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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

Post by 79Tiger » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:58 am

The Burg is having a hard time finding someone to play them outside the SOC. Ironton had the same problem for many years. Never made any sense to me why teams would shy away from playing good programs. It can only make your program better by playing successful programs and right now the Burg is at the top in SE Ohio. The Burg always played Ironton even in the lean years and Ironton is doing the same now. It only makes sense from a Coach's perspective. You want to test your team early on against the best to see where your weaknesses and strengths are. Then, hopefully, you have 8 or 9 games to make improvements or you can go down hill from there.



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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:13 am

very well said. like it or not for burg as far as a reference burg is becoming what ironton was. I remember in the 70's in the seoal when mike burcham was trying to get ooc games. and it's unbelievable the teams that said no. big ole whopping teams that were playing in state finals year in and out. and great point about ironton sticking with burg when they were not that competitive.and I'm proud of the burg for doing the same.like it or not the tigers are still a points bonanza with all the ovc wins.the burg is quickly catching this series back up, but I appreciate them being patient with ironton as well while they struggle. now if we can get our real fighting tiger team back n up n running. the addition of mark hammer lutz to rock hills head coach really was a big addition to the ovc. if we can get south point, and fairland back on track the ovc will become very deep. now we just have to prove it in weeks 11-15. the soc is the same way right now, very top heavy. the emergence of Minford has been a welcome change, and west has been down as well as Lucasville. get several of those teams back on track and see what we got. I'd love to see the 2 leagues murge myself. wow what a conference that could be.
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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

Post by Mad-Dogg » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:33 am

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:very well said. like it or not for burg as far as a reference burg is becoming what ironton was. I remember in the 70's in the seoal when mike burcham was trying to get ooc games. and it's unbelievable the teams that said no. big ole whopping teams that were playing in state finals year in and out. and great point about ironton sticking with burg when they were not that competitive.and I'm proud of the burg for doing the same.like it or not the tigers are still a points bonanza with all the ovc wins.the burg is quickly catching this series back up, but I appreciate them being patient with ironton as well while they struggle. now if we can get our real fighting tiger team back n up n running. the addition of mark hammer lutz to rock hills head coach really was a big addition to the ovc. if we can get south point, and fairland back on track the ovc will become very deep. now we just have to prove it in weeks 11-15. the soc is the same way right now, very top heavy. the emergence of Minford has been a welcome change, and west has been down as well as Lucasville. get several of those teams back on track and see what we got. I'd love to see the 2 leagues murge myself. wow what a conference that could be.
couldn't have said it better myself ytb. as for the merger. i've always said the soc and the ovc should merge as one and break it into like a 3 div conference. talk about a power conference. it could turn into the southern half of the states mac
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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:very well said. like it or not for burg as far as a reference burg is becoming what ironton was. I remember in the 70's in the seoal when mike burcham was trying to get ooc games. and it's unbelievable the teams that said no. big ole whopping teams that were playing in state finals year in and out. and great point about ironton sticking with burg when they were not that competitive.and I'm proud of the burg for doing the same.like it or not the tigers are still a points bonanza with all the ovc wins.the burg is quickly catching this series back up, but I appreciate them being patient with ironton as well while they struggle. now if we can get our real fighting tiger team back n up n running. the addition of mark hammer lutz to rock hills head coach really was a big addition to the ovc. if we can get south point, and fairland back on track the ovc will become very deep. now we just have to prove it in weeks 11-15. the soc is the same way right now, very top heavy. the emergence of Minford has been a welcome change, and west has been down as well as Lucasville. get several of those teams back on track and see what we got. I'd love to see the 2 leagues murge myself. wow what a conference that could be.
couldn't have said it better myself ytb. as for the merger. i've always said the soc and the ovc should merge as one and break it into like a 3 div conference. talk about a power conference. it could turn into the southern half of the states mac

What ?!?!?
I'm sorry in all due respect how would they even resemble the mac ?
Who besides burg can make playoff runs ?

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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:very well said. like it or not for burg as far as a reference burg is becoming what ironton was. I remember in the 70's in the seoal when mike burcham was trying to get ooc games. and it's unbelievable the teams that said no. big ole whopping teams that were playing in state finals year in and out. and great point about ironton sticking with burg when they were not that competitive.and I'm proud of the burg for doing the same.like it or not the tigers are still a points bonanza with all the ovc wins.the burg is quickly catching this series back up, but I appreciate them being patient with ironton as well while they struggle. now if we can get our real fighting tiger team back n up n running. the addition of mark hammer lutz to rock hills head coach really was a big addition to the ovc. if we can get south point, and fairland back on track the ovc will become very deep. now we just have to prove it in weeks 11-15. the soc is the same way right now, very top heavy. the emergence of Minford has been a welcome change, and west has been down as well as Lucasville. get several of those teams back on track and see what we got. I'd love to see the 2 leagues murge myself. wow what a conference that could be.
couldn't have said it better myself ytb. as for the merger. i've always said the soc and the ovc should merge as one and break it into like a 3 div conference. talk about a power conference. it could turn into the southern half of the states mac
it very well could my friend.
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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:36 pm

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Mad-Dogg wrote:
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:very well said. like it or not for burg as far as a reference burg is becoming what ironton was. I remember in the 70's in the seoal when mike burcham was trying to get ooc games. and it's unbelievable the teams that said no. big ole whopping teams that were playing in state finals year in and out. and great point about ironton sticking with burg when they were not that competitive.and I'm proud of the burg for doing the same.like it or not the tigers are still a points bonanza with all the ovc wins.the burg is quickly catching this series back up, but I appreciate them being patient with ironton as well while they struggle. now if we can get our real fighting tiger team back n up n running. the addition of mark hammer lutz to rock hills head coach really was a big addition to the ovc. if we can get south point, and fairland back on track the ovc will become very deep. now we just have to prove it in weeks 11-15. the soc is the same way right now, very top heavy. the emergence of Minford has been a welcome change, and west has been down as well as Lucasville. get several of those teams back on track and see what we got. I'd love to see the 2 leagues murge myself. wow what a conference that could be.
couldn't have said it better myself ytb. as for the merger. i've always said the soc and the ovc should merge as one and break it into like a 3 div conference. talk about a power conference. it could turn into the southern half of the states mac

What ?!?!?




I'm sorry in all due respect how would they even resemble the mac ?
Who besides burg can make playoff runs ?

poo you know these things run in cycles any team is capable of it any given year. but the mac does it consistently across the board with every school in it. we don't have anything that would even compare presently. but it is what it is here. and you have your bigger schools that are virtually all the same size then you have a few that are smaller. Portsmouth east, and notre dame would make excellent additions to the smaller tier of the soc as well as symmes valley. it's all Lawrence and Scioto county anyway with the exception of gahs.which is Gallia county.
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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:36 pm

maybe 8 league games and 2 ooc games a year.
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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:39 pm

with a rotational schedule.
look at like the 14 team super leagues in college football for an example. think of what it could do financially for every team involved. the only reason the attendance has been down in the ovc is because ironton has dominated it football wise. no matter how close the wins have come by. a good majority o these teams are playing each other yearly anyway.
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Post by yabbadabbadoo » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:55 pm

Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal

I thought the schedule was set for next year per the above post?


Who are they dropping?? Ironton, Fairland, Heath, Bishop Watterson or Jackson????

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yabbadabbadoo wrote:
Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal

I thought the schedule was set for next year per the above post?


Who are they dropping?? Ironton, Fairland, Heath, Bishop Watterson or Jackson????
Fairland. From what I was told it will look like this in 2018

Ironton
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Jackson
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Re: what will Burg's 2017 schedule look like?

Post by ravensfan9 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:54 am

I'm glad they will actually play competition. If they don't challenge themselves, the players and coaches can not get better. With that schedule...6-4 gets then in the playoffs and maybe 5-5. Nice job Burg!!

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Post by Oak » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:06 pm

ravensfan9 wrote:I'm glad they will actually play competition. If they don't challenge themselves, the players and coaches can not get better. With that schedule...6-4 gets then in the playoffs and maybe 5-5. Nice job Burg!!
If they don't win a couple big point games 6 wins will not get you in most years and no way will 5 wins.

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Post by fbnut » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Oak wrote:
ravensfan9 wrote:I'm glad they will actually play competition. If they don't challenge themselves, the players and coaches can not get better. With that schedule...6-4 gets then in the playoffs and maybe 5-5. Nice job Burg!!
If they don't win a couple big point games 6 wins will not get you in most years and no way will 5 wins.
Quick glance looks like 19 teams made playoffs last year with 6 wins
2 made it with 5 wins

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fbnut wrote:
Oak wrote:
ravensfan9 wrote:I'm glad they will actually play competition. If they don't challenge themselves, the players and coaches can not get better. With that schedule...6-4 gets then in the playoffs and maybe 5-5. Nice job Burg!!
If they don't win a couple big point games 6 wins will not get you in most years and no way will 5 wins.
Quick glance looks like 19 teams made playoffs last year with 6 wins
2 made it with 5 wins
That very well may be true but in our case the last few yrs we haven't been gettin a lot of 2nd level points with teams like ironton, fairland, ports on the schedule.
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Re: Wheelersburg 2017 Football

Post by Oak » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:01 pm

Two teams made it in Region 19 with 7 wins. None with 6. Best finish of a 6 win team was 12th. Region 19 usually requires a good point total to make it.

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Post by GoBucks1047 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:19 am

Oak wrote:Two teams made it in Region 19 with 7 wins. None with 6. Best finish of a 6 win team was 12th. Region 19 usually requires a good point total to make it.
I took a look back from 2013 (when 7 divisions started in football) through this past season in Burg's region, a 6-3 Rock Hill (6th seed) and 6-4 Ironton (8th) made the playoffs last year (2015) while a 5-5 Westfall (7th) and 5-5 Zane Trace (8th) made it in 2013. 7 teams that were 7-2 or 7-3 have made the playoffs since 2013 with at least 1 each year. I could see 6-win Burg could make the playoffs, but I think 7 wins is needed to make the playoffs most years.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:44 am

I remember a lot of times in the past when ironton played columbus desales for many years and it seemed like we were always ahead till late in the game and they'd come back and beat us. other than a 40-0 shelling we took there in stallion land once. but my point was it seemed like they beat us to get in the playoffs at 5-5 or 6-4. then they'd win state. but they were playing teams on their schedule like mooney, Watterson, Hartley, and the like and some schools from the upper divisions.
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Post by Pirate Nation » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:52 pm

I hope that the Hartley game will be on a Saturday night. The gate would be incredible. A ton of people from the area would come to the Ed for that one!

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Post by EagleFan89 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:25 pm

Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal
2017 or 2018?

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EagleFan89 wrote:
Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal
2017 or 2018?

I thought I read it is for the 2018 season.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:36 am

Hartley is also a great pickup guys.
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Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal
2017 or 2018?
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yabbadabbadoo wrote:
EagleFan89 wrote:
Mad-Dogg wrote:I received a text today from a reliable source sayin we picked up bishop hartley next yr. It's at least a 2 yr deal
2017 or 2018?

I thought I read it is for the 2018 season.
it is 2018. that would be next season. 2017 is this season
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Post by Abe Froman » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:24 am

8-2 Regular Season Record

11-2 Final Season Record

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Post by wobycat » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:05 am

Abe Froman wrote:8-2 Regular Season Record

11-2 Final Season Record
Who you have losses to? And you're saying they win it all? No more losses?

Burg has talent returning. This should be a year where expectations are high but I agree they will be tested and probably will lose a couple, which is what they need. Ironton will be a tough out, Jackson and watterson too. Favorable schedule for home games. Should be a fun year.

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Post by Abe Froman » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:59 am

wobycat wrote:
Abe Froman wrote:8-2 Regular Season Record

11-2 Final Season Record
Who you have losses to? And you're saying they win it all? No more losses?

Burg has talent returning. This should be a year where expectations are high but I agree they will be tested and probably will lose a couple, which is what they need. Ironton will be a tough out, Jackson and watterson too. Favorable schedule for home games. Should be a fun year.
My bad meant 10-3 final record. Have them losing week 13 again.

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Post by ravensfan9 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:18 am

I'm guessing 9-3.

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Re: Wheelersburg 2017 Football

Post by Oak » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:31 am

If they get bumped up to D4, that is a whole different animal. Look at the team that beat Waverly last year which got destroyed the following week.

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Post by fbnut » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:07 am

Oak wrote:If they get bumped up to D4, that is a whole different animal. Look at the team that beat Waverly last year which got destroyed the following week.
correct me if i'm wrong but in order for burg to jump up to 4 based on last year's div numbers wouldn't they have to have 20 kids on team living outside of school district? they may have a couple but i would find it hard to believe there anywhere near 20

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Post by Oak » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:12 am

Possibly. But the cutoff numbers are not set in stone and it looks like everyone is smaller this year so the cutoff may be much lower than it was last year. They may make it but I bet it's close, if the competitive balance is used.

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Post by Blitz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:03 pm

wont be close at all D5 top half 10 kids shy at 175

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Post by 14U » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:54 pm

When I went to watch burg-cold water few years back their dads were telling me they want to play teams around here but nobody would call back. They will play anybody they told us and would like to make it a yearly thing

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Re: Wheelersburg 2017 Football

Post by 14U » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:10 pm

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:I remember a lot of times in the past when ironton played columbus desales for many years and it seemed like we were always ahead till late in the game and they'd come back and beat us. other than a 40-0 shelling we took there in stallion land once. but my point was it seemed like they beat us to get in the playoffs at 5-5 or 6-4. then they'd win state. but they were playing teams on their schedule like mooney, Watterson, Hartley, and the like and some schools from the upper divisions.

They play some big Cincinnati team in those years too!! Desalts always played big time schedule with Ironton on their scedule. If I remember right Ironton was the smallest school they played

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Post by 14U » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:11 pm

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:Hartley is also a great pickup guys.

Yes Hartley is always a good pick up for ur schedule

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Re: Wheelersburg 2017 Football

Post by 14U » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:23 pm

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:I remember a lot of times in the past when ironton played columbus desales for many years and it seemed like we were always ahead till late in the game and they'd come back and beat us. other than a 40-0 shelling we took there in stallion land once. but my point was it seemed like they beat us to get in the playoffs at 5-5 or 6-4. then they'd win state. but they were playing teams on their schedule like mooney, Watterson, Hartley, and the like and some schools from the upper divisions.

Yes but Ironton would play anybody back in the 70's, 80's and 90's. They came away with some losses but it made the fighting tiger better and stronger when their playoff run came around game 11 and on!! Another thing Ironton and Portsmouth done alike back in the 80's and 90's was pick up big WV teams for good points. Don't know why those two schools got away from playing the WV schools they never lost too for easy points?

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