker. Defense can benefit if you get a touchback every kickoff. On the other hand in 2001 I followed Kenton all the way to the d4 title and they never punted once went for two every time and onside kicked every time. No matter how good your kicker is in that system he isn’t a factor lol. Mikes teams were definitely not the norm though.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:21 pm
by teach1coach2
October 5, 2018
6-0 vs 6-0
Tri-Valley 20
Sheridan 19
1 OT

TV had a TD/EP, FG,FG, OT TD/EP
SH had TD/EP, TD missed EP, OT TD missed EP

In the 2nd half and OT, Sheridan missed 2 FG and 2 EP. 1 EP was blocked, other 3 were missed left or right.


League title on the line.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:40 pm
by Mohawk1234
He don’t get many opportunities but Northwest has one of if not the best kicker in the soc 1 or 2

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:48 pm
by LICKING COUNTY FAN
Kicking camps are more important then some understand.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:03 pm
by smurray
Waverlys Grayson Diener is a Junior and yes he plays soccer.
He consistently gets kicks in the end zone, has hit a very high % of his PAT’s (cant remember last miss) and has the leg to make 40-45 yard FG’s, is very accurate from 35.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:31 pm
by rxburgfan
Who would have ever thought there would be HS kids kicking 45+ yard FGs in a game? Not me. Great to see how teams work on kicking game.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:15 pm
by Kicker.
rxburgfan wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:31 pm
Who would have ever thought there would be HS kids kicking 45+ yard FGs in a game? Not me. Great to see how teams work on kicking game.

Notice how it's the good teams that worry about their special teams to be good

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:39 pm
by The Flush
I am impressed by Burg's backup kicker. He could start for a lot of teams.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:01 pm
by The Flush
smurray wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:03 pm
Waverlys Grayson Diener is a Junior and yes he plays soccer.
He consistently gets kicks in the end zone, has hit a very high % of his PAT’s (cant remember last miss) and has the leg to make 40-45 yard FG’s, is very accurate from 35.
Waverly's JV kicker is 16/16 on PATs so far. His range is at least 10 yards less than Diener, but he is only a sophomore and is 2 years younger.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:42 pm
by 79Tiger
The kicker on the 1978 Ironton team had field goals of 29, 31 and 45 yards. The 45 yarder was at Jackson. He was a 3 step straight on kicker. 16 years old that season.

Re: importance of having a good kicker.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:47 pm
by Lonesome Polecat
Kicker? Who needs a kicker! You need the POLECAT!