Competitive Balance

[93Bulldog]

None what so ever.

[formerfcfan]

It actually does, despite the fact that's counter to your belief that results must be proportional to representation.

[1987chieftains]

in this years final four
DI PICKERINGTON HS CENTRAL, CLEV. ST. IGNATIUS, CIN. ST. XAVIER, OLENTANGY LIBERTY
DII PERRY, HUDSON, WAYNE, CIN. LA SALLE
DIII TOL CENTRAL CATHOLIC , TROTWOOD-MADISON, COLS. ST. FRANCIS DeSALES, AKR. ARCHBISHOP HOBAN
DIV KETTERING ACHBSHP. ALTER , COLS. BISHOP HARTLEY, STEUBENVILLE, PERRY
DV MILAN EDISON, CANTON CENTRAL CATH, COLDWATER, COSHOCTON
DVI CUYAHOGA HEIGHTS, NEWARK CATHOLIC, HAMLER PATRICK HENRY, MARION LOCAL
DVII MINSTER, McCOMB, HARVEST PREP, WARREN JOHN F KENNEDY

12/28 teams are private. and of those private schools most could beat any team in the state in any given year regardless of division.

[Stone Cold]

Actually it doesn't. You are comparing the disproportion of races in a sport to the disproportion of high school championships won in a state. The factors that cause both disproportions are completely different.

Why do 1/6 of the schools in Ohio win nearly 1/2 of the state championships?

[gamewatcher]

Do Private schools recruit......of course they do. Fact is, they have to recruit for EVERY STUDENT that walks through their doors, athlete or not. They have to convince people to not only pay property taxes that fund the local public schools, but to also be willing to shell out tuition money for the private school as well.

What these private schools have learned is that there is a ton of free advertising to be had by having their school's name splashed across the newspapers every week for their teams athletic successes. Make no mistake, they promote their academics as well, but it's often the athletic teams that give that name recognition to families with kids entering H.S. - all that free publicity is a door opener.

For many of these private schools, their lifeblood (new paying customers) is continued name recognition - without it their numbers dry up. It is important for these schools to achieve in athletics. Often times, those that run the local publics really don't care a whole lot about athletics.....they have leaned toward the academic side all of their lives.

Often times - how important it is to those running the place has a huge bearing on how successful whatever program it is that they care most about.....

[formerfcfan]

Actually it doesn't. You are comparing the disproportion of races in a sport to the disproportion of high school championships won in a state. The factors that cause both disproportions are completely different.

Sure, I understand your point there.

Why do 1/6 of the schools in Ohio win nearly 1/2 of the state championships?

Since 2006, all of the Big 10 football titles have been won by four schools: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

Why do (>)1/4 of the schools win 1/1 of the Big 10 titles? Does the Big 10 need competitive balance so schools like Indiana and N'Western
have a shot?

[Orange and Brown]

Actually it doesn't. You are comparing the disproportion of races in a sport to the disproportion of high school championships won in a state. The factors that cause both disproportions are completely different.

Sure, I understand your point there.

Why do 1/6 of the schools in Ohio win nearly 1/2 of the state championships?

Since 2006, all of the Big 10 football titles have been won by four schools: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

Why do (>)1/4 of the schools win 1/1 of the Big 10 titles? Does the Big 10 need competitive balance so schools like Indiana and N'Western
have a shot?

So now you are going to compare college football with high school football???
Seriously????
Two completely different animals......

[93Bulldog]

The college comparison makes no sense either. They can all recruit. You basically have 14 private schools in the Big Ten if you were even about to try and compare, which you can't.

[bman]

Actually it doesn't. You are comparing the disproportion of races in a sport to the disproportion of high school championships won in a state. The factors that cause both disproportions are completely different.

Sure, I understand your point there.

Why do 1/6 of the schools in Ohio win nearly 1/2 of the state championships?

Since 2006, all of the Big 10 football titles have been won by four schools: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

Why do (>)1/4 of the schools win 1/1 of the Big 10 titles? Does the Big 10 need competitive balance so schools like Indiana and N'Western
have a shot?

The Big 10 already has competitive balance, it's called equal distribution of tv and bowl game money, no matter if you are Ohio State and Michigan or Rutgers and Indiana.

[bman]

in this years final four
DI PICKERINGTON HS CENTRAL, CLEV. ST. IGNATIUS, CIN. ST. XAVIER, OLENTANGY LIBERTY
DII PERRY, HUDSON, WAYNE, CIN. LA SALLE
DIII TOL CENTRAL CATHOLIC , TROTWOOD-MADISON, COLS. ST. FRANCIS DeSALES, AKR. ARCHBISHOP HOBAN
DIV KETTERING ACHBSHP. ALTER , COLS. BISHOP HARTLEY, STEUBENVILLE, PERRY
DV MILAN EDISON, CANTON CENTRAL CATH, COLDWATER, COSHOCTON
DVI CUYAHOGA HEIGHTS, NEWARK CATHOLIC, HAMLER PATRICK HENRY, MARION LOCAL
DVII MINSTER, McCOMB, HARVEST PREP, WARREN JOHN F KENNEDY

12/28 teams are private. and of those private schools most could beat any team in the state in any given year regardless of division.

Throw in the open enrollment publics, some of them selective open enrollment like the MAC schools, and it is pretty one-sided. Like I said there are other issues such as socioeconomic, coaching and others, but there is a competitive advantage when you can draw kids from a larger area and also pick and choose like some of these schools do.

[Raider6309]

Most on here hate Athens more than catholic schools. We should change it to Archbishop Athens or Athens Saint Vincent Saint Mary's. Those darn rich professor kids.

[formerfcfan]

Most on here hate Athens more than catholic schools. We should change it to Archbishop Athens or Athens Saint Vincent Saint Mary's. Those darn rich professor kids.

"Saint Mary's of The Plains"

[Raider6309]

Catholic schools are not what god wanted. Just rich people segregating their kids from poor people. Public schools take all of God's children

[1987chieftains]

in this years final four
DI PICKERINGTON HS CENTRAL, CLEV. ST. IGNATIUS, CIN. ST. XAVIER, OLENTANGY LIBERTY
DII PERRY, HUDSON, WAYNE, CIN. LA SALLE
DIII TOL CENTRAL CATHOLIC , TROTWOOD-MADISON, COLS. ST. FRANCIS DeSALES, AKR. ARCHBISHOP HOBAN
DIV KETTERING ACHBSHP. ALTER , COLS. BISHOP HARTLEY, STEUBENVILLE, PERRY
DV MILAN EDISON, CANTON CENTRAL CATH, COLDWATER, COSHOCTON
DVI CUYAHOGA HEIGHTS, NEWARK CATHOLIC, HAMLER PATRICK HENRY, MARION LOCAL
DVII MINSTER, McCOMB, HARVEST PREP, WARREN JOHN F KENNEDY

12/28 teams are private. and of those private schools most could beat any team in the state in any given year regardless of division.

Throw in the open enrollment publics, some of them selective open enrollment like the MAC schools, and it is pretty one-sided. Like I said there are other issues such as socioeconomic, coaching and others, but there is a competitive advantage when you can draw kids from a larger area and also pick and choose like some of these schools do.

you are also correct bman. larger cities have a bigger pool to draw from. and get more exposure to the media which in turn help johnny super star get recruited to a major DI. when johnny super star is really just as good as the jimmy from the country.

final 4 teams in large metropolitan areas or close to them.
DI PICKERINGTON HS CENTRAL, CLEV. ST. IGNATIUS, CIN. ST. XAVIER, OLENTANGY LIBERTY
DII PERRY, HUDSON, WAYNE, CIN. LA SALLE
DIII TOL CENTRAL CATHOLIC , TROTWOOD-MADISON, COLS. ST. FRANCIS DeSALES, AKR. ARCHBISHOP HOBAN
DIV KETTERING ACHBSHP. ALTER , COLS. BISHOP HARTLEY, STEUBENVILLE, PERRY
DV MILAN EDISON, CANTON CENTRAL CATH, COLDWATER, COSHOCTON
DVI CUYAHOGA HEIGHTS, NEWARK CATHOLIC, HAMLER PATRICK HENRY, MARION LOCAL
DVII MINSTER, McCOMB, HARVEST PREP, WARREN JOHN F KENNEDY

[93Bulldog]

Here we are crying over public and private when little ol Hickory had to beat the South Bend Central Bears to win their state title.

[formerfcfan]

Catholic schools are not what god wanted. Just rich people segregating their kids from poor people. Public schools take all of God's children

There used to be a time where Catholic schools were not exclusive on the basis of tuition, you know.

[TheFlyingDutchman]

Raider6309 , Your post is utter bull$hit
ISJ and PND both have plenty of non Catholics.
Living in Ironton and Portsmouth I doubt most families are far from rich

[Raider6309]

Raider6309 , Your post is utter bull$hit
ISJ and PND both have plenty of non Catholics.
Living in Ironton and Portsmouth I doubt most families are far from rich

Idc about little catholic schools, I'm talking about St Ignatius and Akron SVSM. St Ignatius gets 6 million dollars a year from alumni. This money is used for tuition

[formerfcfan]

Raider6309 , Your post is utter bull$hit
ISJ and PND both have plenty of non Catholics.
Living in Ironton and Portsmouth I doubt most families are far from rich

Idc about little catholic schools, I'm talking about St Ignatius and Akron SVSM. St Ignatius gets 6 million dollars a year from alumni. This money is used for tuition

Seeing as how most Catholic schools in OH are not like SVSM and Ignatius, perhaps you should refrain from generalizing Catholic schools.

[noreply66]

Catholic schools are not what god wanted. Just rich people segregating their kids from poor people. Public schools take all of God's children

I know a lot of Catholics and you are so wrong.