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If your league were to add a school

Post by one Oak » Sun May 07, 2017 10:14 pm

Who would you want it to be?



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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Seabee_0586 » Sun May 07, 2017 10:19 pm

Manchester in the soc1

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Post by mattash » Sun May 07, 2017 10:32 pm

SOC1- Manchester or South Gallia

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by danicalifornia » Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am

SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.

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Post by LHS 72 » Mon May 08, 2017 5:45 am

Logan to the MSL

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by route7 » Mon May 08, 2017 8:16 am

TVC should boot Athens

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by king kong » Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 am

danicalifornia wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am
SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.
Makes sense for who? Huntington? Paint Valley? Southeastern? Waverly consistently has well over 200 boys, usually near 240 or so per year in grades 9-11. Paint Valley, Huntington, Adena, Southeastern all consistently have in the low 100's to near 140's consistently.

The ONLY school this might benefit is Unioto, who now has someone closer to them in size, and offers the multiple sports that they also offer and with the amount of kids in Waverly, they can consistently make up good soccer, cross country, golf, tennis and track teams, where the 4 I mentioned struggle with numbers at every one of those sports.

The U can find its way into the SOC II, or the new league with Chilli before the SVC lets in a big school that makes it even more top heavy than it is now!

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Orange and Brown » Mon May 08, 2017 10:00 am

route7 wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 8:16 am
TVC should boot Athens
Why?
Can't beat them?
Get better....
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by GoBucks1047 » Mon May 08, 2017 1:59 pm

Ironton St. Joe to SOC I, move South Webster down SOC I setting up 2 divisions in all sports except football, of course, with either a 14 or 16 game conference schedule all other sports, and then round robin conference schedule for football (both Northwest and Oak Hill move up to SOC II when/if Western adds football). Then maybe add Manchester to SOC I for Football-only.

Add Gallia Academy to the TVC Ohio to make 8 teams in the TVC Ohio, then an OVC/SOC Merger creating a 24 team league (SOVC) + maybe Manchester for football only (6+1,7,7 in football; 4,6,4 in soccer; 10,7,7 for all other sports). An alternate option to the SOVC is keep Gallia Academy and add River Valley to the OVC division of the SOVC and move Portsmouth to the SOC II division of the SOVC creating this set up in a 26-team league: (6+1,8,8 for football, 5,5,5 in Soccer with Valley staying down, 10,8,8 all other sports).

Add Fort Frye to the TVC Hocking to make 10 teams there (round robin continues in football, 2-division setup in all other sports with 16 game conference schedules; excludes Cross Country and Track & Field which would be 1 division).

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by GoBucks1047 » Mon May 08, 2017 2:09 pm

king kong wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am
SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.
Makes sense for who? Huntington? Paint Valley? Southeastern? Waverly consistently has well over 200 boys, usually near 240 or so per year in grades 9-11. Paint Valley, Huntington, Adena, Southeastern all consistently have in the low 100's to near 140's consistently.

The ONLY school this might benefit is Unioto, who now has someone closer to them in size, and offers the multiple sports that they also offer and with the amount of kids in Waverly, they can consistently make up good soccer, cross country, golf, tennis and track teams, where the 4 I mentioned struggle with numbers at every one of those sports.

The U can find its way into the SOC II, or the new league with Chilli before the SVC lets in a big school that makes it even more top heavy than it is now!
Only decent way I see that working out is if the SVC also adds a 10th school like Wellston or Vinton County to create a big school/little school divisions with Adena, Huntington, Paint Valley, Piketon, and Southeastern in the little school division and Unioto, Waverly, Westfall, Zane Trace, and the 10th school in the big school division. Then play 8 conference games in football and 16 conference games in all other sports; includes 1 protected cross-over rival to play annually in football and twice in all other sports.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by noreply66 » Mon May 08, 2017 3:31 pm

king kong wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am
SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.
Makes sense for who? Huntington? Paint Valley? Southeastern? Waverly consistently has well over 200 boys, usually near 240 or so per year in grades 9-11. Paint Valley, Huntington, Adena, Southeastern all consistently have in the low 100's to near 140's consistently.

The ONLY school this might benefit is Unioto, who now has someone closer to them in size, and offers the multiple sports that they also offer and with the amount of kids in Waverly, they can consistently make up good soccer, cross country, golf, tennis and track teams, where the 4 I mentioned struggle with numbers at every one of those sports.

The U can find its way into the SOC II, or the new league with Chilli before the SVC lets in a big school that makes it even more top heavy than it is now!
Chillicothe and Unioto didn't like each other at one time and at that time I couldn't see them in the same league. Don't know about how things are now.
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Omega » Mon May 08, 2017 5:57 pm

king kong wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am
SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.
Makes sense for who? Huntington? Paint Valley? Southeastern? Waverly consistently has well over 200 boys, usually near 240 or so per year in grades 9-11. Paint Valley, Huntington, Adena, Southeastern all consistently have in the low 100's to near 140's consistently.

The ONLY school this might benefit is Unioto, who now has someone closer to them in size, and offers the multiple sports that they also offer and with the amount of kids in Waverly, they can consistently make up good soccer, cross country, golf, tennis and track teams, where the 4 I mentioned struggle with numbers at every one of those sports.

The U can find its way into the SOC II, or the new league with Chilli before the SVC lets in a big school that makes it even more top heavy than it is now!
In Waverly's case, numbers have not made them a dominant power over the last 45 years. There have been some great Waverly teams in that span, but more often than not Tiger football and basketball would have been middle of the pack in the SVC. The real argument for Waverly being in the SVC is that their community socially and economically identifies with Chillicothe and Ross County more so than they do with their Scioto County brethren.
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by HighLightReel » Mon May 08, 2017 9:10 pm

If Waverly were to be added to the SVC they would have to add a smaller school, like Beaver Eastern, to make a Small School and Big School Divisions like the SOC 1 and 2. That's the only way I see it making sense for Waverly playing in the SVC.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Seabee_0586 » Mon May 08, 2017 10:17 pm

Take beaver eastern and oak hill and northwest out of soc 1 and get smaller schools in there it would be only fair

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by danicalifornia » Tue May 09, 2017 7:26 am

noreply66 wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 3:31 pm
king kong wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 am
danicalifornia wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 1:42 am
SVC- Waverly. Just makes sense.
Makes sense for who? Huntington? Paint Valley? Southeastern? Waverly consistently has well over 200 boys, usually near 240 or so per year in grades 9-11. Paint Valley, Huntington, Adena, Southeastern all consistently have in the low 100's to near 140's consistently.

The ONLY school this might benefit is Unioto, who now has someone closer to them in size, and offers the multiple sports that they also offer and with the amount of kids in Waverly, they can consistently make up good soccer, cross country, golf, tennis and track teams, where the 4 I mentioned struggle with numbers at every one of those sports.

The U can find its way into the SOC II, or the new league with Chilli before the SVC lets in a big school that makes it even more top heavy than it is now!
Chillicothe and Unioto didn't like each other at one time and at that time I couldn't see them in the same league. Don't know about how things are now.

They play in a lot of sports, but I can't see them being in the same conference until Chillicothe can show that they will stay in one place for a while. I don't think that there are any underlying issues, as there aren't really any issues when the schools play.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by danicalifornia » Tue May 09, 2017 7:27 am

HighLightReel wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 9:10 pm
If Waverly were to be added to the SVC they would have to add a smaller school, like Beaver Eastern, to make a Small School and Big School Divisions like the SOC 1 and 2. That's the only way I see it making sense for Waverly playing in the SVC.
Agreed 100%. I was just answering for the one school, but it would have to be 2.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by king kong » Tue May 09, 2017 8:45 am

If you look at the numbers, Unioto at 253 and growing yearly should move to the Frontier league (Chilli 387, Greenfield 236, Hillsboro 282, Jackson 289, Miami Trace 268 and Court House 255) and then Waverly with 228 would be a lot better fit in the SVC.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Tue May 09, 2017 9:01 am

wheelersburg to the ovc.
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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Tue May 09, 2017 9:01 am

I want them fellers
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by JacksonMayor » Tue May 09, 2017 11:16 am

route7 wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 8:16 am
TVC should boot Athens

Are you stoopid? They want to discuss who we should add.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by wobycat » Tue May 09, 2017 11:48 am

JacksonMayor wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 11:16 am
route7 wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 8:16 am
TVC should boot Athens

Are you stoopid? They want to discuss who we should add.
Are you sure you're the mayor? A person should be more diplomatic when holding a public office. Just saying.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Bigdog » Tue May 09, 2017 11:57 am

SOC should add Portsmouth. Crazy that they are not in the league.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Bigdog » Tue May 09, 2017 12:25 pm

SOCII Football
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It would be a lot better for scheduling and then let the SOC I invite other small schools in.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Tartanblue » Tue May 09, 2017 4:03 pm

With the rumor of Eastern moving up in basketball to the SOC II if they move up in football also, move Oak Hill up with them. Then SOC could see about bringing in South Gallia and/or Manchester. Along with St. Joe possibly.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by NYBuckeye96 » Tue May 09, 2017 5:25 pm

TVC OHIO - Warren or Gallia Academy.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by svac83 » Tue May 09, 2017 5:44 pm

Well This is not a addition but i would like to see Gallia Academy out of the OVC in at least football. But probably really all sports. In a lot of sports competeing the little OVC schools do little to prepare them for post season in there division. In football if they stay in Region 16 they would probably have to win 9 games most years to even sniff a playoff game i haven't done the math to know if that is true. But it seems like it. Now where i would put my Blue devils i dont know. Maybe i would be in favor of leagues trading a couple schools. Like maybe let Portsmouth go to the soc. For Waverly. I dont think you really want to expand above 8 unless your going to like 12.
i understand this move would also probably not make a lot of sense to any other school besides gallia Academy.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Orange and Brown » Tue May 09, 2017 6:02 pm

svac83 wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 5:44 pm
Well This is not a addition but i would like to see Gallia Academy out of the OVC in at least football. But probably really all sports. In a lot of sports competeing the little OVC schools do little to prepare them for post season in there division. In football if they stay in Region 16 they would probably have to win 9 games most years to even sniff a playoff game i haven't done the math to know if that is true. But it seems like it. Now where i would put my Blue devils i dont know. Maybe i would be in favor of leagues trading a couple schools. Like maybe let Portsmouth go to the soc. For Waverly. I dont think you really want to expand above 8 unless your going to like 12.
i understand this move would also probably not make a lot of sense to any other school besides gallia Academy.
When is the last time Gallia had a winning season?
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by svac83 » Tue May 09, 2017 6:19 pm

2012- they made playoffs. 2013 5-5. But have been horrible the last 3 years. think 4 wins in 3 years. But i expect them to be respectable and above .500 very soon.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Orange and Brown » Tue May 09, 2017 6:34 pm

svac83 wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 6:19 pm
2012- they made playoffs. 2013 5-5. But have been horrible the last 3 years. think 4 wins in 3 years. But i expect them to be respectable and above .500 very soon.
So they've been down for more than a couple years?
I'd be more worried about winning football games than changing leagues. You can't beat the teams in your conference but you are worried you can't get enough playoff points?
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by svac83 » Tue May 09, 2017 8:49 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 6:34 pm
svac83 wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 6:19 pm
2012- they made playoffs. 2013 5-5. But have been horrible the last 3 years. think 4 wins in 3 years. But i expect them to be respectable and above .500 very soon.
So they've been down for more than a couple years?
I'd be more worried about winning football games than changing leagues. You can't beat the teams in your conference but you are worried you can't get enough playoff points?
I guess we just look at these things differently when i think of league changes and all i think of the next 20 years not the next 2 or 3. But i agree in there short term as a team they need to just need to worry about getting better everyday.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by TVC » Wed May 10, 2017 12:46 pm

Fort Frye to the TVC Ohio

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Orange and Brown » Wed May 10, 2017 12:48 pm

TVC wrote:
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Fort Frye to the TVC Ohio
While I wouldn't be upset if that were to happen, does Fort Frye want to play Athens and VC every year in football and Basketball?
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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by efarns » Wed May 10, 2017 1:33 pm

Sounds interesting, but I believe we are an hour away from the closest school. I'm sure we'd be willing to schedule non conference games with The TVC Ohio. But nobody's driving to Beverly for a weeknight basketball game. It's the main reason River and Buckeye Trail left The PVC.

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by Bigdog » Wed May 10, 2017 1:53 pm

I also think PIKETON would be a perfect fit for the SOCII

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Re: If your league were to add a school

Post by GoBucks1047 » Wed May 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Wed May 10, 2017 12:48 pm
TVC wrote:
Wed May 10, 2017 12:46 pm
Fort Frye to the TVC Ohio
While I wouldn't be upset if that were to happen, does Fort Frye want to play Athens and VC every year in football and Basketball?
Seeing how Fort Frye has dropped down a bit in enrollment now similar to Belpre and Federal Hocking's enrollment and they're located in the TVC Hocking area, I think placing them in the TVC Hocking would be a better option than Ohio. The area barely expands if at all, it helps with scheduling in football as there are now an even number of teams (1 division, round robin conference schedule), and for the TVC Hocking's other sports, divisions can be set up to help with cutting down on travel while playing a 16 game conference schedule.

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