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Postby High Roller » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:20 pm

Teammates, their own parents, and the coaching staff need to hold Tiger athletes accountable that don't attend summer fitness/weights. Coaches need to tell the kids that don't come out on time at the start of the season to hit the bricks unless there is injury related circumstances.



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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby IBTT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:41 am

Accountability is very important this season. They have finally hired Brandon Walker on as full time Strength and fitness director, this I was told was supposed to have happened in March of last year, but was not done until just recently. With him on staff, there should be no reason what so ever for these kids not to be in shape for next season. Last season had issues with not being able to start true training for the football players who were interested in training as soon as the season was out. Basically, true training never took place until the middle of March, and then it was a while before that all got straightened out. This year if these kids want to have teams anything like back in the 80s and 90s the training must start now. Coaches should be right on it. Last year, I happened to see firsthand the Wheelersburg coaches and training. It started the Monday following their loss in the playoffs. The kids had their maxes on the walls of the weight room and the coaches had them in their computers. The coaches knew what they would have to get out of their kids in order to win, and the kids had something to beat by looking up on the walls at the past years best players and teams had done. The coaches were studying film in November, and not just one or two..it was the whole coaching staff wanting to improve. That was impressive.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby High Roller » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:12 am

I would think the Tiger staff should split this Saturday. Half should be watching NY vs Burg and the other half watching Coshocton vs Garaway. This is a golden opportunity to see region foes live. No excuse to not be in attendance scouting.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:44 am

noreply66 wrote:Unless Bait changed something I don't see where He used the word punk



I think yA'LL KNOW ME LONG ENOUGH to know I didn't change anything.
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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:04 am

I will have no part into turning this topic into anything negative. I was just saying don't outsiders start talking crap about us now the season is over. it may have been because of our 7 wins after you beat us that is a big part of why you were hosting a game in week 11. ironton has enough going on without putting words in fan's mouths. but suffice it to say. no ironton team in 50 years have set their goals to win the ovc or just make it to the playoffs. and the soc or the ovc does not prepare you for playing past week 10. unless you have an aggressive out of conference schedule and win those games which ironton did not. look at waverly d4 in the soc, barely got beat by burg, smashed by valley view. and they had a fine ball club this year. they really did. ironton may never be back at a level that fighting tiger fans are used to see playing on Friday nights. but we have a wealth of memories and are proud of the boys from past, present and future. and there are more sports than football involved here. and that's why these 2 leagues make sense. people refuse to admit that it does not matter when you play schools that are either right beside or in a big city. the talent pool changes greatly. it's like a pond where it's hard to catch a fish, as opposed to the same size pond that you catch so many your shoulders get sore reeling them in. you just have more to involve. I'm proud of the tigers and the coaches and the community. if they make changes realize it's never going to be lutz/burcham again.whether they make changes or not, and I'm not calling for that. get behind who you got n support them. the failures the fighting tigers are seeing are problems that take common sense to fix. but thanks for another great season. we love ya bait.
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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby Oak » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:40 am

Good post YTB.
Wheelersburg is the best team around here right because of kids that moved in. They may have played in Wheelersburg's system for years but they aren't from Wheelersburg. The quarterback is the best player on the team. He is from South Webster. There are many others.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:14 am

THAT AIN'T REALLY NO CONCERN OF MINE. I ALREADY KNOW A LOT OF THIS ANYWAY.
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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby Noitall » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:18 am

Ain't no one from irony going to say nuffin about playing with kids from another a chip district

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Postby wobycat » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:37 am

Oak wrote:Good post YTB.
Wheelersburg is the best team around here right because of kids that moved in. They may have played in Wheelersburg's system for years but they aren't from Wheelersburg. The quarterback is the best player on the team. He is from South Webster. There are many others.


Enlighten us? How many drive in for open enrollment? Because if they live in the district, it doesn't matter where they came from. Does the quarterback drive in from south Webster? But honestly that wouldn't matter because Webster doesn't offer football and he would be allowed to play probably anyways. I'm from Kentucky, moved in when I was 5, graduated from burg, does that not make me a burg person? What about all those kids born at SOMC? Should they have been born at their house within porter township to qualify?

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:23 am

Noitall wrote:Ain't no one from irony going to say nuffin about playing with kids from another a chip district


noitall----------------- you probably got knocked over a lot at recess and maybe even had yer lunch money stoled.
there ain't no ironton posters on here gonna trash our program. too many memories. kids came in from adjoining districts in the past to get scholarships to play college ball,play for bob lutz and his legendary staff, win state titles, seoal titles, regional finals, etc.ain't a dang fool thing I can do about that. that did not happen when I played, you played ball there you lived there. whatever happened in recent years I have no idea. -------------------- but the same thing was/is going on everywhere in the state. you noitall, so you know this already. the only reason ironton was so hated was because they were so good with developing talent and playing into the 14th 15th game of the season. and they stepped on a lot of toes doing it. if you wonder where your fans are. they're traveling all over the state watching tiger football games back then. so our decline is something everybody that don't like ironton is trying to get their shots in at them now. no respect intended towards any ovc team at all here. but it was just a couple years ago that all the county schools wanted a piece of ironton, begged for it. now they are leagued up together. the talent is down in the soc and the ovc because there hain't no jobs here anymore.which translates to less people. it weren't that long ago there was A,AA,AAA. and ironton was AA. times have changed, programs n leadership have changed, staffs have changed, at least being a former fighting tiger I was taught to respect people and shake their hands win or lose. I only played through 10th. but i'll never forget it and the thrill of coming out of that ancient locker room where the ironton tanks roamed. to total pand-leeria. and packed houses on both sides, and hundreds of people standing around the fences as well. hard to even find a seat back then. so I understand a touch of jealousy, we take it as a compliment. WE RESPECT EVERYONE, FEAR NO ONE. someday somebodies gonna see that. and say ole bait said something I wanna put on a tee shirt.
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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby farmer » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:18 pm

Just because a student is born in a certain school district does not mean he is forced to serve that school district for life. Some are a better fit at another school for various reasons. In our country we have many freedoms that are exploited in many ways not intended. If a student/family thinks another school gives them the best opportunity in life then go for it. Then the other school should look at improving and making themselves the best option. Instead of they went here first they stay.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:38 pm

I agree farmer. that dog'll hunt anywhere.
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Postby Noitall » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:57 pm

Lmfao!

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby timbo5252$ » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:29 pm

Well I for one was looking for another week, when you lose it's never fun but with all the injuries we had this season I'm glad we made the playoffs, there was a time earlier in the season I thought we may go 3 and 7, Coshoction was the better team but we can should not hang our head's, I think next year will be even better, Tigers, nice season, you blink and before you know it another season will be here.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby vladimir » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:48 pm

What style of offense did Coshocton run? Any players that are standouts?

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Postby Game day » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:08 am

If anyone read the Ironton sport section Sunday you know why football is not the same in Ironton. The article head line reads there were no expectations for this years team. Something of that nature. I would suggest if you have not read it take some time to look up the article.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby G&g » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:34 am

vladimir wrote:What style of offense did Coshocton run? Any players that are standouts?


Coshocton runs a Wing T. Several good athletes that work very well together as a unit.

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby Redsfan » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:49 am

Oak,

Tell us all exactly when Wheelersburg's quarterback went to school at Webster.....or even lived in Webster for that matter. I'll save you some time.....NEVER!

Remember...you can't believe everything you read on this site. Actually, most of it isn't true at all.

His father graduated from Webster in 1991. That doesn't mean his son is from Webster. SMH.....

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Re: Reg 19 #6 Ironton (7-3) @ #3 Coshocton (8-1)

Postby IBTT » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:07 am

Game day wrote:If anyone read the Ironton sport section Sunday you know why football is not the same in Ironton. The article head line reads there were no expectations for this years team. Something of that nature. I would suggest if you have not read it take some time to look up the article.


I think that is pure sad if an Ironton newspaper actually put that into type. I think every one of the players and the true fans all expected a lot out of this group of kids. Heck, if the ball would have bounced the other way this team could easily have been 9-1 and without all of the injuries it's hard to tell how far this team would have gone. I have to say game one Ironton wasn't prepared and until the Chesepeake game, most of the kids didn't actually have their feet under them. We had a lot of young kids who hadn't played ball in a few years that were starters and many who were trying out new positions. Next year I believe will be even better, maybe a special group. Go Tigers!!!

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Game day » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:25 am

The new goal for the team is win the OVC. Which is ok but we have lowered the bar and when you do that the kids and the staff sink to that level.

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:10 am

I have not read the article myself. anybody familiar with the program or played in ironton
knows they had 3 goals win the league, go undefeated, win state. it's that simple. I can't tell you about the new regime. but bob lutz would have given you grass drills for even letting this thought into your head. the goal has never been to just win a league, ovc, seoal, okac,etc.

I have no idea why an article like this ever went to print. sounds personal to me. fix your problems in house whatever they are, and get better, coaching, execution, training, weight training, desire. whatever it may be. handle these things internally and improve. and if any changes need made whatever they are, then make them and stand by them.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:11 am

Game day wrote:The new goal for the team is win the OVC. Which is ok but we have lowered the bar and when you do that the kids and the staff sink to that level.



you know better than this man. you're better than that.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Game day » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:50 pm

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:
Game day wrote:The new goal for the team is win the OVC. Which is ok but we have lowered the bar and when you do that the kids and the staff sink to that level.



you know better than this man. you're better than that.


Reporting facts there is nothing wrong with that by the way Ironton has not won a none league game in 2 years. This staff has let the bar sink to the lowest level it has been at in 45 years. Both Bob Bruney and Bob Lutz would have not stood for what has happened to this program in the last 5 years. There needs to be a whole sale of changes to the staff and if Vass can't do it then get some else.

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:06 am

I agree bruney and lutz would never have put up with this. and you're exactly right about not winning any out of conference games. but I cannot fathom for even a minute their goal is to win the league only and be happy or content with that. changes definitely need made, but to what extent I will allow people above my pay raise to analyze that. whether it's different coaches, more weight training, more participation, being more accountable for off season workouts, not enough contact in practice, lack of discipline or whatever the case may be. it's obvious ironton still has the horses, and they can provide that right inside their walls, it's what can we do to get more out of the horses, and/or whoever is driving the wagon.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:11 am

the past of ironton football , it's scheduling and success, multiple state titles, etc. are all I need to see to know that winning the ovc is not the main goal of the program. but that has been the case the last 2 years winning the league. the league overall needs to get stronger , not just ironton. the same issues for lack of success is league wide. not just ironton. these are all smaller districts but provide hard nosed ball players despite that. every staff and player must be more accountable for making their programs thrive. and that's just not happening at this time.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Orange and Brown » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:29 am

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:the past of ironton football , it's scheduling and success, multiple state titles, etc. are all I need to see to know that winning the ovc is not the main goal of the program. but that has been the case the last 2 years winning the league. the league overall needs to get stronger , not just ironton. the same issues for lack of success is league wide. not just ironton. these are all smaller districts but provide hard nosed ball players despite that. every staff and player must be more accountable for making their programs thrive. and that's just not happening at this time.

You can't put Irontons downfall on the rest of the league. Ironton knew what they were getting into when they joined. The Tigers aren't drawing kids from around the area like they used to.

The first thing Ironton needs to do is get behind their coaches and quit calling for their heads after a loss.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:18 am

I hope you are right about ironton becoming a better program as has your team o n b.

but in no way was I blaming ironton's demise on the league. re-read my post my post was about the league being too widespread geographically. and as far as size wise Portsmouth and ironton were the 2 smaller school's in the league as we last know it. but the nearly 1,000 job losses at Armco aka ak steel, the railroads and the like have caused these communities to lose mass amounts of population.ironton's downward spiral win wise is because bob lutz is gone. he is the winningest ohio high school coach. so that speaks for itself. the thing now is getting the program back on track and beating their league games but their out of conference games as well with wheelersburg, Russell and Ashland, ky. these are key factors in being prepared for post season with 3 very fine football programs. ironton football will be back. but my post was about the seoal not ironton. it was just too wide spread geographically. as much as I loved it. travel was the demise of the league. many people simply could not afford to travel to Zanesville and Marietta and the like from the Portsmouth and ironton areas. and with nearly no industry in the areas of ironton and Portsmouth it affected crowds as well. the seoal of the 70's was much more workable as the farthest travel was logan or meigs. with teams like wellston, Jackson, Athens, meigs, logan, ironton and the like. and gas was less than 1.00 a gallon as well. when I got my license in 76 gas was .46 a gallon. school districts just had to reel costs in and tighten up their belts. and that's how things just had to be. every successful district is going to have open enrollment interest. that's a mute point. success breeds success. it's just a fact. but it is going on everywhere.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

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Question

Isn't gas paid by boosters :?: Seen on this site where people say the school doesn't pay for gas --boosters or other programs do :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: But wear and tear on buses is another thing.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

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noreply66 wrote:Question

Isn't gas paid by boosters :?: Seen on this site where people say the school doesn't pay for gas --boosters or other programs do :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: But wear and tear on buses is another thing.

I've never heard that before

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Paladin » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:52 am

This is another game where I expected the SEO team to lose. The Shockers are tough.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Abe Froman » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:57 am

The Ironton game was a couple weeks ago genius. Coshocton gets another chance at a SEO team tonight.

Stay tuned for the result.

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Paladin » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:37 am

Just saying..................... Burg is the only team I see making it to the semis, but should be a close game.
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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby Ground Buck » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:30 am

Paladin wrote:Just saying..................... Burg is the only team I see making it to the semis, but should be a close game.


Yes, but don't they look slow on film? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Coshocton 34 Ironton 11

Postby YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:15 pm

fbnut wrote:
noreply66 wrote:Question

Isn't gas paid by boosters :?: Seen on this site where people say the school doesn't pay for gas --boosters or other programs do :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: But wear and tear on buses is another thing.

I've never heard that before



I have no idea.
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