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Post by mattash » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:09 pm

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Post by Jeremy ghs05 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:15 pm

Green has a lot out

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Post by Mailman » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:08 pm

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Post by BiddyBallDaddy » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:10 pm

Oak Hill will have a running clock. I had some high hopes for Green, but after seeing 2 of their games I question how they pulled off the game vs Symmes Valley.

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Post by hoot » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:37 am

Oaks big.

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Post by Blue33 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:04 pm

Oaks by a truckload..

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Post by SEOPlegend » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:11 pm

Hmmm I dont know, this might be closer than what people imagine.
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Post by Jason Vorhees » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:28 pm

I highly doubt that this game will be close. Green may surprise Oak Hill for a quarter but, considering the Oaks have outscored Green 234-33 the previous four seasons, it would surprise me one bit if the game is over by halftime. Considering also that Oak Hill has outscored Green 433-87 speaks volumes of how this game will probably go. You may want to get off that pacifier, SEOPlegend. Someone has been putting more than Similac in your baby formula.

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Post by The Oaf » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:43 pm

After Green's bed$hitting at NW last week what really needs to be said?
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Post by X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:35 am

OAKS BIGGG
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Post by Catchup13 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:18 am

Jason Vorhees wrote:I highly doubt that this game will be close. Green may surprise Oak Hill for a quarter but, considering the Oaks have outscored Green 234-33 the previous four seasons, it would surprise me one bit if the game is over by halftime. Considering also that Oak Hill has outscored Green 433-87 speaks volumes of how this game will probably go. You may want to get off that pacifier, SEOPlegend. Someone has been putting more than Similac in your baby formula.
You sure that 234-33 isn't the enrollment difference in these 2 schools? :lol: :lol: Oaks still fighting in the SOCI.

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Re: WK10 Oak Hill (4-5) @ Green (3-6)

Post by Jason Vorhees » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:59 am

No, Oak Hill has 150 boys in the high school, while Green probably has half as many. It's still not as large a disparity as Northwest and Green.

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Post by Carter » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:04 pm

The Oaf wrote:After Green's bed$hitting at NW last week what really needs to be said?
Guess it "Depends" if Green is healthy? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Carter wrote:
The Oaf wrote:After Green's bed$hitting at NW last week what really needs to be said?
Guess it "Depends" if Green is healthy? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Jeremy ghs05 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:42 pm

Green has a lot of guys out this week

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Post by sportsfanscioto » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:16 pm

Jason Vorhees wrote:No, Oak Hill has 150 boys in the high school, while Green probably has half as many. It's still not as large a disparity as Northwest and Green.
Northwest, based on last years numbers since this years aren't official, only has 5 more boys than oak hill and 7 more than burg. This years numbers will show northwest is down a couple more students from last year. Northwest isn't as large of a school based on number of students as it was back in the 90's. However it is still as large based on square milieage. Oak hill and burg average about 10 male high school students grades 9-11 per square mile. Northwest averages about .64 male students grades 9-11 per square mile. I would say the distance each player would have to travel to and from practice more than makes up for having 5 or 7 more students eligible to participate. If not then history does. Not to mention the economical differences in community / parent clientele. Lastly northwest has several students living in their district playing at other schools such as valley and west. Good athletic smart students who could make a difference if they were playing for northwest. Also northwest has no players living in other districts playing for them. Northwest needs some time to try and build a program that at least keeps its students. But in all reality size wise belongs in soc 1 if oak hill does. Based on size alone burg and valley would be in SOC 1 and northwest and oak hill would both be in SOC 2. Is that what you want? Would you prefer green to play burg? The number of students doesn't always paint the whole picture. Sometimes you have to take into consideration other things. Not to mention if comparing athletic complexes northwest is much more similar to green than they are to oak hills million dollar stadium. The SOC is not perfect but it is what it is and Northwest needs to be in the small SOC. If the SOC were perfect they would pick up schools and make 3 divisions. That would be more fair to the small schools like green, notre dame, eastern, and symmes. Possibly pick up manchester or someone to give the small division enough. Allow the schools like east, northwest, and oak hill to compete each year and pick up someone like Piketon. And allow the big boys like minford, west, waverly, and burg to play schools that can give them a challenge and give them playoff points when they win like portsmouth, ironton, jackson, or Gallia academy. Northwest's history has helped to cause its current dilemma in an alternate universe maybe they are like burg. But if the SOC doesn't help them out now they are either going to lose football or leave the conference. Getting destroyed the last 5 games of the season can only go on so long. Id say 50 years is enough. Kids aren't determined to play sports like they were 20 years ago. Numbers are down almost everywhere except places like burg and oak hill where winning is an every year thing. Northwest couldn't take many more SOC 2 seasons and survive right now. In northwest's best years playing SOC 2 schools having a bad season they are still lucky to even compete. Last year Northwest was 7-3 but minford still destoyed them something like 60-0 and minford was near last in soc 2 if not last.

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Post by Carter » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:00 pm

Excellent Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Mailman » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:07 pm

SEOPlegend wrote:Hmmm I dont know, this might be closer than what people imagine.
You're right, it was closer than I thought. I didn't think Green would score.

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Re: Oak Hill 60 Green 6

Post by one Oak » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:38 pm

[quote]Oak hill and burg average about 10 male high school students grades 9-11 per square mile. Northwest averages about .64 male students grades 9-11 per square mile.[quote]

The Oak Hill district is 161 square miles. Wheelersburg is 16 square miles. If Oak Hill had 10 male students per square mile there would be over 1600 male students in the school.

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Re: WK10 Oak Hill (4-5) @ Green (3-6)

Post by BiddyBallDaddy » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:58 pm

sportsfanscioto wrote:
Jason Vorhees wrote:No, Oak Hill has 150 boys in the high school, while Green probably has half as many. It's still not as large a disparity as Northwest and Green.
Northwest, based on last years numbers since this years aren't official, only has 5 more boys than oak hill and 7 more than burg. This years numbers will show northwest is down a couple more students from last year. Northwest isn't as large of a school based on number of students as it was back in the 90's. However it is still as large based on square milieage. Oak hill and burg average about 10 male high school students grades 9-11 per square mile. Northwest averages about .64 male students grades 9-11 per square mile. I would say the distance each player would have to travel to and from practice more than makes up for having 5 or 7 more students eligible to participate. If not then history does. Not to mention the economical differences in community / parent clientele. Lastly northwest has several students living in their district playing at other schools such as valley and west. Good athletic smart students who could make a difference if they were playing for northwest. Also northwest has no players living in other districts playing for them. Northwest needs some time to try and build a program that at least keeps its students. But in all reality size wise belongs in soc 1 if oak hill does. Based on size alone burg and valley would be in SOC 1 and northwest and oak hill would both be in SOC 2. Is that what you want? Would you prefer green to play burg? The number of students doesn't always paint the whole picture. Sometimes you have to take into consideration other things. Not to mention if comparing athletic complexes northwest is much more similar to green than they are to oak hills million dollar stadium. The SOC is not perfect but it is what it is and Northwest needs to be in the small SOC. If the SOC were perfect they would pick up schools and make 3 divisions. That would be more fair to the small schools like green, notre dame, eastern, and symmes. Possibly pick up manchester or someone to give the small division enough. Allow the schools like east, northwest, and oak hill to compete each year and pick up someone like Piketon. And allow the big boys like minford, west, waverly, and burg to play schools that can give them a challenge and give them playoff points when they win like portsmouth, ironton, jackson, or Gallia academy. Northwest's history has helped to cause its current dilemma in an alternate universe maybe they are like burg. But if the SOC doesn't help them out now they are either going to lose football or leave the conference. Getting destroyed the last 5 games of the season can only go on so long. Id say 50 years is enough. Kids aren't determined to play sports like they were 20 years ago. Numbers are down almost everywhere except places like burg and oak hill where winning is an every year thing. Northwest couldn't take many more SOC 2 seasons and survive right now. In northwest's best years playing SOC 2 schools having a bad season they are still lucky to even compete. Last year Northwest was 7-3 but minford still destoyed them something like 60-0 and minford was near last in soc 2 if not last.
Do your fingers hurt after typing that long sad story?

Notre Dame has 35 boys in their entire school and manage to field a team year end and year out, and have been successful. If you are going by wins and losses for Northwest, we might as well make a 4th division for them to compete in by theirselves if they have a hard time beating schools with 1/10th as many boys.

Comparing athletic complexes to Green? Are you kidding me? How many times have they F'd up the football field now? They prolly could have turf by now. Northwest has a whole has complexes 5x that of Green.

You put NW back in a division with Valley, East, Oak Hill, they may never win another game.

In all honesty, losing football wouldn't be the worst thing to happen at NW. I really compare them to South Webster. SW has almost 40 guys dressed for soccer, and no football at all, and I don't hear many complaints. Northwest soccer has had success with a great coach in Keeney. It just takes a good coach and the TERRIBLE school board to stay out of things, and some success will return.

SOC can't do Northwest enough favors to keep them from losing. Northwest and Burg are polar opposites in competition. Wheelersburg has great feeder systems and kids want to be a part of winning. Northwest just wants to win but doesn't want to hire coaches and let them work to get better. When a coach loses, he is canned and the next guy comes in.

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Re: WK10 Oak Hill (4-5) @ Green (3-6)

Post by bfry » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:26 am

BiddyBallDaddy wrote:
sportsfanscioto wrote:
Jason Vorhees wrote:No, Oak Hill has 150 boys in the high school, while Green probably has half as many. It's still not as large a disparity as Northwest and Green.
Northwest, based on last years numbers since this years aren't official, only has 5 more boys than oak hill and 7 more than burg. This years numbers will show northwest is down a couple more students from last year. Northwest isn't as large of a school based on number of students as it was back in the 90's. However it is still as large based on square milieage. Oak hill and burg average about 10 male high school students grades 9-11 per square mile. Northwest averages about .64 male students grades 9-11 per square mile. I would say the distance each player would have to travel to and from practice more than makes up for having 5 or 7 more students eligible to participate. If not then history does. Not to mention the economical differences in community / parent clientele. Lastly northwest has several students living in their district playing at other schools such as valley and west. Good athletic smart students who could make a difference if they were playing for northwest. Also northwest has no players living in other districts playing for them. Northwest needs some time to try and build a program that at least keeps its students. But in all reality size wise belongs in soc 1 if oak hill does. Based on size alone burg and valley would be in SOC 1 and northwest and oak hill would both be in SOC 2. Is that what you want? Would you prefer green to play burg? The number of students doesn't always paint the whole picture. Sometimes you have to take into consideration other things. Not to mention if comparing athletic complexes northwest is much more similar to green than they are to oak hills million dollar stadium. The SOC is not perfect but it is what it is and Northwest needs to be in the small SOC. If the SOC were perfect they would pick up schools and make 3 divisions. That would be more fair to the small schools like green, notre dame, eastern, and symmes. Possibly pick up manchester or someone to give the small division enough. Allow the schools like east, northwest, and oak hill to compete each year and pick up someone like Piketon. And allow the big boys like minford, west, waverly, and burg to play schools that can give them a challenge and give them playoff points when they win like portsmouth, ironton, jackson, or Gallia academy. Northwest's history has helped to cause its current dilemma in an alternate universe maybe they are like burg. But if the SOC doesn't help them out now they are either going to lose football or leave the conference. Getting destroyed the last 5 games of the season can only go on so long. Id say 50 years is enough. Kids aren't determined to play sports like they were 20 years ago. Numbers are down almost everywhere except places like burg and oak hill where winning is an every year thing. Northwest couldn't take many more SOC 2 seasons and survive right now. In northwest's best years playing SOC 2 schools having a bad season they are still lucky to even compete. Last year Northwest was 7-3 but minford still destoyed them something like 60-0 and minford was near last in soc 2 if not last.
Do your fingers hurt after typing that long sad story?

Notre Dame has 35 boys in their entire school and manage to field a team year end and year out, and have been successful. If you are going by wins and losses for Northwest, we might as well make a 4th division for them to compete in by theirselves if they have a hard time beating schools with 1/10th as many boys.

Comparing athletic complexes to Green? Are you kidding me? How many times have they F'd up the football field now? They prolly could have turf by now. Northwest has a whole has complexes 5x that of Green.

You put NW back in a division with Valley, East, Oak Hill, they may never win another game.

In all honesty, losing football wouldn't be the worst thing to happen at NW. I really compare them to South Webster. SW has almost 40 guys dressed for soccer, and no football at all, and I don't hear many complaints. Northwest soccer has had success with a great coach in Keeney. It just takes a good coach and the TERRIBLE school board to stay out of things, and some success will return.

SOC can't do Northwest enough favors to keep them from losing. Northwest and Burg are polar opposites in competition. Wheelersburg has great feeder systems and kids want to be a part of winning. Northwest just wants to win but doesn't want to hire coaches and let them work to get better. When a coach loses, he is canned and the next guy comes in.

Can't think of 1 single football coach that has been fired at Northwest. Not 1.

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Re: Oak Hill 60 Green 6

Post by BiddyBallDaddy » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:23 pm

Not sure if you are being serious or not. I'll treat it as if so...

Do you think they just woke up one morning and had to hire a new coach?

Montavon is the new coach this year.
Last year was a 1 year guy
Andy Hall...

The list keeps going on and on.

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Post by bfry » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:29 pm

BiddyBallDaddy wrote:Not sure if you are being serious or not. I'll treat it as if so...

Do you think they just woke up one morning and had to hire a new coach?

Montavon is the new coach this year.
Last year was a 1 year guy
Andy Hall...

The list keeps going on and on.
Wow. Are you serious? You are out in left field looking for the hockey puck on this one friend. I don't even know where to start.

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Post by BiddyBallDaddy » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:56 pm

bfry wrote:
BiddyBallDaddy wrote:Not sure if you are being serious or not. I'll treat it as if so...

Do you think they just woke up one morning and had to hire a new coach?

Montavon is the new coach this year.
Last year was a 1 year guy
Andy Hall...

The list keeps going on and on.
Wow. Are you serious? You are out in left field looking for the hockey puck on this one friend. I don't even know where to start.
So where did all their coaches go? They didn't take the job to wait on the "next one"

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Re: Oak Hill 60 Green 6

Post by AllAboutTheU » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:18 am

Andy Hall was never at Northwest. His father Larry Hall coached at NW for more than 1 year.

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Post by BiddyBallDaddy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:10 pm

AllAboutTheU wrote:Andy Hall was never at Northwest. His father Larry Hall coached at NW for more than 1 year.

Sorry about the name mix-up. I meant to say Larry Hall... So how long was Larry there? Couldn't have been more than 2 years. Northwest goes through coaches like the changing of the wind.

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Post by bfry » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:52 pm

Larry was there 3 years. "The last guy" was there 6.

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Re: Oak Hill 60 Green 6

Post by ColdHardTruth » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:18 am

North West just tries to justify why they are in the wrong spot. Instead of saying "yah, we got a bunch of kids that dont want to play football anymore" they want to just make excuses as to why they need to play down a level.

Give a small school like Green props. They dont get "discarded players" from other schools like East and they dont have the lure of being a private school like ND but yet they still field a squad every year.

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Post by AllAboutTheU » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:39 am

What does is that supposed to mean? East can't help it other kids want to go there and ND is waaaaayyyy different from your typical private school. ND struggled to field a team this year and to finish 7-3 with rarely any big injuries I think is pretty good. Yes give Green props but to drag ND and East into this situation is not fair.

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Re: Oak Hill 60 Green 6

Post by ColdHardTruth » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:59 pm

East can't help it kids want to go there??
They are keeping their doors open by taking in problem children. They are lucky that translates into good tough football players and basketball players. But are jokes at every other sport outside this class.

I respect ND. They play tough with very few players. My main point is it's not fair to these schools to be put up against the much larger schools.

The REAL truth is the SOC 1 is more competitive than we realize. Even Green has games of 60+ points and shutouts against non SOC schools that were the same size.

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