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2017 Minford Falcons

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by NewEra » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:31 am

What's new? Been hearing of a lot of changes on the staff? Heresay or truth?

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Post by Alitown » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:41 am

I know Luke Keller will be the strength and conditioning coach, and will be helping with the LBs

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Post by Hitman74 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:24 pm

who are the changes? been out of town for a while and how are they looking this up coming seaseon?

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Post by mglight88 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:15 am

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Post by FalconFever02 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:46 pm

With Matiz now defensive coordinator at Portsmouth , what is the staff at Minford looking like ? Who is DC, calling plays, etc? Hoping the Falcons can get off the schneid and make the playoffs again. Football just hasn't been the same in Minford the last couple years, weak crowds often emotionless, small and football plagued with mediocrity and mental mistakes.

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Post by toast » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:40 pm

The freshman group this year were pretty darn amazing in Jr. High. The QB was a stellar athlete and talent. I'd be surprised if he didn't start somewhere this season. Minford has plenty of reasons to be optimistic and should be excited. Did the freshman group ever lose a game in football or basketball while in Jr. High?

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by Bleeding Red » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:05 am

I dont think they lost a game in Jr High. Very good QB and receivers. I'm not sure if they will be ready to see the field this year at the varsity level, but they are an impressive group coming up.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by wobycat » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:15 pm

toast wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:40 pm
The freshman group this year were pretty darn amazing in Jr. High. The QB was a stellar athlete and talent. I'd be surprised if he didn't start somewhere this season. Minford has plenty of reasons to be optimistic and should be excited. Did the freshman group ever lose a game in football or basketball while in Jr. High?
I put 0 stock in junior high. One big hairy kid or two is all you need to run the table.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by NewEra » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:28 pm

Alitown wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:41 am
I know Luke Keller will be the strength and conditioning coach, and will be helping with the LBs
Anyone know the full staff?

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Post by toast » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:55 pm

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I put 0 stock in junior high. One big hairy kid or two is all you need to run the table.
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I'd put a lot more stock in Jr. High than 0. Too many times I've seen a Jr. High group excel in football and go on to do very well in high school. Especially if you have back to back classes that are successful. Granted there are exceptions.

The freshman group from Minford is not just big and strong. They're extremely athletic and talented. They'll do fine at the high school level.

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toast wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:55 pm
I put 0 stock in junior high. One big hairy kid or two is all you need to run the table.
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I'd put a lot more stock in Jr. High than 0. Too many times I've seen a Jr. High group excel in football and go on to do very well in high school. Especially if you have back to back classes that are successful. Granted there are exceptions.

The freshman group from Minford is not just big and strong. They're extremely athletic and talented. They'll do fine at the high school level.
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I've seen a few Jr high teams dominate in Jr high and not be that good in high school. I have also seen not so good Jr high teams be pretty good in highschool.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by wobycat » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:55 pm

toast wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:55 pm
I put 0 stock in junior high. One big hairy kid or two is all you need to run the table.
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I'd put a lot more stock in Jr. High than 0. Too many times I've seen a Jr. High group excel in football and go on to do very well in high school. Especially if you have back to back classes that are successful. Granted there are exceptions.

The freshman group from Minford is not just big and strong. They're extremely athletic and talented. They'll do fine at the high school level.
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Burgs last year seniors junior high team won maybe 2 games in junior high and the juniors last year weren't that much better. There is no indication of success as high schoolers from a junior high football team. When they are big and strong, it probably means they are older or hit puberty.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by Oak » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:41 pm

How many players on last year's burg team didn't have a chance to help them win in middle school because they were playing somewhere else?

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by NewEra » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:24 am

Oak wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:41 pm
How many players on last year's burg team didn't have a chance to help them win in middle school because they were playing somewhere else?
Oh boy, here we go. Also the Minford football coaching staff must be top secret.

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Post by fbnut » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:24 am

Minford has been known in the past to play big strong more mature kids at running back in Jr. High knowing that those kids won't be in the backfield in high school. There is nothing wrong with that but it is hard to determine future success when you have 250lb kids trying to be tackled by 100lb kids. Those 250lb kids often end up being 250lb linemen in high school and those 100lb kids end up being 165-185lb skill athletes

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by wobycat » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:56 am

Oak wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:41 pm
How many players on last year's burg team didn't have a chance to help them win in middle school because they were playing somewhere else?
For seniors I believe it's 0.
For juniors it would be two I think but one that actually played significant minutes.

That's not the argument here. It's that junior high is not a measuring tool of your varsity. Neither is jv or freshman for that matter.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by wobycat » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:59 am

NewEra wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:24 am
Oak wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:41 pm
How many players on last year's burg team didn't have a chance to help them win in middle school because they were playing somewhere else?
Oh boy, here we go. Also the Minford football coaching staff must be top secret.
I've heard a few names but I only recognized ruby and Frazie. A kid I know plays there thinks they are pretty good. He seems to like them.

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Re: 2017 Minford Falcons

Post by toast » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:52 am

"Burgs last year seniors junior high team won maybe 2 games in junior high and the juniors last year weren't that much better. There is no indication of success as high schoolers from a junior high football team. When they are big and strong, it probably means they are older or hit puberty."

Waverly's seniors last year were one of the strongest groups we've had come through in many years. I'll check but I believe Burg beat them in both 7th and 8th grade. This years seniors are also a strong group for Waverly. They did beat Burg in OT in 7th grade and then got shoutout by Burg in 8th grade.

Those are the best back to back classes Waverly has had come through in quite a while and the reason we went 9-1 and made the playoffs last year. Those same two classes from Wheelersburg were pretty darn good!

Valley recently had a class come through that dominated in Jr. high. I don't believe they lost a game. They went on to win the SOC a couple times while in high school. Of course you can find exceptions. And to be fair you would probably have to look at three or four classes in a row to gage high school success. But quality of players and success at the Jr. high level does matter.

Back to the original thought. Minford has several high quality football players in the freshman class. They will make a huge impact. Numbers are low for that group so they will need significant help from the classes around them. It will be interesting watching them proceed through high school. They're good on the basketball court as well.

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Post by Bleeding Red » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:59 am

fbnut wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:24 am
Minford has been known in the past to play big strong more mature kids at running back in Jr. High knowing that those kids won't be in the backfield in high school. There is nothing wrong with that but it is hard to determine future success when you have 250lb kids trying to be tackled by 100lb kids. Those 250lb kids often end up being 250lb linemen in high school and those 100lb kids end up being 165-185lb skill athletes
Totally agree with your point on putting the big kids in the backfield, but this class at Minford threw the ball A LOT.

In the few games I watched, I was really amazed how well the receivers ran routes, how they tracked down the ball and the zip from the QB's arm.

Granted a lot can change in a few years, but their fundamentals looked outstanding and that can be built upon. If these Freshman can contribute, I hope they get some playing time. If they cant make a big impact its better to let them play JV and not throw them to the wolves and break their confidence.

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Post by FalconFever02 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:36 am

If there's a freshman who can throw the ball accurately and set his feet, etc etc . Let it rip and play the young buck.

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Post by wobycat » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:59 pm

toast wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:52 am
"Burgs last year seniors junior high team won maybe 2 games in junior high and the juniors last year weren't that much better. There is no indication of success as high schoolers from a junior high football team. When they are big and strong, it probably means they are older or hit puberty."

Waverly's seniors last year were one of the strongest groups we've had come through in many years. I'll check but I believe Burg beat them in both 7th and 8th grade. This years seniors are also a strong group for Waverly. They did beat Burg in OT in 7th grade and then got shoutout by Burg in 8th grade.

Those are the best back to back classes Waverly has had come through in quite a while and the reason we went 9-1 and made the playoffs last year. Those same two classes from Wheelersburg were pretty darn good!

Valley recently had a class come through that dominated in Jr. high. I don't believe they lost a game. They went on to win the SOC a couple times while in high school. Of course you can find exceptions. And to be fair you would probably have to look at three or four classes in a row to gage high school success. But quality of players and success at the Jr. high level does matter.

Back to the original thought. Minford has several high quality football players in the freshman class. They will make a huge impact. Numbers are low for that group so they will need significant help from the classes around them. It will be interesting watching them proceed through high school. They're good on the basketball court as well.
This kind of proves my point. You can't judge anything from a junior high team. Minfords QB last year for eighth grade was a gun slinger but I've been told that he's old for his grade, which makes a difference. I'm not sure who will fill the role but if he's the best option then you have to go with him.

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Post by Oak » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:44 pm

Wheelersburg with the Pre K had kids a year older than most others for years. When some other schools had kids stay back and repeat a grade (basically putting them on par age wise), it became the reason they were good. Not that they were good athletes.

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Post by Hitman74 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:26 pm

I saw on the school web site the names of the coaching staff and it looks like only three from last years staff is still here.

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Post by JTEK » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:43 pm

Oak wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:44 pm
Wheelersburg with the Pre K had kids a year older than most others for years. When some other schools had kids stay back and repeat a grade (basically putting them on par age wise), it became the reason they were good. Not that they were good athletes.
Don't forget pre 1st :D

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Post by wobycat » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:21 am

Oak wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:44 pm
Wheelersburg with the Pre K had kids a year older than most others for years. When some other schools had kids stay back and repeat a grade (basically putting them on par age wise), it became the reason they were good. Not that they were good athletes.
Good grief. There's an age limit the ohsaa sets. Burg has had one losing season since at least the seventies and that season they lost in playoffs. Are you going to make the claim that they were held back then? The majority of burg athletes graduate at the age of 18.

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Post by Oak » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:09 am

Because you're the one talking about these other kids being older. In a time when 2 parents have to work to make it lots of kids are starting school early to basically have a babysitter. That extra year in school has them graduate at 18/19 instead of 17/18 which is a huge difference.

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Post by JTEK » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:16 pm

Oak wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:09 am
Because you're the one talking about these other kids being older. In a time when 2 parents have to work to make it lots of kids are starting school early to basically have a babysitter. That extra year in school has them graduate at 18/19 instead of 17/18 which is a huge difference.
You can hold a kid back at anytime in grade school.

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Post by toast » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:38 pm

You can hold a kid back at anytime in grade school.
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Not necessarily true. Some schools won't allow it without their permission.

Starting a little later in school or being held back is a HUGE advantage in high school sports especially football. I think everyone knows it a common practice at some schools in southern Ohio and one of the reasons (along with several others) that they have a high rate of success.

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Post by noreply66 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:00 pm

Holding kids back sound like where the name dumb jock came from.
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Post by wobycat » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:31 pm

toast wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:38 pm
You can hold a kid back at anytime in grade school.
Not necessarily true. Some schools won't allow it without their permission.

Starting a little later in school or being held back is a HUGE advantage in high school sports especially football. I think everyone knows it a common practice at some schools in southern Ohio and one of the reasons (along with several others) that they have a high rate of success.
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Wow! Can someone explain how a parent knows that their son will be great or even play at football at the age of 4,5, and 6? People seem to think that every football player at burg is 19 going on 20 when almost everyone is 18 when they graduate.

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Post by Abe Froman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:38 pm

My understanding (Ohio) is that you can play High School sports up until the day before you turn 20-years old. 20, think about that 20.

So a talented 14-year old freshman that starts on maybe not so great of a team can play against maybe multiple players that are days away from being 20 years old. Again, 20. That's right 20.

Insane rule in my opinion if I understand the rule correctly from the OHSAA.

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Post by fbnut » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:46 pm

Abe Froman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:38 pm
My understanding (Ohio) is that you can play High School sports up until the day before you turn 20-years old. 20, think about that 20.

So a talented 14-year old freshman that starts on maybe not so great of a team can play against maybe multiple players that are days away from being 20 years old. Again, 20. That's right 20.

Insane rule in my opinion if I understand the rule correctly from the OHSAA.
I think that's true but that issue is with the ohsaa not the kids or school

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Post by fbnut » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:52 pm

toast wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:38 pm
You can hold a kid back at anytime in grade school.
Not necessarily true. Some schools won't allow it without their permission.

Starting a little later in school or being held back is a HUGE advantage in high school sports especially football. I think everyone knows it a common practice at some schools in southern Ohio and one of the reasons (along with several others) that they have a high rate of success.
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I agree I know for a fact burg has told kids parents in the past that they would not allow there child to to held back

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