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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:
Catchup13 wrote:
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:river valley is much improved, but very far away in comparison to wheelersburg. and will be a pittance gatewise as to compared with the Trojans.
River Valley is much improved. But if you look at their schedule, they only played 3 teams with a winning record and got beat by them all (7-3). RV had 3 wins against teams with a combined record of 2-28. This series instead of Portsmouth vs Burg just doesn't feel right.
Maybe Trojans not winning in a decade or so is the reason, but how many times has Ports beat Ironton in that time, and then joined a league with them.

hey you're preaching to the choir man. I know all that.been going to tiger games for 56 years, so I know a lil bit about it myself. I want ironton to always have a series with Portsmouth n burg. teams just gotta get better overall down here, because nothing else makes any sense league wise. that goes for the ovc and soc. the trick is scheduling strong ooc. which ironton always has. but this year we lost all 3 of them. that didn't help any.
Sometimes teams need to schedule some teams that they actually have a chance to beat to pick up an extra win or 2. More wins will equal more kids out to play, then you can start to schedule the tougher teams out of conference.


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When you recruit an area's players, don't expect they will play you. Pretty common sense. That's why Cardinal Mooney is black balled in Youngstown. That has cost Cardinal Mooney a few state titles


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As a Trojan fan it is frustrating to have lost the edge to compete at a high level in football. This has not happened overnight. It has been an issue for some time now. We are losing good families to other school districts for different reasons. Few families are moving into the district..
The Burg game was one we always circled on the calendar. I was fortunate enough to have played in 1987, when the series came back after several years of inactivity. It was a game that would make or break a season. Portsmouth went on to win that game 19-15, and even though Burg went on to post a 9-1 record that year and a playoff appearance, the one loss to Portsmouth was not easy to accept.
Portsmouth does not and may not again have that edge to play at a high level. We have seen what Burg has been doing. They have been able to keep good families in the community as well as receive many other good kids through relocation, open enrollment, etc because of past and future academic and athletic success. At the same time, Portsmouth will struggle to find and develop a suitable QB for the 2017 season..
Burg posters can say what they want about the Portsmouth series. We don't really care. We will be fine without your gate as you will be without ours. The one thing I WILL miss is the chance for one team to upset and ruin the other team's season by taking a loss from a heated rival. At least that's the way it used to be.


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Raider6309 wrote:When you recruit an area's players, don't expect they will play you. Pretty common sense. That's why Cardinal Mooney is black balled in Youngstown. That has cost Cardinal Mooney a few state titles
must have been a hell of a recruitment , 2 years worth


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Moses is correct, the status is Portsmouth is not getting better, this is not a knock on the coaching staff at all, they do the best they can with what they have,its an internal problem within the city,I love the school system, but the crime, the constant breaking and entering, the drug problem on the streets, If I lived in my old town, I would be looking for a way out. I moved my child from Florida to Pa for this very reason, brought her away from the drugs and schools to a small County with awesome community.I do hate seeing Portsmouth dropping the Burg, it was huge when I was there, but folks that was 30 plus years ago.I understand why they dropped them....


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it sounds to me more now like Portsmouth has shot a cannon ball over the pirate ship saying you want our players then fine. do it without scheduling us. open enrollment is a funny thing and seldom pleases everybody. and we can be upset or happy. as long as the state allows it, it will continue in every district. some cats will gain weight, some will lose weight because of it. and more often than not the most successful teams of the past will get fatter as a result of the rule. I see now what people were saying about ironton for so long. and because of our success it happened. but I can tell you back when I was in school if you played for ironton it was because you were from ironton. it would appear to me Portsmouth is taking a stand over it. ========================= I havehowever saw a couple of posts saying they expect ironton to drop burg as well. I don't believe that for a minute. for several reasons. we are not adjoining districts so we are not affected by the open enrollment with them. and ironton appreciates playing the burg and it's athletic programs. nobody is anymore frustrated with recent results than the ironton community, and are hoping to right the ship. but I think anybody at ironton or a fan can tell you the last thing they want to do is stop playing burg.it makes no sense to drop good competition to drop a better program for a less successful one to try to garner a win in it's place. that helps nobody and does nothing to build a program. and I think that is exactly what Portsmouth posters are saying tat they are not happy with it either. trust me when I tell you the majority of Trojan faithful never, ever wanted to see this happen. but apparently it has. and in a lot of ways I can see Portsmouth's point about taking a stand this way. it's a mess that needs fixed somehow. I cannot knock it, I did the same thing with my own kids. when I lived at kitts hill there were like only 2 houses past me in the rock hill district then it became symmes valley. so I was at the extreme end of the rock hill district myself. it was nearly 17 miles from my house there to rock hills school complex. and 8 miles from to house to ironton's parking lot. so I did the same thing with my 2 sons when they were in junior high. it is going to happen in situations like this where homes are on the extreme borders of their school and in the back yard of another.


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Wheelersburg is just one game on the Trojans schedule.........and they are a D5 school, just like PHS. What if the Trojans go 9-1 with the only loss to Wheelersburg? Is that such a bad thing? A loss to Wheelersburg will not kill the Trojans trend upward to winning football, which started this past season. If PHS takes care of its business in the OVC, a conference that the Trojans can do well in, then a game with Wheelersburg will not be a death blow to Portsmouth football.

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To the Trojan faithful. The spin I would put on this is more wins sometimes equals possible playoff game. The possibility is not out of the realm that the Trojans could play Wheelersburg anyway. Think positive Trojans, the possibility of ruining someone's season is lurking on the horizon, hmmmmmm! Betcha hadn't thought about that scenario . Your welcome !


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I hate to see Portsmouth Go actually but oh well Good luck to the Trojans.


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Raider6309 wrote:When you recruit an area's players, don't expect they will play you. Pretty common sense. That's why Cardinal Mooney is black balled in Youngstown. That has cost Cardinal Mooney a few state titles
Hmm wonder why they have 4 local teams that still play them if there blackballed


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fbnut wrote: Hmm wonder why they have 4 local teams that still play them if there blackballed
Well 3 big schools. WGH, Boardman, and AF. Those are OCC size schools


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Like I said anyone that thinks this is over lowest,is STUIP!! Bottom line,the Trojans lose players every year Renner Andrew Randolph??? They did not drop burg over that kid??? Omg so some people are so lame


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And another thing as long as the Trojans sports has been so bad , do you think maybe the problem may be the AD? How long has he been around? I'm not sure but isn't that part of his job to put the right coaches in the right places?


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Noitall wrote:And another thing as long as the Trojans sports has been so bad , do you think maybe the problem may be the AD? How long has he been around? I'm not sure but isn't that part of his job to put the right coaches in the right places?
The school board actually hires and fires coaches. That's not part of the A.D's job at the high school level.


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Orange and Brown wrote:
Noitall wrote:And another thing as long as the Trojans sports has been so bad , do you think maybe the problem may be the AD? How long has he been around? I'm not sure but isn't that part of his job to put the right coaches in the right places?
The school board actually hires and fires coaches. That's not part of the A.D's job at the high school level.

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If PHS is butt hurt over losing to Burg , why is the Basketball team still playing each other. Didn't see Burg cancel series because PHS has beaten them lately.


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There is absolutely no upside for Portsmouth playing Burg.

1. Portsmouth is trying to rebuild their program
2. The SOC doesn't want Portsmouth in their league so why would they want to play SOC teams.
3. Losing to Burg on a consistent basis doesn't get you any computer points.
4. If you don't play them you don't have to put up with Burg's crowd.

There are plenty of good teams in the region willing to play Portsmouth.

Who wouldn't want to play in one of the nicest facilities in SE Ohio.

Let Burg continue to think they are better than everyone else and go find someone else to play. Maybe Coshocton has an opening next year that Burg can get.


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hbk1999 wrote:There is absolutely no upside for Portsmouth playing Burg.

1. Portsmouth is trying to rebuild their program
2. The SOC doesn't want Portsmouth in their league so why would they want to play SOC teams.
3. Losing to Burg on a consistent basis doesn't get you any computer points.
4. If you don't play them you don't have to put up with Burg's crowd.

There are plenty of good teams in the region willing to play Portsmouth.

Who wouldn't want to play in one of the nicest facilities in SE Ohio.

Let Burg continue to think they are better than everyone else and go find someone else to play. Maybe Coshocton has an opening next year that Burg can get.

1. Playing River Valley will really help rebuild tat program.

2. I bet P-town will still have Valley, Minford and maybe waverly on the schedule

3. That's a no brainer.

4. What an asanine statement right there. Burg would bring the biggest crowd of any other team on their schedule and that is a guarantee.


I don't remember when it was, I think it was in the 90's but that year good ol Curl waits until the summer to inform the Burg they wouldn't be playing Burg that season and left Burg with only 9 games and they didn't make the playoffs because of that one game. After that I would have never played P-town again but for some reason the series started back up and since 2007 this game has been a laugher.


I say good riddance and if I'm Burg I would never play them again, in any sport.


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There is absolutely no upside for Burg playing Portsmouth.

1. Burg has been trying to schedule the Cleveland Browns and they are only open week 3. This could now be a reality people.
2. Burg would much rather play more SOC I schools like Northwest, Symmes Valley and Notre Dame to keep it in the SOC family.
3. Not filling the week with an OHSAA sponsored program actually can help in computer points (just ask your local number Harbin Points master about divisors).
4. If you don't play them, you don't have to see your Alma Mater and where your kids used to go to school.

There are plenty of good teams in the FCS that may schedule Burg.

Who wouldn't want to lose against THE premier high school sports program in the state of Ohio?

Let Portsmouth continue to think they can rebuild their program by scheduling a team they can compete against instead of always shooting for 9-1. Actually, they are the ones missing out on the chance of stepping on the field with greatness. It's Portsmouth loss in the end if you take the time to think about it.


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yabbadabbadoo wrote:
hbk1999 wrote:There is absolutely no upside for Portsmouth playing Burg.

1. Portsmouth is trying to rebuild their program
2. The SOC doesn't want Portsmouth in their league so why would they want to play SOC teams.
3. Losing to Burg on a consistent basis doesn't get you any computer points.
4. If you don't play them you don't have to put up with Burg's crowd.

There are plenty of good teams in the region willing to play Portsmouth.

Who wouldn't want to play in one of the nicest facilities in SE Ohio.

Let Burg continue to think they are better than everyone else and go find someone else to play. Maybe Coshocton has an opening next year that Burg can get.

1. Playing River Valley will really help rebuild tat program.

2. I bet P-town will still have Valley, Minford and maybe waverly on the schedule

3. That's a no brainer.

4. What an asanine statement right there. Burg would bring the biggest crowd of any other team on their schedule and that is a guarantee.


I don't remember when it was, I think it was in the 90's but that year good ol Curl waits until the summer to inform the Burg they wouldn't be playing Burg that season and left Burg with only 9 games and they didn't make the playoffs because of that one game. After that I would have never played P-town again but for some reason the series started back up and since 2007 this game has been a laugher.


I say good riddance and if I'm Burg I would never play them again, in any sport.
1. Good thing you aren't an AD..school would be awful with that attitude of yours.
2. Won't play Minford or Waverly in the next few years lol, West and Valley would be the 2 teams from the soc.
Son of Sparta wrote:There is absolutely no upside for Burg playing Portsmouth.

1. Burg has been trying to schedule the Cleveland Browns and they are only open week 3. This could now be a reality people.
2. Burg would much rather play more SOC I schools like Northwest, Symmes Valley and Notre Dame to keep it in the SOC family.
3. Not filling the week with an OHSAA sponsored program actually can help in computer points (just ask your local number Harbin Points master about divisors).
4. If you don't play them, you don't have to see your Alma Mater and where your kids used to go to school.

There are plenty of good teams in the FCS that may schedule Burg.

Who wouldn't want to lose against THE premier high school sports program in the state of Ohio?

Let Portsmouth continue to think they can rebuild their program by scheduling a team they can compete against instead of always shooting for 9-1. Actually, they are the ones missing out on the chance of stepping on the field with greatness. It's Portsmouth loss in the end if you take the time to think about it.
Greatness huh? Didn't they just lose to Coshocton? Get off your high horse pal, Burg program is good yes, but greatness come on now. Greatness would be State Champions


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